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Post by zaqwilson on Apr 13, 2020 10:57:09 GMT
Lol, back in 13 the first article I read after seeing 9 eps recovered in my news feed said "Dr Who episodes feared lost for almost 50 years recovered thanks to Phillip Morris."
My first thought "Seriously?! They were found by a tobacco company?"
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Post by zaqwilson on Apr 13, 2020 4:52:47 GMT
Since PV'S inverview where he discussed 2 ME'S existing in a private collection, I have pondered why it was said.
I can't imagine stating that pubically would have aNY positive influence on a recovery. All I Can conclude is to create buzz for armchair experts to dissect or to fan the embers of hope that more exist.
Now PM'S 6 ME'S in private hands statment makes me pessimistic. WOF 3 "were close, we're on top of that, etc" 7-8 years later and just more statments. It's just optimism to create buzz. If there were 6 in some form of negotiation or not, making light of them seems to be counter productive. Expect the unexpected or expect 6 at some point.
In retrospect too many statments are contradictory. Are they off the cuff? Shoot from the hip? Product of the emotional whim of the moment? Current conjecture subject to change without notice?
I wonder if the buzz PV generated by invoking 2 in private hands was coveted and thus by increasing the claim by a factor of three would shift the buzz back, three times more intense. A little redirecting of the spotlight?
I think the silence by the inner circle says a bit. It neither confirm s oR denies. I suspect they sit back and watch The speculative sparks fly, as they sit back and smile as a statment generates so much debate and analysis in An infomation vaccume.
I'm great full to PM and everyone else's efforts, but I grow tired of these statments. It feels like bait.
There are more to come. Heaven only knows what or when. But please, show me, don't tell me. The carrot just out of reach grows old.... after all, the carrot is getting wilted and smells.
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Post by zaqwilson on Apr 7, 2020 4:29:48 GMT
I remember the interview with Paul where the collector was discussed with 2 ME's. I remember the statment that one matched items from the 75 Australia return and one didnt.
I don't, however remember anything identifying them as Hartnells for sure. I thought that was simply conjecture?
I assumed it stemmed from the belief they were likely to be TP4 & DMP 4. Also the new years rumor a few years back that 2 Hartnells were discovered.
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Post by zaqwilson on Oct 3, 2019 10:08:07 GMT
During one interview about his Jos recoveries, Phil did say that the 12 DW reel cans were in “pretty good condition.” But he also said “We arrived just in time. Any longer and we’d have had real problems recovering those programmes. We arrived absolutely in the nick of time.” I remember that contridiction. I always wondered if it could have meant in danger of being nicked by a collector hence the "have had real problems recovering those programs."
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Post by zaqwilson on May 30, 2019 16:12:57 GMT
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Post by zaqwilson on Mar 8, 2019 1:17:55 GMT
I may be a bit of an old dinosaur but if there made in black and white they should be seen in black and white. I am talking about the existing episodes though as for the animations I will watch them in black and white as those era's of the program were made in black and white. Now I have no objection of a colour version of the animations being available for a new generation of fans that did not grow up with black and white television to enjoy. I second you! I think one reason Im so partial to 60s Who is the B&W factor. Colour seemed to detract for me. I enjoy the Pertwees far more in B&W. To quote my roommate in college "Dr Who is easier to believe in B&W... Colour made the sets look more wobbly."
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Post by zaqwilson on Mar 2, 2019 20:29:24 GMT
The technology is coming along nicely.
Its definitely a possibility, but would have to be done with care and attention so it may add to and not detract.
Honestly, for those episodes that will never come back, the more variety of Recons the better.
1) Audio with narration 2) Telesnap recons with Audio 3) Animations 4) Re-staged with Deep fake (hopefully matching with original audio) <=where great effort and care will be required...or A.I. to do it for us (gotta love outsourcing) 5) Original Ep discovered......
I love the fact that I have 3 different versions of Power (or is it 4?) to enjoy since the originals are likely out of existence!
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 22, 2019 0:59:31 GMT
To float the fringe theory, Jan 2017 there floated a rumor that two Hartnell's were located.... related? Lol.
I hope one is DMP, but any one is welcome. My hope is DMP 12 & EOTD 7.
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 18, 2019 3:08:45 GMT
I was thinking about how clips from Power of the Daleks were found in an other show and it got me thinking, Are there any other shows which might of shown missing Doctor Who footage that are now missing? I've heard that C for Computer has since being junked after the Dalek clips were extracted. It's saddening and disheartening to think that wiping continues to this day.....
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 17, 2019 17:43:08 GMT
I don't think his travel log will really indicate what's checked or not. For example, We don't know for sure if Nigeria is exhausted or not. I always assumed (you know what they say about that) PM has a prioritized list of places to check or work on (I imagine he has plenty of groundwork to do just to gain access--for all we know there could be broadcasters who simply won't deal with Tiea), but has to divert to other areas when services are requested, and also might have to keep changing strategies as new information and leads are unearthed. He's keeping his cards close to his chest, as he should with a project of this nature. It might be a long time until this project is complete, and might never be completed. I wouldn't hold my breath for full disclosure. The scope of his work is massive, the planet is large when you consider one team checking almost countless cans one at a time. The only real sway to create a list would be to scour all his interviews for clues. He did say *most* places that had official sales have been checked, but official paperwork isn't always correct. I know this view is not universally shared as PM's remit is not collectors, but if he aquire a lead that out of contract material was passed to or ended up in private hands,I believe he would pursue it. Not just DW items, but anything of cultural value. Don't forget digging in the desert, I doubt literal excavation was in tiea's remit either I can see his work continuing for decades to come.
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 16, 2019 19:00:43 GMT
Just listened. Excellent, thank you for letting us know. Hope springs eternal. Special thanks to the restoration team for their hard work and dedication.
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 4, 2019 0:31:33 GMT
This idea comes up from time to time. The BBC is not likely to open that door.
It might not be wise to begin attaching value to these items as it could easily lead to a hold out for more money.
I firmly believe that more exist in private hand than is generally believed. For those who hold them knowing of their status but keeping them for personal reasons, money is not going to pursue them to return their gems.
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 3, 2019 19:29:21 GMT
The Abominable Snowmen andInvasion of the DinosaursEdit
Roger Stevens was working for the BBC as a film editor in the 1980s, and one morning, as he was travelling to work by train, he bumped into a BBC co-worker and they began to talk about Doctor Who episodes.[48] The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy for £25.[48] In the summer of 1981, Stevens bought The Space Museum episode one, The Abominable Snowmen episode two,The Moonbase episode four, Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one, and three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters.[48] Stevens then contacted Ian Levine to find out what was missing from the BBC archive; Levine confirmed that The Abominable Snowmenepisode two and Invasion of the Dinosaursepisode one were currently missing.[48]
Stevens gave these prints to Levine, who returned The Abominable Snowmen to the BBC in February 1982, although he held backInvasion of the Dinosaurs from the BBC for a while.[48] This was later returned to the BBC by Levine in June 1983, who then made a copy and returned the original to Levine.[49]
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 3, 2019 3:00:18 GMT
Thanks for info! Definitely not waiting 6 months longer, gotta go for the March release to quench my thirst for the golden age of who. As Mara is one I don't know well, it will be a true treat! "Oh my giddy aunt!"
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Post by zaqwilson on Jan 29, 2019 15:49:06 GMT
Thread name "Where do we go from here?" apparently, to further infighting.
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