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Post by thomgray on Aug 12, 2016 15:32:37 GMT
The projector was sold last week at a car boot sale? That's ever so convenient
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Post by thomgray on Aug 12, 2016 5:28:08 GMT
I messaged the seller last night just to play them at their own game, requesting a less blurry photo of the film canister. This was their reply:
'Yes I will do tomorrow. It is a replacement tin though - it doesn't have any bbc markings on it. As I understand it the film was found unwound with no tin in a rubbish bin.'
Also, new photo today - a telesnap of Steven. Anyone recognise it?
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Post by thomgray on Aug 11, 2016 22:06:23 GMT
I'd definitely buy a DVD of these clips, perhaps if they were presented in a Lost In Time-style box set. Perhaps we could have Lost In Time: Special Edition, which also included the orphan Galaxy 4 episode and those Dalek clips found after 2004. I know we have them already on other DVDs but it'd be nice to have everything in one place
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Post by thomgray on Aug 11, 2016 21:58:58 GMT
There is not a pixel's difference between the three frames that have been 'photographed'. If you turn the image sideways and do a 'magic eye' stereogram (basically crossing your eyes so the images merge together), they are identical. Yet the rest of the film is covered in scratches and marks. Interested to see what happens though as no doubt this breaches eBay regulations. What's the point of listing it?!
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Post by thomgray on Aug 4, 2016 6:21:28 GMT
Hi all,
Now I expect this question has been asked online before in many places, but I have yet to come across the answer. Apologies for my ignorance if it has already been dealt with but here is my potentially naïve question...
Pretty much every part of the omni rumour that has floated around since October 2013 seems to claim that somewhere between 109 and 96 missing episodes of Doctor Who have been found and this is a convenient number given that it matches the number of missing episodes. Occasionally we're told that the Feast of Steven is not included, but the details are always sketchy.
What I really don't understand about the rumour is that there were over 200 black and white episodes of Doctor Who in the 60s, so the chances of finding the missing ones in isolation is nigh-on impossible as there would no doubt be some which we already had. In which case, there'd have be a discovery of more than 96 (most likely a full set altogether) to achieve the collation of the missing episodes. That, or a percentage of the 96 found were not 'missing' and were mainly ones we already had. In which case, there might only be, say, 9 episodes we didn't already have. Which makes sense given that 9 have already been announced.
Perhaps I'm questioning a topic most people have already disregarded ny now, but it feels like a lot of people are still churning up the same '96 episode goldmine' scenario, and every time I fail to see how this is remotely possible.
Any thoughts?
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Post by thomgray on Aug 3, 2016 15:11:36 GMT
This is a beautiful bit of fantasy. To push it even further I would add that as each originally incomplete story was released, a flurry of the original DVD releases for the same title would appear on eBay and in second-hand stores as they are essentially obsolete. Rather like the standard editions of the DVDs that have since been released as Special Editions! Thanks for posting such an indulgent thread
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Post by thomgray on Jul 24, 2016 9:39:16 GMT
I think the key word in that post is "rumour". Actually the thing that piqued my interest was "the news about Bill released". What news was that exactly? Maybe it's news about Bill as in the new companion? I'm still perplexed what this refers to, though.
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Post by thomgray on Jul 22, 2016 7:56:34 GMT
When talking about missing Doctor Who episodes, I've noticed on several occasions (rarely in this forum, I hasten to add) how quick people are to blame the BBC for wiping tapes all those years ago. Some of the rants are very aggressive, going as far as demanding the BBC to go and retrieve the lost episodes themselves and do something right for a change.
Parking these caps-locked messages aside, I have to admit that while the BBC are not my number one favourite business, I certainly don't feel angry at them or feel the need to blame them for ruining 60s Doctor Who. Yes it's a shame episodes are missing, but culturally and socially the idea of junking old episodes of any TV series at a time when domestic video players were still being developed is perfectly understandable. Colour TV was on the horizon, repeats were a rarity and as a whole, post-war Britain was far more interested in the future than the past. It's really only since the baby boomers grew up that 'nostalgia' has become a marketable idea.
This theory of archiving everything in existence is brilliantly discussed in Simon Reynold's 2011 book Retromania. He discusses mainly how the music industry is obsessed with its own past and feels the need to curate everything about it (special editions, retrospectives, documentaries etc). He also points out that many 'conservation' organisations (such as the National Trust) were founded in the 20th century, highlighting how recent this obsession with the past began.
Thinking about post-war 60s Britain, the concept of archiving everything would seem preposterous. Also, in an era when rationing was still a recent event, reusing old tapes and making do with the limited storage space available is again very reasonable. Looking at these events with today's eyes and moaning how stupid the BBC workers were is ridiculous. They were just doing their job at a time that was culturally very different to ours.
So as much as I'd love to see Tenth Planet Part 4 as much as the next man, give the BBC a break. These things happened half a century ago. Forgiveness is a wonderful gift that benefits both sides of the conflict.
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Post by thomgray on Jul 1, 2016 6:35:57 GMT
What I find incredible is how three DMP episodes have been found despite a very low circulation of episodes being sent around the world, yet Marco Polo remains missing in its entirety when it is known to be widely distributed to other countries. Just goes to show the impact of the Daleks I guess! I doubt many 60s/70s television workers would rush to save a reel of a Marco Polo story in a relatively new science fiction programme against an instantly recognisable metallic foe.
All I can add to this thread is that the current DMP finds are equally as puzzling as the original question about Australia. Just how did two of them end up in a London church basement!? Expect the unexpected! Fifty years on and it may be our only hope.
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Post by thomgray on Jun 26, 2016 6:48:34 GMT
Sounds fantastic
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Post by thomgray on Jun 21, 2016 5:04:11 GMT
Awesome question! Enemy of the World is probably in my top three 60s serials, so I can relate to this question a lot as I really wasn't expecting much from it when it was found. Turns out I was very wrong!
Personally I found the audio book of the Abominable Snowmen unbearable; I've pretty much erased my memory of it due to sheer boredom. Yeti just aren't engaging when all you can hear is the rustling of fur. Hopefully one day I'll be raving about the story in the same way as EOTW, as I can imagine it being good once there is something to look at!!
On a slightly different note, thinking about the Celestial Toymaker, which story would be the most upsetting to discover it was actually terrible?! (NB: I actually love the orphan Celestial Toymaker episode, but I know when it was discovered many were alarmed how much it mismatched the legend!).
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Post by thomgray on May 13, 2016 16:19:13 GMT
Hey folks, Well another year of uni is over for the summer and as a result I have more time than a Timelord can shake a stick at, so I thought I'd catch up on a few tasks I'd been meaning to do one day. One of those was to recreate the Keff McCulloch version of the Doctor Who theme using my Yamaha MX47 synth. It's not a great synth really but it has a lot of presets and one reminded me of part of Keff's theme tune. It was a labour of love and I was desperate to try and get it sounding as close to the original as feasibly possible, despite my self-taught keyboard 'skills' and very little in the way of production experience or technology. I've posted the results on YouTube and they can be heard here: youtu.be/JXlfciOMaOgLet me know what you think of it Thom
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Post by thomgray on Feb 7, 2016 21:43:08 GMT
Does this mean Tomb of the Cyberman was sent to Hong Kong in the 90s by the BBC and is now missing? ...and more recently, Enemy of the World and most of Web of Fear were carelessly left in Nigeria!!
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Post by thomgray on Feb 6, 2016 10:27:53 GMT
2016 seems to have been a very quiet year for this forum so far, so I thought I'd add a bit of light-heartedness to get people thinking Basically the idea is, if all the missing episodes and existing episodes we currently have swapped over (so the earliest surviving episode we had was Marco Polo 1, we didn't have anything from Trougton's era except two episodes of the Invasion and all but one of the Space Pirates, etc), then which of the current existing stories/episodes would we most desire? Personally I think it's a downright miracle that we have the first episode and its pilot, and the first Dalek story exists as a whole too!! Here's a few more fantasy examples... Wouldn't you love to see moving actual moving footage of the Quarks? I bet they looked amazing! The Daleks on the Marie Celeste? Wow, wish I could see that. I'm so bored of these Web Planet telesnaps, I bet those flying scenes were breathtaking. God, I wish we could find the other three episodes of Tenth Planet, damn these orphan episodes. Hopefully this will make us feel really grateful for what we already have, which is apparently how to maintain happiness and get us through the winter months!!
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Post by thomgray on Dec 19, 2015 20:37:41 GMT
have you tried Screen Ocean who sell clips of the C4 archive? They should at least be able to tell if C4 still have their TX copy - if not, ask Nigel Planer! I forgot to add that I'd already tried Channel 4 and they pointed me to the production house who made the programme, but Nigel Planer is a good idea!
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