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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 18, 2023 12:10:06 GMT
Sorry my mistake-16mm film recording.Superb quality though! How much of War Games is in 16mm? Do you mean it was actually filmed on Film because I thought it wasn’t or do you mean it’s on film but it was filmed originally on videotape? No, it was filmed as normal. Studio on videotape, location of 16mm. None of that survives. All that does survive is 16mm film recordings of the transmitted episodes, like all the others for the 1960s. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 12:27:46 GMT
How much of War Games is in 16mm? Do you mean it was actually filmed on Film because I thought it wasn’t or do you mean it’s on film but it was filmed originally on videotape? No, it was filmed as normal. Studio on videotape, location of 16mm. None of that survives. All that does survive is 16mm film recordings of the transmitted episodes, like all the others for the 1960s. Ah thought so. Never mind |
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Post by John Wall on Jul 18, 2023 14:32:37 GMT
It was video with filmed inserts - as usual. Ooo which film inserts survive? Is it all of them? That would be gorgeous (I’m guessing they will look like Abominable Snowmen’s Episode 2 film inserts?) I have no idea, somewhere between 0 and 100% I expect. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 15:35:03 GMT
Ooo which film inserts survive? Is it all of them? That would be gorgeous (I’m guessing they will look like Abominable Snowmen’s Episode 2 film inserts?) I have no idea, somewhere between 0 and 100% I expect. Richard already answered this, so this was an unnecessary response. Thanks for your time  |
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Post by John Wall on Jul 18, 2023 16:59:07 GMT
I have no idea, somewhere between 0 and 100% I expect. Richard already answered this, so this was an unnecessary response. Thanks for your time I hadn’t seen that, I was on the previous page. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 18:03:14 GMT
Richard already answered this, so this was an unnecessary response. Thanks for your time I hadn’t seen that, I was on the previous page. It’s cool I’m only messing anyway |
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Post by neilnicholls on Jul 24, 2023 15:05:04 GMT
It was shot in B/W, intended to be seen in B/W on TVs that only showed B/W images. The BFI press release said "Kaleidoscope long wondered what early Doctor Who would look like in colour as the show was shot in colour but broadcast in black & white," |
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Jul 24, 2023 19:25:51 GMT
I guess that means they are colourising the Pertwees then. |
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Post by John Wall on Jul 24, 2023 20:49:00 GMT
I guess that means they are colourising the Pertwees then. It’s either a bit garbled or a rehash of the hoax about some of the later Troughtons being made in colour because they were recorded on 625 line equipment. |
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Post by scotttelfer on Jul 25, 2023 1:27:41 GMT
I guess that means they are colourising the Pertwees then. It’s either a bit garbled or a rehash of the hoax about some of the later Troughtons being made in colour because they were recorded on 625 line equipment.
My take of it was "The world didn't magically turn to colour like The Wizard of Oz the day Jon Pertwee set foot on set, here's what the sets would have looked like in colour based on what information we have from the sets".
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Post by Ralph Rose on Jul 25, 2023 3:13:55 GMT
The light blue and Light green colors of certain sets show that they were meant to be recorded in Black and White.
The light green of the Tardis Console on season seven stories, shows this to some extent as well. The cameras tended to flare on pure white, or flame etc. So other colors were used to calm that effect, and certain hues look better in B&W.
The American show "Lost in Space" shows this in detail between Season One, and Season Two. Season one was shot in B&W, and the costumes and sets were designed to look good in B&W. When the show turned to color, they reused the same costumes. Although those costumes looked good in B&W, they looked awful (To my eyes at least) in color.
If Doctor Who season one, to season six, ever gets the go ahead to be colorized, I hope the colorists take into account that some of the colors the production chose for their sets, props etc, wasn't meant to be seen in color.
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Post by garygraham on Jul 25, 2023 16:01:50 GMT
I’ve never quite understood this apparent obsession with colourising everything - especially since the results are usually underwhelming. Colourised 60’s ‘Who has novelty value I suppose but ultimately just seems like an exercise in futility really. Still, for those who can’t bare to watch anything in black and white anymore this must be great news! As always, each to their own. Me neither it's disrespectful to the creative people who designed a programme in black and white. Many decisions about costumes, make-up, sets and lighting were taken on that basis. |
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jul 25, 2023 17:46:12 GMT
I love original B&W BUT I must say the clips that have been colourised are excellent and really bring the episodes to life. If it's done well I would love it and for those who hate it don't watch it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 19:04:18 GMT
The light blue and Light green colors of certain sets show that they were meant to be recorded in Black and White. The light green of the Tardis Console on season seven stories, shows this to some extent as well. The cameras tended to flare on pure white, or flame etc. So other colors were used to calm that effect, and certain hues look better in B&W. The American show "Lost in Space" shows this in detail between Season One, and Season Two. Season one was shot in B&W, and the costumes and sets were designed to look good in B&W. When the show turned to color, they reused the same costumes. Although those costumes looked good in B&W, they looked awful (To my eyes at least) in color. If Doctor Who season one, to season six, ever gets the go ahead to be colorized, I hope the colorists take into account that some of the colors the production chose for their sets, props etc, wasn't meant to be seen in color. Very interesting points. Do you think they would go for the original colours or colour it the way we would expect to see it? I’m sure people would be mad at either option. So no win win here |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 19:06:14 GMT
I’ve never quite understood this apparent obsession with colourising everything - especially since the results are usually underwhelming. Colourised 60’s ‘Who has novelty value I suppose but ultimately just seems like an exercise in futility really. Still, for those who can’t bare to watch anything in black and white anymore this must be great news! As always, each to their own. Me neither it's disrespectful to the creative people who designed a programme in black and white. Many decisions about costumes, make-up, sets and lighting were taken on that basis. I think if people aren’t willing to watch the Black and White versions then having a colour version of an old show isn’t going to make a huge difference. Say 100 people were turned off by it then I would expect this to maybe make 10 people go ok I’ll give it a shot now. Either way I’m not too fussed. I prefer Black and White but if they do colour I’ll give it a go at least once. |
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