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Post by Darren Jones on Sept 28, 2015 23:57:50 GMT
Everyone, As you know, I don't usually comment publicly about Phil's search. It's his story to tell, but I'm glad he has thought this the right time to tell this part of it. I'll confirm a few things and I'm sure Phil won't mind. When I first examined 'The Web of Fear' films there were only five cans, but Phil was hopeful of securing the missing can. At the time, I didn't know the reasons why it never came back with the others, but as time went on it got more frustrating for Phil, not unreasonably as he was still trying to secure the film as late as a few months ago. I suspect the reason he is happy to talk about it now is that he has exhausted all avenues with the station involved. Phil never referred to the cans he had arranged to be sent back as 'missing episodes' to the people over there, but it was that precise phrasing the guy in the station used in an answer to Phil when he said he 'didn't know anything about these missing episodes'. Why would you say that unless you did in fact know only too well. My own theory is that the guy took a film off the pile so he could do a bit of research precisely because someone showed an interest in these old films. He picked any old film at random. It might just as well have been Web 1 or Enemy 3. Once he'd done his research, realised what he'd got, he snaffled it away and denied all knowledge of it when further enquiries were made as to its fate. My personal belief is that the film isn't in the hands of a private collector, but still hidden, or possibly destroyed to protect the person who took it. No evidence, no crime. Whatever happened, I don't think we'll be seeing it anytime soon. At the beginning of all of this, before Phil tracked the films down I told him that if he found anything, he'd be putting the films in danger. When something lies undisturbed for 40 or so years, it's safe. As soon as you change its circumstances, you change its fate. What happened to Web 3 is the perfect example of that fact. This situation is why I stopped updating the Africa Progress thread. Paul Well said.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jul 17, 2015 18:39:40 GMT
I suppose it would depend on how the BBC would define commercial. If it was more commercial then the newer 'bigger' series would probably get more of a 'push' to make money and the lesser selling DVDs / Blu-Rays would, most likely, get phased out. If it was less commercial, then would Doctor Who be classed as too popular and that money would need to be spent elsewhere in order to release a (hypothetical) 1972 documentary series on Welsh cheese making complete with assorted extras?
Either way, I think we, as Doctor Who fans, could / would lose out. (Just look at the way the BBC released TEotW and WoF as examples.)
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Post by Darren Jones on Dec 26, 2014 0:50:44 GMT
Personally, I would like any episode back from a story that is yet unrepresented in the archives; be it Hartnell or Troughton. If I had to choose: either an episode from 'Marco Polo' or 'The Massacre' for Hartnell; 'The Power of the Daleks' or 'Fury from the Deep' for Troughton.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jul 31, 2014 21:14:07 GMT
The Mind Robber for me. Wonderfully surreal first episode followed by a witty four-part story. I sometimes wish more of Doctor Who had been so 'experimental.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jul 22, 2014 21:47:02 GMT
I can remember buying (and still own - just about playable!) the 'movie' versions of 'Revenge of the Cybermen', 'Death to the Daleks', 'Day of the Daleks', 'The Seeds of Death', 'Robots of Death' and 'The Time Warrior' (Probably in that order!). As well as the first (expensive) release of 'The Five Doctors'. If I also had a rummage around my parents' attic I could probably unearth one-or-two home recorded VHS tapes of selected Doctor Who stories from the 80's from back when I was given a choice - pocket money or a tape to record Doctor Who (choices, choices?)! P.S. With all the talk of VHS, Betamax, V2000 and Laserdisk; some of you may find this site interesting The Virtual Museum of Vintage VCRs.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jul 5, 2014 15:04:50 GMT
Enemy of the World. Now made even better with moving pictures!
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Post by Darren Jones on Jun 17, 2014 23:41:41 GMT
That's kind of you,Darren.I'm actually more worried about coming across as holier-than-thou! I very much respect people who can think coolly as you've done,and actually questioned their own initial reaction.I've probably put that badly. I do prefer anonymised,generalised statements about lifestyles.We're never going to reduce deaths through smoking etc. unless we do look at the evidence of mortality rates,but I'm bothered when it's a named grand-dad or mum who's said to have caused his or her own death because of their behavior.This isn't to say that these same individuals weren't often self-critical of the amount they smoked,etc. You did not come across as 'holier-than-thou!' and I thank you for your comment. You did not put your last statement badly; in fact, it was quite erudite. I also know what you are saying; death is always easier when it's from afar (gathering statistics etc.). But once you get to named territory, it becomes more personal and difficult to separate the 'actor' from the 'person' (or just people who were alive and who you interacted with).
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Post by Darren Jones on Jun 17, 2014 22:06:35 GMT
No need to make light of those we have lost and how they left us. Honestly no offence meant Darren,but we are seeing lists of men and women with their causes of death here,together with attempts to draw,at times moral/health lessons from their demise.I know that all the information is online,but it so easily leads to "Who's left/who's next" threads.Within days of Elizabeth Sladen dying,one or two were posting on Youtube and elsewhere that they believed that she smoked. These people have left behind friends and family.True they might have hastened their deaths by smoking,eating high-calorie foods,but I'm not very happy with discussions of this sort. No offence taken now that you've explained what you meant. I can see where you are coming from with the 'effect = cause' and making 2+2=734327! The fact that the people are famous means we try to make patterns when none are there and try to correlate similar instances. If they hadn't been famous then no one would've bothered. It was a different time though, with different standards, where smoking was accepted (I'm a smoker myself btw) inside and 'bad for you' foods was the norm. So people were more likely to (through lack of knowledge and/or ignorance) expose themselves to things that could harm them later in life. (Having said that, as a smoker myself, I'm not exactly one to preach about healthy living and making the right/wrong choices!) P.S. If I caused you offence then I apologise profusely John.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jun 17, 2014 21:12:10 GMT
The worrying thing is that there are probably similar lists of Big Players who suffer from piles. No need to make light of those we have lost and how they left us.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jun 17, 2014 15:22:01 GMT
Sad list, many taken before their time. But, IIRC, Douglas Camfield died of heart problems not cancer.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jun 5, 2014 21:12:46 GMT
Moonbase for me as I've always preferred the Cybermen over the Daleks. I just hope that we can get more of the *DELETED* eps back.
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Post by Darren Jones on Mar 29, 2014 0:02:02 GMT
Christopher Barry directed the first Dalek story. Indeed Richard. Tho he was just as good i feel..... The few seem to get Fewer these days Yes they do unfortunately. I wish his family well in this upsetting time.
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Post by Darren Jones on Mar 28, 2014 23:59:16 GMT
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Post by Darren Jones on Mar 28, 2014 20:56:37 GMT
Laughed so hard I developed an incontinence problem! Excellent video. Its all got rather boring in the missing episode hunt. So i thought i would lighten it up a bit lol Just watched it again, still just as funny! Favourite quote(s): Hitler: "... Now Morris could burn the f***ing lot." Female German (to another): "Don't cry, Paul Vanezis would never allow that." Classic!
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Post by Darren Jones on Mar 28, 2014 20:42:00 GMT
Laughed so hard I developed an incontinence problem! Excellent video.
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