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Post by Paul Rumbol on May 23, 2008 17:49:53 GMT
Does anybody know which music paper to look through for Radio Luxembourg listings 1959 -1962? I presume a trip a Colindale newspaper library will be necessary but i believe you can only buy phototat copies from certain papers. Others you have to order unless its all changed since my last visit.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on May 20, 2008 8:45:27 GMT
Ive just seen an officially released CD of Billy Fury's live sessions at Radio Luxembourg. Are these recordings taken from the studio masters or are they just scrubbed-up off air recordings made by fans. Many other stars featured in their own shows on Lux during the late 50s/early 60s, including Cliff Richard, Marty Wilde, Helen Shapiro, Russ Conway, Lonnie Donegan. They all made unique audio recordings at Luxembourg's London studios. Have any of these survived?
I've long wondered whether any masters from Luxembourg have surfaced at all. I never hear them being spoken about. The usual story was that they were all bulk erased after broadcast.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on May 13, 2008 22:08:16 GMT
Talk of the Town doesnt exist Andy. The show aired on BBC2 sometime in June1968 and you can guess the fate. The clip your referring to (When Im Sixty Four) sung on stage in 'Thankyou' is from 'Cliff in Berlin' - a tv concert Cliff recorded in Germany in June 1970. This does exist in their archives but will probably never see release. However i do have a 16mm telerecording of this which i have transferred to dvd.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on May 12, 2008 21:48:11 GMT
David i think thats wishful thinking. Ive spoken to the Cliff Richard Organization and other people close to Cliff and he certainly doesnt have any of this material. Likewise other BBC regulars from the early 70''s like Lulu, Rolf Harris, Cilla Black etc probably have nothing either. The autonomous BBC foolishly decided on a mass wiping policy -keeping only token episodes of these variety shows. Indeed it came as a shock to many of the stars when they discovered, decades later, that all their tv work had been wiped. I for one am very sad about that. The BBC wiped all 3 series of 'It's Cliff Richard'(40 shows) keeping only one token copy from the 1970 season. There is however one other surviving clip from Cliff's 1971 series . This features Clodagh Rodgers singing Jack in the Box, lifted from the series as a Eurovision preview tape for broadcast abroad. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd9Um6BpiTs
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Post by Paul Rumbol on May 12, 2008 8:37:43 GMT
One of the BBC employees who covertly copied and saved material due for wiping was Nick Maingay. Has anybody a full listing of what he actually saved? My impression is that he was more a hard-rock music fan, so he disregarded the plethora of variety/light entertainment shows which passed his way at the time.
Does anyone know which years Maingay was employed by the BBC? I believe he was there in the late 60's / early 70's.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Jan 30, 2008 8:10:34 GMT
That's from a one-off 50 minute LWT production entitled 'Cliff at the Movies' broadcast on 21st September 1968. It was the last tv show Cliff made with the Shadows before they disbanded in December that year. The show is really a romp through the history of the movies, taking in 14 songs, including 'Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines', 'Gotta Dance', 'Temptation' and 'If I Could Talk To The Animals'. One of the more bizarre sketches features Hank Marvin dressed as Carmen Miranda dancing with Cliff's Groucho Marx to 'I Yi Yi Yi Yi I Like You Very Much'.
This odd show is about as far removed from rock 'n' roll as you can get. Having been established stars who embraced the pop charts, films,world tours, pantomime and tv for 10 years, Cliff and the Shadows had achieved it all and their was little else left to do. When the Shadows split just weeks later Cliff was already an established successful solo star, representing Britain in Eurovision, and soon to sign a long term contract with the BBC for his regular Saturday night 'It's Cliff Richard' series.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Jan 12, 2008 22:27:04 GMT
Only one show from all 3 of Cliff's Saturday night series for the BBC is known to survive. The other shows (38 in total) are believed wiped. The clip of the Shads above is from that sole surviving show.. No.5 from the first 1970 season broadcast 30th January 1970. Heres a run down of all the wiped shows... 1970 'It's Cliff Richard' Series 13 shows. Show 5 Survives only 1971 'It's Cliff Richard' Series 13 Shows Wiped 1972 'It's Cliff Richard' Series 13 Shows Wiped
A couple of one-off BBC August Bank Holiday specials from 70 and 71 do exist and it is the comedy clips from these which you see most frequently in clips.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Dec 31, 2007 20:06:39 GMT
Laurence i believe the first half of this concert from 30th April 66 is missing... only the 2nd half survives.
It is often said that the 64 poll concert is complete - this is inaccurate. The first show of two broadcast by ABC is shorter by some 15-20 minutes with Cliff and Shadows closing set of 6 songs strangely missing. The Beatles closed the 2nd broadcast show of course which focused on the Merseybeat groups.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Nov 7, 2007 22:51:27 GMT
Tim to this day ive never been able to establish which of the ATV Saturday Spectaculars survives. A recent list from Granada is even less complete than the list i received from Carlton (the former copyright owners) 8 years ago. Dont take what they send to you as the 'definitive list' as there are some glaring omissions for reasons which baffle me.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Nov 7, 2007 21:14:15 GMT
Tim there's also the 1960 Royal Command Performance - the first ever to be televised in Britain - in which he sings a song about sunglasses backed by the vernons girls. Later in the section which is entitled 'Focus on Youth' he sings 'Ready Teddy ' with Cliff Richard. This ATV show does survive in the archives of Granada Intl but the picture quality is very dark and grainy.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Oct 29, 2007 14:58:44 GMT
ps. Ronnie the CRO (Cliff Richard Organization) were aware of the auction but decided against bidding - fearing this would prove to be a copyright minefield for clearance. Also it has to be said this accountant-led organization show little interest in Cliff's old tv- they are far too preoccupied with his wine, hotel and perfume businesses. These are the obvious money-spinners to them. Sad but its true!
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Oct 29, 2007 12:11:25 GMT
This is still a crushing blow. Ron please please consider giving the buyer's contact details to someone like Chris of Kal. Allow it to one person at least as im sure you would be gutted as the rest of us if these disappear into some private cubboard never to be seen or heard for another 35 years. At least it would initiate a new chapter in this story and not bring it to a dead end.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Sept 20, 2007 18:36:49 GMT
This looks like an excellent compilation Peter. So much material crammed into it - real value for money at only £8.50. Im surprised to see its release as i thought there would have been a double whammy of enormous clearance fees to both Dusty's estate and the BBC. So pleasing this problem was not insurmountable after all. Its also quite historic in 'probably' being the first of BBC's 60's musical variety programmes to be officially released in any format. Maybe the likes of Lulu, Cliff, Cilla, Val etc will follow. Or what's left of them!
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Jun 16, 2007 11:57:01 GMT
Can anyone confirm if any of this series survives in BBC's archives? www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAFWuEDqB_gIt looks like this Shirley Bassey edition from 22nd Feb comes from the BBC with its customary timecoded clock.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on May 14, 2007 9:22:34 GMT
Yes Gary that clip looks like its taken from Cliff's 72 series - but i cant verify the stage backdrop on that one to say it definitely is! It looks like bad news again then. Probably little bits n pieces used sparingly in other programmes on request until the shows were wiped not long after. For example a short segment of Cliff's71 series was featured on BBCs Points of View that year at a viewers request, but i presume that no longer exists either.
2 quick questions.. 1.What nationality is the speaker in the intro to the New Seekers clip? 2. If tv companies abroad licenced/purchased a clip would the bbc send 'just that clip' or the whole show, and on what format would that be sent?
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