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Post by thomgray on Aug 4, 2016 6:21:28 GMT
Hi all,
Now I expect this question has been asked online before in many places, but I have yet to come across the answer. Apologies for my ignorance if it has already been dealt with but here is my potentially naïve question...
Pretty much every part of the omni rumour that has floated around since October 2013 seems to claim that somewhere between 109 and 96 missing episodes of Doctor Who have been found and this is a convenient number given that it matches the number of missing episodes. Occasionally we're told that the Feast of Steven is not included, but the details are always sketchy.
What I really don't understand about the rumour is that there were over 200 black and white episodes of Doctor Who in the 60s, so the chances of finding the missing ones in isolation is nigh-on impossible as there would no doubt be some which we already had. In which case, there'd have be a discovery of more than 96 (most likely a full set altogether) to achieve the collation of the missing episodes. That, or a percentage of the 96 found were not 'missing' and were mainly ones we already had. In which case, there might only be, say, 9 episodes we didn't already have. Which makes sense given that 9 have already been announced.
Perhaps I'm questioning a topic most people have already disregarded ny now, but it feels like a lot of people are still churning up the same '96 episode goldmine' scenario, and every time I fail to see how this is remotely possible.
Any thoughts?
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Post by RWels on Aug 4, 2016 8:29:13 GMT
Hi all, Now I expect this question has been asked online before in many places, but I have yet to come across the answer. Apologies for my ignorance if it has already been dealt with but here is my potentially naïve question... Pretty much every part of the omni rumour that has floated around since October 2013 seems to claim that somewhere between 109 and 96 missing episodes of Doctor Who have been found and this is a convenient number given that it matches the number of missing episodes. Occasionally we're told that the Feast of Steven is not included, but the details are always sketchy. What I really don't understand about the rumour is that there were over 200 black and white episodes of Doctor Who in the 60s, so the chances of finding the missing ones in isolation is nigh-on impossible as there would no doubt be some which we already had. In which case, there'd have be a discovery of more than 96 (most likely a full set altogether) to achieve the collation of the missing episodes. That, or a percentage of the 96 found were not 'missing' and were mainly ones we already had. In which case, there might only be, say, 9 episodes we didn't already have. Which makes sense given that 9 have already been announced. Perhaps I'm questioning a topic most people have already disregarded ny now, but it feels like a lot of people are still churning up the same '96 episode goldmine' scenario, and every time I fail to see how this is remotely possible. Any thoughts? wait, this is that thing I've heared about, isn't it, what was it called again? Realism, that was it! You were probably not aware but it's a bit of a faux pas to mention realistic probabilities when discussing the omnirumour.  500 years ago you would have said perhaps, if there are so many pieces of the true cross of christ, then it must have been a huge cross, enormous, and it's mentioned nowhere that Jesus was a giant. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 9:52:23 GMT
These episodes went missing on planet Earth some time ago. We are here, on planet Earth, trying to locate them, not jetting off to planet Venus or somewhere remote to try and locate them. So yes, realistically speaking, on a planetary scale it is possible that they have all have been located by now, being as we are here on that same planet.
Probably one of the simplest arguments for the fact that we will have them all on i-tunes one day - even if I say it myself.
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Post by Douglas Wulf on Aug 10, 2016 3:18:25 GMT
Phil Morris did what no one else had done before (except for Paul Vanezis in Cyprus), and that was to go places in person and have a proper look. It has been described as a no-stone-left-unturned search.
We haven't yet been told exactly what was found in this search, beyond the episodes of Web and Enemy and a few other non-Who finds. The rumor has been that more was found. We shall see.
The Omnirumor may not be true, but the missing episode Omnisafari did factually occur. We can all be grateful that the effort was made. It might never have happened but for Phil Morris coming along and making it happen, along with those who worked with him.
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Post by Giles Sparrow on Aug 22, 2016 14:43:11 GMT
Hi all, Now I expect this question has been asked online before in many places, but I have yet to come across the answer. Apologies for my ignorance if it has already been dealt with but here is my potentially naïve question... Pretty much every part of the omni rumour that has floated around since October 2013 seems to claim that somewhere between 109 and 96 missing episodes of Doctor Who have been found and this is a convenient number given that it matches the number of missing episodes. Occasionally we're told that the Feast of Steven is not included, but the details are always sketchy. What I really don't understand about the rumour is that there were over 200 black and white episodes of Doctor Who in the 60s, so the chances of finding the missing ones in isolation is nigh-on impossible as there would no doubt be some which we already had. In which case, there'd have be a discovery of more than 96 (most likely a full set altogether) to achieve the collation of the missing episodes. That, or a percentage of the 96 found were not 'missing' and were mainly ones we already had. In which case, there might only be, say, 9 episodes we didn't already have. Which makes sense given that 9 have already been announced. Perhaps I'm questioning a topic most people have already disregarded ny now, but it feels like a lot of people are still churning up the same '96 episode goldmine' scenario, and every time I fail to see how this is remotely possible. Any thoughts? For what it's worth, the early iterations of the Omnirumour from c.June 2013 do/did indeed cover this, indicating that a total of 300-odd reels of 60s Who had been discovered including (insert number of your choice) missing ones...). And those 300-odd reels of film are/were supposedly a small element among thousands of other non-Who finds. There's plenty about the Omnirumour to stretch credibility (especially in the way it's evolved since 2013), but if you go back to the original stories, they did make sense on this level at least. It's just that when people talk about number x recovered, they tend to be focussing on the missing ones (for obvious reasons...) |
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Post by Douglas Wulf on Aug 23, 2016 3:22:39 GMT
Hi all, Now I expect this question has been asked online before in many places, but I have yet to come across the answer. Apologies for my ignorance if it has already been dealt with but here is my potentially naïve question... Pretty much every part of the omni rumour that has floated around since October 2013 seems to claim that somewhere between 109 and 96 missing episodes of Doctor Who have been found and this is a convenient number given that it matches the number of missing episodes. Occasionally we're told that the Feast of Steven is not included, but the details are always sketchy. What I really don't understand about the rumour is that there were over 200 black and white episodes of Doctor Who in the 60s, so the chances of finding the missing ones in isolation is nigh-on impossible as there would no doubt be some which we already had. In which case, there'd have be a discovery of more than 96 (most likely a full set altogether) to achieve the collation of the missing episodes. That, or a percentage of the 96 found were not 'missing' and were mainly ones we already had. In which case, there might only be, say, 9 episodes we didn't already have. Which makes sense given that 9 have already been announced. Perhaps I'm questioning a topic most people have already disregarded ny now, but it feels like a lot of people are still churning up the same '96 episode goldmine' scenario, and every time I fail to see how this is remotely possible. Any thoughts? For what it's worth, the early iterations of the Omnirumour from c.June 2013 do/did indeed cover this, indicating that a total of 300-odd reels of 60s Who had been discovered including (insert number of your choice) missing ones...). And those 300-odd reels of film are/were supposedly a small element among thousands of other non-Who finds. There's plenty about the Omnirumour to stretch credibility (especially in the way it's evolved since 2013), but if you go back to the original stories, they did make sense on this level at least. It's just that when people talk about number x recovered, they tend to be focussing on the missing ones (for obvious reasons...) Those early rumors are certainly what keep me hoping. |
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