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Post by ethantyler on Jul 2, 2005 19:33:30 GMT
I dont know whether you have checked the listing but he has put up for sale, The snows of Terror from Keys of Marinus and The search from Space Museum, incomplete. These all exist, but he still has another 8 to list so we could still see the emperor dalek or yeti in the underground! He seems very desperate to convince us through his detail. He could be authentic, but, right now, I don't believe him. How long before we casually see The Roof of the World? I wonder what will happen if he does list a missing episodes. Will fans work together (hah!) or try to outbid each other through disorganisation and the desire to be the one who recovers a missing episode?
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Post by Scott J. on Jul 2, 2005 19:41:24 GMT
If a missing episode does turn up it is likely to be one from the time/period of the others listed,(the engineer would have taken all at the same time, wouldn't he?) so a Hartnell episode around season 1 and 2. Maybe the missing episodes of the Crusade, Galaky 4, Marco Polo or even Mission to the Unknown. (Please!)
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Post by Stuart Douglas on Jul 2, 2005 20:07:27 GMT
I dont know whether you have checked the listing but he has put up for sale, The snows of Terror from Keys of Marinus and The search from Space Museum, incomplete. These all exist, but he still has another 8 to list so we could still see the emperor dalek or yeti in the underground! He seems very desperate to convince us through his detail. He could be authentic, but, right now, I don't believe him. How long before we casually see The Roof of the World? I wonder what will happen if he does list a missing episodes. Will fans work together (hah!) or try to outbid each other through disorganisation and the desire to be the one who recovers a missing episode? I see he's now claiming that digital images from the print from the Chase will be on ther auction listing tomorrow - that would be an encouraging sign! Sturat
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Post by ethantyler on Jul 2, 2005 20:07:28 GMT
If a missing episode does turn up it is likely to be one from the time/period of the others listed,(the engineer would have taken all at the same time, wouldn't he?) so a Hartnell episode around season 1 and 2. Maybe the missing episodes of the Crusade, Galaky 4, Marco Polo or even Mission to the Unknown. (Please!) Don't tease me - The Crusade is my all-time favourite story and "Mission"/"Master Plan" is my second! Although I'm not certain that the episodes would have to be from the same seasons. I can't remember what the seller said about how he obtained them (and am just about to go, so don't have the time to check), but surely it would be a bit a bit like "pick 'n' mix" as already suggested by the randomness of the episodes. I'd honestly like to see any episode returned (though, like all, I have my favourites), so let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Post by Scott J. on Jul 2, 2005 21:02:19 GMT
He has just added pictures of Flight through Eternity but under a seperate lot, looks like he might be genuine, pictures are taken in an old cinema room, looks like a lot of trouble to go to for a hoax!
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Post by ethantyler on Jul 2, 2005 23:48:05 GMT
The answers to the latest questions seem to conflict with earlier answers - originally it was implied that any valueable episodes would be held onto for financial gain, but now it appears he's quite happy to loan any such episodes to the BBC.
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Post by LanceM on Jul 2, 2005 23:50:59 GMT
A question for those who are well versed in vintage film. On this seller's other auction listings, he has one stating Doctor Who film pix. There are pictures attached to this auction, now does this look more like a hoax ? Or more like a genuine find ? This listing is also accompanied by pictures of a home cinema. this is looking more promising. Responses would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Lance.
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Post by ethantyler on Jul 2, 2005 23:55:23 GMT
This listing is also accompanied by pictures of a home cinema. this is looking more promising. Even if it isn't a hoax, there's no reason to get excited as there is nothing to suggest that he has any missing episodes and, by the law of probability, likely has an already existing episodes. There are more existing episodes than missing episodes, particularly in the seasons where his first three episodes originate - there are a total of thirteen episodes missing from Seasons 1 and 2 (out of perhaps eighty or so).
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Post by ethantyler on Jul 3, 2005 0:16:05 GMT
A question for those who are well versed in vintage film. On this seller's other auction listings, he has one stating Doctor Who film pix. There are pictures attached to this auction, now does this look more like a hoax ? Or more like a genuine find ? This listing is also accompanied by pictures of a home cinema. this is looking more promising. I've only just seen those pictures Lance and something strikes me as odd about them. The last image is a capture of the title card and reads "FLIGHT THROUGH ETERNITY"... so why has he called the episode Edge of Eternity in the listing? That's a classic sign of a hoaxer! It also suggests familiarity with the series (i.e. The Edge of Destruction), which is something he has claimed not to be. Having said that, although the picture looks like it's on a screen rather than projected (to me, at least), the quality seems better in some places and worse in others than the UK VHS release. (I find it strange how each photo was taken from a different angle.) It should be interesting to read what the experts have to say about the pictures. There's something fishy... and I don't mean The Underwater Menace (although that would be FANTASTIC!).
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Post by Still Skeptical on Jul 3, 2005 4:01:43 GMT
I wouldn't read much into the "Edge of Eternity" vs "Flight Through Eternity" -- it's just a matter of a typo. With that said however, I think those pics are quite possibly from a DLP projector running the VHS Tape. Note the video artifacts in the title sequence. Also notice that William Russel's head is cropped off - and while this is possibly a framing problem with the projector - it's also quite possible that its a video overscan issue. It's also rather odd how quickly someone without a digital camera and without a projector lamp suddenly found someone with a home cinema set up that can run 16mm and take screen shots.... Seems awfully suspicious to me... How many people do you know who have 16mm film projection equipment in their homes -- not many, and most of them are known by other film collectors (for instance, I know one film collector in Stroud, but it wasn;t him)... . A question for those who are well versed in vintage film. On this seller's other auction listings, he has one stating Doctor Who film pix. There are pictures attached to this auction, now does this look more like a hoax ? Or more like a genuine find ? This listing is also accompanied by pictures of a home cinema. this is looking more promising. I've only just seen those pictures Lance and something strikes me as odd about them. The last image is a capture of the title card and reads "FLIGHT THROUGH ETERNITY"... so why has he called the episode Edge of Eternity in the listing? That's a classic sign of a hoaxer! It also suggests familiarity with the series (i.e. The Edge of Destruction), which is something he has claimed not to be. Having said that, although the picture looks like it's on a screen rather than projected (to me, at least), the quality seems better in some places and worse in others than the UK VHS release. (I find it strange how each photo was taken from a different angle.) It should be interesting to read what the experts have to say about the pictures. There's something fishy... and I don't mean The Underwater Menace (although that would be FANTASTIC!).
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Post by Scott J. on Jul 3, 2005 7:18:02 GMT
The item has had more bids on it since the photos went up, so they have obvoiusly convinced them. Will he be showing pictures of the other 2 episodes? and he is certainly taking his time listing the other 8. Perhaps he knows the raarity of what he has - Masterplan or Mission to the Unknown - PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mark Brown on Jul 3, 2005 9:16:49 GMT
well he also spelt where he lives wrong, so he may just be old.
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Post by Scott J. on Jul 3, 2005 10:43:10 GMT
Do you think that all the episodes he has are going to be ones that already exist or will there be a chance of him having a missing episode or just lost clips?
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Post by ethantyler on Jul 3, 2005 18:17:11 GMT
well he also spelt where he lives wrong, so he may just be old. Fair enough. I suppose if any missing episodes are listed, the photos will prove it unless they're the same as the telesnaps.
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Post by ethantyler on Jul 3, 2005 18:18:30 GMT
Do you think that all the episodes he has are going to be ones that already exist or will there be a chance of him having a missing episode or just lost clips? Based on probability, I would say that all of his episodes will already exist in the archives. However, it's possible that he could have missing episodes. We'll just have to wait and hope.
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