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Post by Ace St.John on Feb 3, 2021 20:25:34 GMT
I was wondering if anyone here knows anything more about this.... www.ewbankauctions.co.uk/20201130-lot-5180-Terrahawks-41-Film-reel-boxes-containing-16mm-film-reel-of-the-episodes?arr=0&auction_id=0&box_filter=0&category=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=16mm%20film&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=10&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=According to the info in the above link it appears that on the 30th of November 2020, 41 16mm film reels of the 1980's Gerry Anderson series Terrahawks were sold for £1,400 at Ewbanks auction in Woking. Looking at a few sources as of the Blu Ray release in 2016: 4 of the 39 Terrahawks episodes were still missing in their original 16mm format and therefore couldn't be transferred in native hd. These were the episodes: Go(l)d, Thunder Roar, Time warp and Cold Finger. As far as I know these 4 missing episodes of Terrahawks are only officially archived on 1" video tape transfer for broadcast. I believe the negatives for all 39 episodes are still missing but the remaining 35 16mm episodes have been transferred in HD from 16mm prints. Zooming in on the photograph of the Lot of 41 film reels I can see at least 3 of the missing titles and also a dupe print of one of them. Is this discovery known about(?) and does this mean the blu-ray releases will be due an upgrade? Of course that would depend on the co-operation of whoever bought these in auction unless they were copied or transfered before auction. Does anyone here know the current archive status of this? ---------------------------------------------------------------- *note: From searching this forum - under a thread called 'Ricky's Vault' posted in 2014, it is mentioned that the 16mm film negatives for Terrahawks were being stored at a film holdings in Rickmansworth that closed down or possibly moved location. The name of the holding archive was Ricky's Vaults and was located at number 26, Ebury Road, Rickmansworth.
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Post by Ace St.John on Jan 17, 2021 12:04:49 GMT
If only every episode of DW had been recorded as 30line video somewhere . I know not very detailed at all but thay would be better than nothing
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Post by Ace St.John on Jan 17, 2021 12:03:01 GMT
I think you're rather seeing things that aren't there. Maybe I am, I am the kind of guy that always covers up or scribbles over those sorts of drawings so maybe I am just a little sensitive to them. Sorry for bring it up. Either way, if someone has draw on it, it means that at least someone had interacted with the film cans before. All I can see on the 4th film can down is that someone has drawn the letters, "PP" Which is the story code for Enemy of The World
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Post by Ace St.John on Jan 13, 2021 4:44:09 GMT
And here's a video on the camcorder in the 80's that used cassette tape just to put this into even more context... youtu.be/TCXJ5twf5tM
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Post by Ace St.John on Oct 16, 2019 13:47:52 GMT
I really loved the feel of the recon. It was a master class in 60s tv. I found Malpha’s northern accent a bit jarring, but I don’t know how that compares with the original. This production was a universe better than the animations. What episodes could they resurrect in a similar way without the need for the regular cast? Are there any Doctor/ companion light episodes of DMP? In the original version the actor who played Malpha did something pretty similar with his voice . Minus the accent. In my humble opinion the original 1965 version of Malpha's voice was not a brilliant decision from a artistic perspective and probably not very good for the vocal chords from a medical one. In this case they woulda been better to improve that aspect: like tone down the delivery or soften the vocal approach or try something different. Even tho I am usually a purist. That being said the actors delivery was very close to the original . Apart from the Yorkshire accent tho lol!!! : -{] hahahaha
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Post by Ace St.John on Apr 1, 2019 13:44:20 GMT
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Post by Ace St.John on Mar 22, 2019 22:38:47 GMT
Recently Peter Purves reported on Twitter that the remake was going to be screened at a private screening on the 29th of March and he urged the BBC to consider release
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Post by Ace St.John on Feb 28, 2019 2:00:22 GMT
I thought I read somewhere that after his death in 1969 John Cura’s widow was left with many binders of telesnaps. Not finding anyone interested in taking them, she threw some (or all?) away. Alas, sorry, I have no citation and I can’t find the source. I’ll look again. Who owns the telesnaps that still exist? The BBC? Some were found at the BBC's written archive centre. Also various directors have been the source for some in existence thinking of Christopher Barry and Wariss Hussein of the top of my head.
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Post by Ace St.John on Feb 23, 2019 2:38:06 GMT
Yes, it's well worth a listen. In it, Paul confirms that he knows of a collector who has 16 mm film cans with labels indicating that they contain two missing Doctor Who episodes, one of which may have come from the 1975 return from Australia, but the other definitely not. Paul has not examined the contents so he cannot confirm whether the films match the cans. In light of this news and as a matter of interest...which 2 episodes would you folks like to see returned the most? The 1975 returns would include: Galaxy 4, The Myth Makers, The Smugglers, The Tenth Planet, The Power of the Daleks, The Underwater Menace, The Moonbase, The Faceless Ones, The Evil of the Daleks, The Abominable Snowmen, The Ice Warriors, The Web of Fear, The Invasion, and The Space Pirates. Non-1975 returns would include: Marco Polo, The Reign of Terror, The Crusade, Mission to the Unknown, The Dalek's Masterplan, The Massacre, The Celestial Toymaker, The Savages, The Highlanders, The Macra Terror, Fury of the Deep, and the Wheel in Space. The question really is: which two would you want from each group? A lot of you who answered Luke managed to keep to the rule anyway! Don't know if that was intentional or not. For me I'd want Four Hundred Dawns (Galaxy4 4) from the first group, and The Destruction of Time (Masterplan 12) from the second. Oh from 1975 returns: The Moonbase The Evil of the Daleks And from any other potential returns: Mission to the Unknown Daleks Masterplan
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Post by Ace St.John on Feb 6, 2019 13:12:15 GMT
Hello DW Fans.... If noone's actually done it, I'm quite happy to contact the TV people in Iran. That would be interesting Ray. How would you go about that? At least you have the credentials/track record of being an archivist and finding lost tv. Maybe we have film in our archives that would be of interest and value to them and a two way negotiation could take place. Please update us if you do contact them Ray
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Post by Ace St.John on Feb 5, 2019 16:48:36 GMT
tapes of marco polo does not sound likely. likely they would be films if they were there. I agree I'm just quoting how the Tweet was written although some do loosely refer to reels of film as tapes... (albeit inaccurately depending on how you look at a reel of film) I assumed from the context that they were referring to containers or cans containing 16mm telerecordings However upon reflection there is always a chance of telerecordings on 16mm film being telecined onto tape by the broadcaster prior to broadcasting but very unlikely that such a tape wouldnt have been wiped or recorded over for other broadcasts. As far as I know video tape copies of Who were never sent out to foreign broadcasters by the Beeb in the 1960's only film copies. Later during the color era U-matic NTSC or PAL video tapes were sent out as colour copies. 16mm b&w Telerecordings of Pertwee were still sent out for places that were still broadcasting/purchasing them in monohrome.
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Post by Ace St.John on Feb 5, 2019 9:17:59 GMT
According to someone on Twitter who was also at the talk from what was said there is also the possibility that the prints are no longer there anymore. Could have been nicked or lost or junked but one variable remained over the years and that was sightings of tapes marked Doctor Who on the shelves of an archive.
Paul could just be confirming what we'very known about for years so nothing to get excited about for now as far as I can see.
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Post by Ace St.John on Jan 22, 2019 16:26:48 GMT
I'm just curious at to why some are so insistent that the three surviving prints of DMP are from anything other then the 11-episode set made for Australia? It certainly seems evident based upon the cans they were discovered with that the eps 5 & 10 were returned from Australia. And as for the print of episode 2 of DMP which was liberated by Francis Watson in the early 70's - a trainee engineer. From what I gather the print he saved was just laying around and could have been one of a number of old films used as material for practise editing splicing film etc... sounded like it was surely destined to be junked eventually - and that was the official corporation guidelines at the time so he surely saved what could be the only copy from destruction. And hes also shared that with 'the people' by liberating the episode back into the public domain. Which we are appreciative off and with gratitude. This print of DMP2 could also have been from the Australian set returned to the UK. To bring this back to the original topic of your thread: I can see no reason to believe that any of the three episodes came from anywhere other than the 11prints sent as audition prints to Oz. As far as I know no further evidence has come to light to suggest contrary. I would love to be proven wrong on this assumption as it would increase chances of further returns.
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Post by Ace St.John on Jan 22, 2019 13:14:35 GMT
apologies if my optimism seems so high/ too high. I am merely dicussing if there are there any logical loopholes worth considering. I am enthusiastic for this one. I read the novel and always thought it would be brilliant to get a chance to see the complete audio visuals.
I am grateful for what we have tho.
I would love DMP to come back and MTTU but anything from season 3 would be a amazing find especially as theres many season 3 stories without any visual representation. I think the Star Was type futurism and the ever changing plot of Masterplan is whats grand plus ^ + appeal amongst other factors and the vintage sci-fi elements
If you asked me if I believed that there could be copies out there of the other than the already extant 3 episodes of DMP my answer would be well I really don't know... no one really has enough facts because there is always room for the unknown or unexpected or possibility however remote... the odds seem slim but hey you never know.
Incidentally do we know what year the video tape masters for masterplan are recorded as being wiped?
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Post by Ace St.John on Jan 21, 2019 5:49:17 GMT
Could a extra set of negatives have been made to send to Australia for creating duplicate positives for the different regions? They didn’t need multiple prints except on extremely rare occasions. Is it possible tho that negatives were sent to BBC ENTERPRISES in Sydney and the positives were printed at local film labs in the Sydney area?
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