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Post by martinjwills on Dec 17, 2013 16:03:52 GMT
People think that what we have today is the best we will ever have, and don't think of the future developments, so don't keep the raw footage etc. With the B&W T/Rs who would have thought in the 1970s and 1980s, that you would get colour information back out of them in the 2000s. I hope if film is recovered in a bad shape, and called unrecoverable at this time, it is kept, in conditions where it will degrade at the slowest rate, so if in 10 years, somebody comes up with a new way to recover the film, like the Chroma Dot recovery process, we wont have a case of we had it, but thought it was not worth keeping.
There should be a lot of off air copies of Farscape, as well as the DVDs produced at the time.
But you would have thought these days that the masters and location films would be stored for future technologies to use in the future. But TV companies never seem to learn from their mistakes.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 16, 2013 21:59:27 GMT
I think i would prefer the new series if it was 6 x 2 parts, if 12 episodes, or 5 x 2 parts, and 1 x three part if 13 episodes, in the run. Would give time for much more character development and other themes and fun in the stories. The Sarah Jane Adventures worked well as 2 part stories with a cliff hanger, although each part only 28 minutes. Nu Who has had some great 2 part stories in the earlier series, "Silence in the Library" and "Forest of the Dead" for example.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 16, 2013 14:58:06 GMT
On the other hand, I love The War Games and think that Pertwee's first season (with three seven parters) is one of the best ever! I just like good stories; the content / treatment decides if they're too long or short and number of episodes is not the key factor here (as this applies equally to four parters). I also think Pertwee's first season is one of the best seasons, although by inferno, being in nuclear generating stations or similar was getting boring being 3 stories in a row, Silurians, Ambassadors of death and inferno. They are all very good stories, Silurians especially. NuWho doesn't do the character development of the old longer stories, as most would be less than a two part adventure now, the running time of some recent series 7 episodes was only 41 or 42 minutes. It would be difficult to do a Sea Devils, Daemons etc in just 40 minutes running time without the titles and credits.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 12, 2013 21:52:07 GMT
we still havn't heard if anything turned up in the TV Centre clear out, things have turned up in ex BBC buildings before, or when they were being cleared, behind cabinets etc. It was cleared out before anyone could get to it. All the former staff went in and took "mementos", there wasn't so much as a door sign left by the end of it, well there was some stuff, the things security found on the would be thieves. I'm sure if that is the case the 16mm films will appear on auction sites sometime in the next two or three years.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 12, 2013 20:19:08 GMT
we still havn't heard if anything turned up in the TV Centre clear out, things have turned up in ex BBC buildings before, or when they were being cleared, behind cabinets etc.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 11, 2013 16:14:07 GMT
i think it looks more like alpha centauri from the pertwee era.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 10, 2013 11:51:42 GMT
It wasn't 3 tons of film cans anyway. The shipping container itself would account for most of that. I think you will find that the container is not included in that as most empty ones 40ft are 4 tons, a single decker bus empty is over 7 tons
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 6, 2013 21:18:03 GMT
Does anyone know the status of the wildlife series Bellamy's Europe BBC 1976, i cant seem to find any info on it, it was last shown on BBC1 in 1980 if i remember correctly so hopefully would have survived into the F&VT library.
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Post by martinjwills on Nov 25, 2013 20:03:01 GMT
What batch was Group F of Hartnells, the F could be reference to that as well.
Sierra Leone TV therefore bought GROUPs A to F of the William Hartnell stories
if Group F was T(Galaxy4) to Z(The Gunfighters) that would be 6 stories.
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Post by martinjwills on Nov 25, 2013 19:50:24 GMT
No I have no view on missing episodes either way, but one of my jobs is working with computer codes, so things like these numbers just stand out to me.
it may just be saying the current state of the Hartnell Archive, which would be correct with 45 missing. from 12 stories, with 6 completely missing.
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Post by martinjwills on Nov 25, 2013 19:36:31 GMT
Does anyone know what F6 0012/45 means? It's the label of the vault containing the cans. With all the references and homages flying around I was wondering if this was another hidden message. F (Found?) 6+0+0+1+2 = 9 / (Of) 45 maybe??? There are 44 Missing Hartnell episodes from 12 Stories, with 6 completely missing. interesting that 44 is nearly 45, and 12 & 6 appear in the F6 0012/45 label the 45th might be "Crisis, original version" or "The Urge to Live, original version" of Planet of Giants.
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Post by martinjwills on Oct 11, 2013 21:08:03 GMT
This was probably checked, but did Morris double check for Ice Warriors 2 syndrome? Perhaps Episode 3 is the Episode 1 can? I highly doubt Phil Morris would be silly enough NOT to check that, but I'm curious to know if this WAS checked. If it had been me i think i would have checked every can in the store very closely after finding the 11 others. So i am sure he would have done most things in hope of locating it or the other two stories that could have been there. We do not know if the sixth can was labelled as QQ Ep 3 or it had another label and had the programme correct for that label in the can. If that was the case i would have checked that pile of cans for that programme very closely too.
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Post by martinjwills on Oct 11, 2013 13:55:15 GMT
It's a good point - and a hypothetical query nonetheless - how would the BBC handle a release of say 40 missing episodes at once? Probably not release them all at once, obviously. I doubt whoever would be handling the restoration of the hypothetical recoveries could handle more than two or three projects at once. I'd imagine that the most complete and least difficult to restore serials would get first priority, as they'd be able to be released for DVD/iTunes sooner. The more complete but more damaged serials would probably be second priority, and the least complete and most damaged serials being put on the backburner. I work with paper linen bus blinds, and some come back in bad condition eg early 1900s, but are the only surviving and bits are falling off every time you touch them Before they go back to the transport museum. I would try and recover what is left of any bad ones, before they are lost forever by deteriation, along with the better ones they can sell quickly. So I hope they would try their best at any important damaged episodes as a priority as well
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Post by martinjwills on Oct 11, 2013 12:48:47 GMT
Perhaps the BBC had lined up a nice surprise for that evening, and had put Logical PADDING into the advanced TV Schedules, like they had done with the New Doctor event earlier this year, and the leaks, changed that plan somewhat. Now the cat is out of the bag as to say they have changed this listing again.
I can imagine what would have happened if they said before the start, this is not the episode listed in some TV listings, but has been replaced with an alternative episode.
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Post by martinjwills on Oct 11, 2013 10:55:35 GMT
Great find, thanks to all who played their part.
From the batch of episodes found, it could have been mixed up in the store, and put back with another pile of films, or it is with the other two stories they had from the same batch of 24 episodes in another location or store. [The Abominable Snowmen [NN] & The Wheel in Space [SS]]. Or gone walkies. I am sure all 12 would have gone if that was the case.
Sods law again that the one we have in the archive is the one that was not the missing from the batch.
After the last 2 turned up, we were talking on here about the value of N [The number of missing still existing and waiting to be found] we know now it was at least N= 9 at that time, and the other 10 [The Web of Fear 3,The Abominable Snowmen 1&3-6,The Wheel in Space 1&2 4&5] from the batch of 24 are more likely to still exist after 40 years than many thought.
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