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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Oct 10, 2013 11:20:10 GMT
No matter the number of episodes involved it's great news but I can't help thinking I will be a little disapointed if there are no Dalek episodes amongst them (Masterplan, Power and Evil). This could be the last chance saloon for these classics.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Sept 26, 2013 22:01:34 GMT
I saw part two of `The Tenth Planet' at the NFT as part of the 20th anniversary celebrations and remember that the sound was AWFUL. This was of course long before the Graeme Strong audio recordings turned up. IIRC the soundtrack on the newly recovered `Masterplan' episode they screened was equally as bad.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Aug 6, 2013 12:20:32 GMT
I want to see the originals as broadcast, warts and all - the way I remember them. I have no interest in hearing Nick Briggs tampering with Daleks on a 1972 story so I didn't and won't watch the updated `Day of the Daleks.' I'm more than happy with the original. However if others want to see an "improved" production who am I to say they shouldn't have the choice? Just don't expect me to watch it that's all! I suspect there will be a divide between older and newer fans on this issue. People like myself generally won't approve of changes whereas those not brought up in the monichrome era will be keener to see the black and white stories colourised.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jul 16, 2013 10:45:03 GMT
Ron Merritt asked `Have there been any rumors that have actually turned out to be true?' That's a good point. With no internet then rumours were spread by word of mouth or in fanzines - sometimes given greater authenticity if it made the pages of the Monthly. One of the strongest and oldest was for `The Singing Sands' which has of course now been exposed. It was believed that a print of this episode was being hoarded by a fan. Other strong rumours were `The Tenth Planet' 4 (`the most likely missing episode to exist' according to Doctor Who Bulletin) and `Power of the Daleks' part 2 (minus opening credits). And don't get me started on Simon Lydiards' Skaro article! An anonymous corespondent to DWB claimed to have two episodes of `The Highlanders' in the wake of `Tomb of the Cybermens' recovery but no evidence was forthcoming. So in fact very few rumours yielded returns and I for one tended to dismiss them after a while. Although the 1980s were a golden age for recoveries the fact is that most of the returns came out of the blue. I was aware that there were `Dr Who' prints on their way from Hong Kong in 1992 but there was no indication as to their content of even if they were missing. So even the recovery of `Tomb' was not pre-empted by anything linking the story to Hong Kong. Yet it was still a time of hope with fans eagerly awaiting the next recovery until the well pretty much ran dry. I shook my head in disbelief when I heard that all six parts of `The Web of Fear' had been found and can't believe people were taken in by it - and some are still going on about it. The prospect of one episode coming back is miniscule let alone the entire story. Sceptically, I immediately logged onto the Reatoration Teams website where there was no mention of the report and soon forgot about it. But that is part of the problem with Dr Who fans, some of whom are gullible enough to believe anything which merely feeds the rumours - as Adam Lee once said, commenting that fans refused to believe episodes were gone forever - "it's as if they think they can will them into existence."
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jul 15, 2013 19:42:27 GMT
"Have there been any rumors that have actually turned out to be true?" Well `Faceless Ones' 3 and `Evil of the Daleks' 2 for sure.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jul 12, 2013 10:04:06 GMT
ITV Sport only started archiving their output in 1969. They have a handful of pre 1969 programmes but VERY few - the 1966 World Cup Final was an obvious choice for keeping. Yes many of the ITV regional companies do hold earlier footage OUTWITH the ITV Sport holdings.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Apr 27, 2013 9:53:05 GMT
There's a 50-50 chance I may have some of this. I was at home that day when the news broke and had to go out shortly afterwards. Realising I was watching history I put an E180 in my VCR and pressed record. I never did watch the tape other than to check it had recorded. I can't be certain if the channel was BBC or ITV (hence the 50-50) and I have moved house since then but I should still have it - somewhere. One thing I do remember before leaving the house was there was a lot of speculation about who was responsible with the Palestinians just one of the suspects. I vividly recall a shot of Palestinians (including women and children) cheering and celebrating the news although this was strangely never shown again. I believe this may be on Youtube. Anyway I will have a search when I get time!
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Mar 8, 2013 23:18:02 GMT
`Scotland Late' was a joint news and sports production by the `Scotsport' and `Scotland Now' teams which went out on most Wednesday evenings from the start of the 1967-8 season until early 1968 when the midweek sport went out under the Scotsport banner again. Hibs V Napoli may have featured but I have no further details for that particular edition. The Rangers V Cologne match was played the previous evening in Germany but this does not eliminate it from being screened on Scotland Late as it was not unusual in those days for overseas matches not screened on the Eurovision link to have film flown back to STV or BBC Scotland for transmission the next evening. Certainly there was no football on either channel on the day of the Cologne game. BBC Scotlands 'Sportsreel' did incidentally show highlights of the first leg at Ibrox on November 8th. Equally at this time Scotsport had a contract to show two ten minute edits during each broadcast (longer versions could be negotiated for European matches and internationals) so both games could have been shown on the 29th. The only other Scottish side in action that night were Aberdeen who were away to Standard leige in the Cup Winners' Cup. The chances are the STV library will no longer have any footage as there was at the time deemed little point in retaining football matches once broadcast although some of the goals were kept with the rest of the highlights junked. STV sometimes gave film prints to the participating clubs which is how a number of Dunfermlines European matches survive - including the 6-2 Valencia game which Robin mentions, although the first goal is missing. Other games from the period retained by STV are pretty much hit and miss. As far as Hibs are concerned there are highlights of Hibs V Bayern Munich from 1960, V Balenenses from '61 and Real Madrid from 1964 at least in the STV library. Hope this is off some help.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Feb 14, 2013 12:50:05 GMT
I remember reading a mention of the Panopticon events in a DWAS publication - either the yearbook or CT but it was sometime after the event - which I will still have somewhere. It was only a brief mention by one of the Exec. as the article was an overview of the entire convention. My gut reaction was that these still missing at the time episodes may have slipped through the net due to being dismissed out of hand. For obvious reasons I can see no way the DWAS Exec. would have given approval for any individual to profit from the screening of copyright material but I would have thought the best thing to do would have been to play along initialy and ask for evidence that the prints existed before dismissing the offer. Of course this may have been done and the request rejected and it is easy to criticise from this distance. There were after all no shortage of hoaxes in those days - particularly at conventions. But I was at the time left with a feeling of a missed oportunity until thankfully those same prints turned up a couple of years later thanks to the efforts already noted in this thread.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 22, 2013 12:29:04 GMT
If you are looking for a copy the Scotish Screen Archive will sell you one on disc subject to copyrightholders permission (STV). I've purchased material from them before at reasonable rates (including STV material). You do have to sign a disclaimer first agreeing the programme is for your own personal use and will not be copied.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 21, 2013 12:32:31 GMT
There were a number of Dr Who sketches on Crackerjack. I recall seeing Daleks on there on at least two occasions in the mid-sixties. Two Daleks apeared during one sketch, possibly just one in the other. If they used the regular operators then John Scott Martins royalty payments may provide dates. Another I remember featured Peter Glaze and Leslie Crowther dressed up in wigs and baggy trousers performing a song that went along the lines of "I'm the old Doctor Who..." "And I'm the new Doctor Who...." I have a feeling this was from the start of Pertwees era but it may date to around the time of `Power of the Daleks.' I am aware of the poor status of Crackerjack so these will be long lost.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 8, 2013 17:14:19 GMT
Neil Megson - `Maybe they could, er, broadcast it on the BBC ?'
Well whent the two Dads Army episodes turned up about ten years ago (`Operation Kilt' and & Sgt Wilsons....') they screened one of them on BBC1 or 2 before releasing them both on a DVD compilation. I thought that was a fair compromise as casual fans could at least see one of them whereas the enthusiasts would be sure to buy the disc. I wouldn't hold your breathe for `Underwater Menace' 2 though!
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Oct 4, 2012 22:09:10 GMT
I actually had - and probably still have - an audio recording of that feature. I would have dated it about '74 so I'm sure jgreens details are accurate. I was able to set up my cassette recorder due to the way Nationwide previewed its content in a small trailer at the start before going to the regional news programmes.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Sept 28, 2012 21:56:46 GMT
I remember being offered a print of `Evil 2' at the Westminster comic mart in the mid to late 1980s along with others. Pretty sure it was on Super 8 but it may have been 8mm. Wasn't really interested at the time as I already had pirated VHS copies.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jul 19, 2012 15:13:11 GMT
` the original post by Ronnie McDevitt about missing episodes threads seemed both fairly innocuous and polite to me' Stuart Douglas, Adminsitrator That was my intention Stuart. My main fear is that if people continue to treat this as a general Dr Who forum it may go the same was as the Restoration Team forum did. It was a toss-up between responding to the `Krotons DVD extras' thread (which soon veered further off-topic to discuss the covers supplied by Amazon) or `the first video recorder you bought' (Doctor Who specific? Any relevance to missing episodes atall? - sorry again no offence intended!!!!!!) But this timburrows has immediately thrown the toys out of the pram and gone to the trouble of entering my profile to check my previous postings - not that I have anything to hide. When someone else dared to suggest his post was more suited to Outpost Galifrey he posted the following insults, - ` some complete arseholes here; discourteous, arrogant and rude' ...... `some of the regulars are just bloody obnoxious' -, most of which were presumably aimed in my direction, and announced he was leaving the forum, suggesting the actions of a rather insecure individual. Equally this is not the place for personal vendettas which is even more off-topic and I have no intention of entering a slanging match. As you rightly say there are many other forums suited to some of the off-topic threads listed here.
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