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Post by Brad Phipps on Jun 17, 2014 9:52:38 GMT
Just been updating the timeline page on my site (which isn't complete) to include obituaries of key people and it's really shocking how most people died from one of two ailments: William Hartnell - Heart failure David Whitaker - Cancer Douglas Camfield - Heart attack Dennis Spooner - Heart attack Ian Marter - Heart attack Patrick Troughton - Heart attack Gerald Flood - Heart attack Jacqueline Hill - Cancer Jon Pertwee - Heart attack Adrienne Hill - Cancer Sydney Newman - Heart attack Michael Craze - Heart attack Anthony Ainley - Cancer Peter Bryant - Cancer Verity Lambert - Cancer Barry Letts - Cancer Elisabeth Sladen - Cancer Caroline John - Cancer Mary Tamm - Cancer Just find it interesting.
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Post by johnforbes on Jun 17, 2014 10:46:28 GMT
Tbh, not really surprisng whatsoever(that list).
They all come from an age where it was considered perfectly ok to smoke. I'd warrant a bet that more than half on that list were smokers. And if there are two things smoking is known to give you, they are, cancer and an increased chance of heart attacks.
I've always been a good boy, never even tried.
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Post by johnbarbour on Jun 17, 2014 14:26:38 GMT
Without wishing to lighten the mood too much one wonders if a heart attack for a Time Lord would be fatal ...unless it was both hearts? And I immediately apologise for this tasteless remark but I just couldn't help it. On a serious note most of us will end our time span because of heart disease or cancer but what really hurts is the relative young age of some of the actors on Brad's list.
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Post by Darren Jones on Jun 17, 2014 15:22:01 GMT
Sad list, many taken before their time. But, IIRC, Douglas Camfield died of heart problems not cancer.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 17, 2014 15:44:59 GMT
Just been updating the timeline page on my site (which isn't complete) to include obituaries of key people and it's really shocking how most people died from one of two ailments: William Hartnell - Heart failure David Whitaker - Cancer Douglas Camfield - Cancer Dennis Spooner - Heart attack Ian Marter - Heart attack Patrick Troughton - Heart attack Gerald Flood - Heart attack Jacqueline Hill - Cancer Jon Pertwee - Heart attack Adrienne Hill - Cancer Sydney Newman - Heart attack Michael Craze - Heart attack Anthony Ainley - Cancer Peter Bryant - Cancer Verity Lambert - Cancer Barry Letts - Cancer Elisabeth Sladen - Cancer Caroline John - Cancer Mary Tamm - Cancer Just find it interesting. It's possible that this is the Chernobyl effect,the Russian nuclear reactor that went critical in 1980 I think.It was predicted then that there would be an increase in cancers in northern Europe and apparently the midlands of the U.K are particularly exposed to the fall-out.Also remember cancer is a disease of old-age and as we're living longer,it's more prevalent but survival rates are increasing as well because of better treatment.This is one of the advantages of living in the modern age-the advances in medical science-although I would still have loved to have lived in the 1960s!
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Post by Richard Marple on Jun 17, 2014 17:16:45 GMT
The older ones on the list would have grown up before the NHS was formed, so probably missed out on some healthcare we would now take for granted.
My Dad once quoted that the average 80 year old in recent years is as healthy as a 60 year old would have been in 1948.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jun 17, 2014 17:19:03 GMT
Roy castle died because of working in places were people smoked ! Those words were from his family ! I guess smoking was big in those days ! And 2nd hand smoke more so. At the end of the day we all die from heart failure in the end
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Post by johnforbes on Jun 17, 2014 18:51:28 GMT
Roy castle died because of working in places were people smoked ! Those words were from his family ! I guess smoking was big in those days ! And 2nd hand smoke more so. At the end of the day we all die from heart failure in the end Well, not exactly. Officially, everyone actually dies from "a lack of blood to the brain". It's a Q and A in "Trivial Pursuit". (how many of you remember that board game from the 90's lol, seems ages ago). And yeah, since smoking was allowed in the work place, there will have been loads of 2nd hand smoke in studios etc.
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Post by johnforbes on Jun 17, 2014 18:53:18 GMT
Just been updating the timeline page on my site (which isn't complete) to include obituaries of key people and it's really shocking how most people died from one of two ailments: William Hartnell - Heart failure David Whitaker - Cancer Douglas Camfield - Cancer Dennis Spooner - Heart attack Ian Marter - Heart attack Patrick Troughton - Heart attack Gerald Flood - Heart attack Jacqueline Hill - Cancer Jon Pertwee - Heart attack Adrienne Hill - Cancer Sydney Newman - Heart attack Michael Craze - Heart attack Anthony Ainley - Cancer Peter Bryant - Cancer Verity Lambert - Cancer Barry Letts - Cancer Elisabeth Sladen - Cancer Caroline John - Cancer Mary Tamm - Cancer Just find it interesting. It's possible that this is the Chernobyl effect,the Russian nuclear reactor that went critical in 1980 I think.It was predicted then that there would be an increase in cancers in northern Europe and apparently the midlands of the U.K are particularly exposed to the fall-out.Also remember cancer is a disease of old-age and as we're living longer,it's more prevalent but survival rates are increasing as well because of better treatment.This is one of the advantages of living in the modern age-the advances in medical science-although I would still have loved to have lived in the 1960s! Fall-out in England will have been minimal at worst. Certainly not enough to give people cancers etc. So no, nothing to do with Chernobyl.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jun 17, 2014 19:55:52 GMT
Roy castle died because of working in places were people smoked ! Those words were from his family ! I guess smoking was big in those days ! And 2nd hand smoke more so. At the end of the day we all die from heart failure in the end Well, not exactly. Officially, everyone actually dies from "a lack of blood to the brain". It's a Q and A in "Trivial Pursuit". (how many of you remember that board game from the 90's lol, seems ages ago). And yeah, since smoking was allowed in the work place, there will have been loads of 2nd hand smoke in studios etc. But in the end john your heart stops ! A fact ...... But hey, such a sad loss whatever the case
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jun 17, 2014 20:00:07 GMT
It's possible that this is the Chernobyl effect,the Russian nuclear reactor that went critical in 1980 I think.It was predicted then that there would be an increase in cancers in northern Europe and apparently the midlands of the U.K are particularly exposed to the fall-out.Also remember cancer is a disease of old-age and as we're living longer,it's more prevalent but survival rates are increasing as well because of better treatment.This is one of the advantages of living in the modern age-the advances in medical science-although I would still have loved to have lived in the 1960s! Fall-out in England will have been minimal at worst. Certainly not enough to give people cancers etc. So no, nothing to do with Chernobyl. Agree with John on this one !
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Post by RossL on Jun 17, 2014 20:36:29 GMT
Fallout in the UK was far from minimal - there are reports in the press as recently as 2010 that sheep from upland areas like the Lake District were still being tested for radioactivity 24 years after Chernobyl exploded.
The first indications in the west that there had been an incident was when the radiation plume set atmospheric radiation detectors off.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jun 17, 2014 20:58:38 GMT
Sad list, many taken before their time. But, IIRC, Douglas Camfield died of heart problems not cancer. You're right, just a typo.
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Post by John Green on Jun 17, 2014 21:03:35 GMT
The worrying thing is that there are probably similar lists of Big Players who suffer from piles.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 17, 2014 21:11:56 GMT
Fallout in the UK was far from minimal - there are reports in the press as recently as 2010 that sheep from upland areas like the Lake District were still being tested for radioactivity 24 years after Chernobyl exploded. The first indications in the west that there had been an incident was when the radiation plume set atmospheric radiation detectors off. You're quite right Ross, reports from 30 years ago predicted that Chenobyl would cause an increase in cancers across Europe, especially thyroid cancers. To suggest that the effects of this radiation would have been minimal is like saying the Earth is flat and turning a blind eye to the very serious effects of what was one of the worst nuclear accidents in history.
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