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Post by John W King on Sept 11, 2016 20:23:47 GMT
I think MaxB is on the same wavelength as me. Power ticked a lot of boxes to be animated. And as you say, the big problem with animating any Troughton story is dear old Patrick himself. He was a truly great but underrated actor. He could say so much with subtle facial expressions and body movements. My recollection of his early stories was that he appeared to almost be overacting at times. As he matured into the role his performance changed. This is why any animations are most welcome but the actual broadcast episodes tell the true story. I sincerely hope more animations follow. But it won't be Savages, Highlanders or Fury.
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Post by John W King on Sept 9, 2016 20:52:35 GMT
Please, please please understand I am not trying to be rude or insulting to anyone but when I opened this thread I was trying to say that any further animations have to be commercially viable. I was trying to say that Power was animated because of it's importance to the Who story as a whole. It is/was a significant gap in telling a complete story. No other story how good, loved, demanded, recommended , wished for fills that position. Yes, other stories have companions arrive or leave but in the great scheme of things, in the real, hard world of big business that would probably cut little ice. The best we can hope for is an animation of Evil simply because it contains Daleks. Like everyone I would love to see every last episode returned or animated but I am not optimistic. I honestly can't see any of the historicals making it. I sincerely hope I'm proved wrong. I really hate sounding negative but, if you remember, we only got Underwater by the skin of our teeth. on a more positive note:- Perhaps BBC could allow some of the brilliant fan reconstructions could be allowed formal release. Or ........ following the recent Lost Sitcom season we could ask for a Lost Drama season........? Keep searching. Keep hoping.
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Post by John W King on Sept 8, 2016 22:35:52 GMT
So the upcoming Power animation is coming and looking like it will be a commercial success. So what next? Animations of Evil? Masterplan? Possible but in truth unlikely. Power had strong reasons to exist in some visual form because:- 1.the first regeneration 2. A Dalek story 3. It plugs a hole in the continuing Story of Doctor Who. It is unique for those reasons. Now it will be possible to make programmes telling a "full" story of the programme. So what next? What other missing stories make them vital to the story? Sadly none. Marco would complete series 1 but in hard commercial reality that probably won't be enough. Evil is an exciting Dalek story that temporarily marked an end to the metallic monsters. This may be a possibility. Masterplan is another Dalek story but at 12 + 1 episodes would be a huge challenge. Above and beyond that I would not be overly optimistic. But then the world of Doctor Who is a strange old thing. I personally expect the unexpected and just keep wishing...
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Post by John W King on Sept 8, 2016 22:12:00 GMT
Hip hip hooray! After 50 years I can see a version of Power. Recently on another thread on this forum I shared my memories of watching Power episode. 1 in 1966 - the shock. The confusion. The sadness - I cried (I was 12). The reaction when I watch the animation is bound to be much, much less. It's a funny old world. I am now 62 and through out my life I've wished for many things to come true. A lot of failures. But a surprising number of successes. A recent example. I used to collect and still have TV Comic with it's Dr Who comic strip. I missed only a few issues especially issue 1 of Troughton's Invasion of the Quarks. A month ago I found it on the Internet. On another thread on this forum a few days ago I was wishing the Animation rumour was true. I say no more. Wishes do sometimes comes true. Now what shall I wish for next... ....
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Post by John W King on Sept 6, 2016 17:04:43 GMT
If this animation story does prove to be true it would indicate that BBC have fairly strong evidence that no episodes of Power of the Daleks have been found. Or that they have definitely been found but a currently unrecoverable. Or that... Who knows. I wish I did. I wish we all knew. As a side comment - In the latest issue of the Radio Times Rob Howard talks about his latest film about Beatlemania. He relates how following a world wide search he found "new films of the Beatles. Gives you hope don't it?
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Post by John W King on Sept 2, 2016 20:43:35 GMT
The discussion between Alf and Mike about Alf's Jewishness I recall as being in a black and white episode although there may have been a similar chat in colour. The very nature of the series was arguments were repeated in different episodes - a reflection of real life.
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Post by John W King on Sept 2, 2016 16:43:42 GMT
You can have my brain. I also have good memories of Marco Polo (except 500 eyes),Mission to the Unknown, Evil of the Daleks and many other missing stories/episodes. All I'd want them to do is either find Daleks Masterplan 12 (which I've never seen), Power to the Daleks (which we'd ALL like to see) and a few others. All I'd want from the BBC is to use my memories to remake lost episodes. After all, they've recently remade and are showing remakes of some lost sitcom episodes. Not too much to ask is....?
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Post by John W King on Aug 27, 2016 15:12:58 GMT
Well it's 16.10 and it is now tomorrow (27 August). So what we're you hoping to predict?
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Post by John W King on Aug 7, 2016 22:12:33 GMT
Thank you for your kind words Tom. Oh, Andy - I do have a sense of humour. Hence my laughter at the beginning of my last post. I can also I can be a windup merchant... But seriously, we forget how different the '60s were. It wasn't just the cost that caused me to wipe recordings and the BBC was the same. There just wasn't enough magnetic tape. Several times I had to wait for fresh stocks of tape to come in. Open reel tape had a limited market and sometimes it came from the USA. That, in the 60s could take several weeks. The BBC were constantly making recordings. Video recording was still a new technology even in the late 60s. Most early programmes went out live so we have to be grateful Dr Who was recorded. That gives us some chance of recovering some of the 96 episodes.
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Post by John W King on Aug 7, 2016 9:26:59 GMT
Hahaha haha! It's really not about forgiveness. What on earth have I got to be forgiven about and who on earth are YOU to offer forgiveness? I only binned tapes of still existing material. The 60s Who soundtracks I wiped are now on cd. I was merely trying to highlight the reality of trying to keep a collection on a minimal wage and limited space. And the BBC were faced with a similar problem in the 60s.Your infantile comment offering ME forgiveness is what lowers the level of comment on this site. At least I have actually seen all bar a few of the missing 96. I try to share my memories on this site. Will I need forgiveness, if, God forbid, dementia wipes my memories?
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Post by John W King on Aug 6, 2016 19:27:16 GMT
I disagree. Only with hindsight was it a bad desciscion. I began recording the soundtrack of tv programmes on open reel tape in 1965. My recordings were direct line via a phono socket attached to the tv. The first Who episode I recorded was The Savages part 4. I recorded many Patrick Troughton episodes. Alas due the high expense of tape I had to wipe these tapes so they no longer exist. The only story I archived was the War Games. Then in 1980 I got a Video 2000 philips recorder. Quite quickly the format disappeared and I had to select what programmes I transferred to VHS.. Of the V2000 transfers the only ones in my archive are the Five Faces of Dr Who and most of the BSB Who weekend. VHS has gone so I've had to do more transfers to DVD. All my V2000 tapes and the majority of transferred have ended up in local tips. Why? I cannot afford the space to keep them. Nor, if I am honest, do I have the time to watch them. So in the 1960s you can imagine the dilemma the BBC faced. The only individual in the world that we know of who had them money and facilities to record TV programmes and stores them was dear old Bob Monkhouse. The great shame is he didn't record Doctor Who. So, no I don't blame the BBC and nor should anyone else. ......the only destroyed huge chunks of Dr Who forever........but then, if they hadn't this web site wouldn't exist!
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Post by John W King on Aug 2, 2016 22:40:55 GMT
First, please read nothing into posting. It is purely me speculating. Most of us want all 96 missing Dr. Who episodes to be found and restored. But what would happen if this did happen and all the episodes had been recovered at approximately the same time? (As per the omni rumour) Stage 1. All episodes recovered and taken to a central location Stage 2. Restoration work begins. 96 episodes could take a long, long time to restore. Descision 1. Is an announcement made when all 96 episodes have been restored or part of the way through the restoration? Descision 2. Will the restored episodes be made available to the public and if so in what format? I think most of us would prefer DVD for consitency. Stage 3. Release to public begins. NOTE:- The missing episodes fall into 2 groups a) Missing stories (9) b) Stories completed with missing episodes. (17 stories) Assuming Dalek Masterplan is divided into 2 parts that would make 26 stories to be released. (26 DVDs) NOTE:- At a cost of £15 + per DVD. That's at least £380 to shell out......! Descision 3. What order to release the stories and at what rate? It would make finacial sense to alernate releasing a) Missing stories with b) Stories completed and at a rate of 1per month. That would take just over 2 years to release everything. It would be better to release the least popular tales first and hold back the great classics. Stage 4. Releases begin. 1. Tenth Planet (for publicity) 2. The Smugglers 3, Space Pirates 4. Myth Makers 5. Underwater Menace 6. The Massacre 7. Invasion 8. The Highlanders 9. Web of Fear 10. The Savages 11. The Faceless Ones 12. The Crusaders 13. The Moonbase 14. Land of Fear 15. Ice Warriors 16. Galaxy 4 17. Abominable Snowmen 18. Celestial Toyroom 19. Wheel in Space 20. Marco Polo 21. Macra Terror 22. Fury from the Deep 23. Dalek Master Plan (1) 24.Dalek Masterplan (2) 25. Evil of the Daleks 26. Power of the Daleks. Stage 5. Release of the Complete Story of Doctor Who - a 14 DVD set with clips from each story, 1 disc for each Doctor. Stage 6. Colourisation of all B & W episodes begins..... This is meant as a bit of fun or guidance for anybody who might be lucky enough to recover a large number of episodes. And NO! I know absulutely NOTHING! But it makes you think how much it might cost YOU to get all those episodes and how long it may take once releases begin.
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Post by John W King on Aug 1, 2016 12:16:33 GMT
What a brilliant posting - from the author's mouth. Good luck with the book.It sounds fascinating.
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Post by John W King on Jul 30, 2016 20:48:28 GMT
I agree with John Green. Much as I want all 96 who episodes to be found I personally would also like to see recovered:- Triton, The Big Pull, The Monsters and missing episodes from:- Adam Adamant, Doomwatch, The Long Way Home, and many others. I expect any announcement would mention probably Doctor Who, May be Adam Adamant but unlikely the rest. And as I've said before ANY announcement is in many ways pointless unless it includes some indication of in what format anything recovered might be made available to the public. Underwater Menace... at least we did finally get a DVD.
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Post by John W King on Jul 26, 2016 19:52:10 GMT
Oh please be true but the pessimist in me says if and only if there is to a statement at any time nothing at all is obvious. It could also say, sorry folks there is no more Who. The cupboard is bare and we no cos we have looked in every last one. Even if there are more episodes when would we see them? Is anyone left to put them on DVD? At 62 my life is not getting any longer. Sorry to be a party pooper
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