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Post by Rob Moss on Feb 10, 2012 7:34:58 GMT
Singapore still leads to open questions but selling on ebay? Remeber you have to have a computer to sell on ebay and even a novice who had an episode in their posession can just type the name on the net and find out what it is and if we are looking for them. Yes, but you have to suspect that the episode may be missing before you check the title. As has been shown, some people still assume that the BBC has the full set, so why would they search..?
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 10, 2012 7:53:33 GMT
Singapore still leads to open questions but selling on ebay? Remeber you have to have a computer to sell on ebay and even a novice who had an episode in their posession can just type the name on the net and find out what it is and if we are looking for them. It is possible to log into Singapore's ebay site, but I have not seen a 16mm print for sale in that country in a while. All the stuff I find there nowadays are DVDs of oriental programs and VHS tapes.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Feb 10, 2012 11:43:12 GMT
There's little I can add to what's already been said; but I just sent the chippy in question a very polite PM in which I asked him straight out if he was telling the truth. It wasn't accusatory at all, just to the point. His reply was that it was just a wind up, and he didn't have either episode.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Feb 10, 2012 11:44:26 GMT
He brought this potential lead to a fellow named Ash Stewart. After questioning by Ash, the man came clean and admitted to not having any missing episodes. Ash is pretty awesome at demolishing rumours. Your cheque's in the post, Brad! (By the way; good to see you back round these parts...)
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 10, 2012 16:08:28 GMT
Singapore still leads to open questions but selling on ebay? Remeber you have to have a computer to sell on ebay and even a novice who had an episode in their posession can just type the name on the net and find out what it is and if we are looking for them. It is possible to log into Singapore's ebay site, but I have not seen a 16mm print for sale in that country in a while. All the stuff I find there nowadays are DVDs of oriental programs and VHS tapes. I think there are a lot of loose ends with Singapore, I wouldn't bother with ebay for there. As for other places as in the case of this post Mr. Burnett and others do exist and are not going to sell on ebay and don't know what they have. Then their are others who hoax to scam on ebay as in the case of this Web of Fear issue.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Feb 11, 2012 9:12:57 GMT
Ash is pretty awesome at demolishing rumours. Your cheque's in the post, Brad! (By the way; good to see you back round these parts...) Been busy, had three kids since we last spoke! Plus twins are very time consuming...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 10:32:16 GMT
What type of investigation did you do Mr Bignall how was it confirmed as a hoax?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 11, 2012 10:53:18 GMT
What type of investigation did you do Mr Bignall how was it confirmed as a hoax? I didn't do any investigation. As already explained above, the poster was contacted and immediately confirmed that he was just winding the person on the forum up.
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 11, 2012 20:32:10 GMT
As for other places as in the case of this post Mr. Burnett and others do exist and are not going to sell on ebay and don't know what they have. If they ever do sell, then the most difficult question to answer is where do they sell. At the film collector forums I have been to on the internet, the collectors posting there seem to know that Doctor Who is missing episodes when the subject is brought up. For all these other collectors to be flying under the radar and not knowing what they have is somewhat strange. One would think that collectors would try to get as much information as possible about the films they own to ascertain the potential value of each print. With a tool like the internet at a collector's disposal, I'm surprised they don't use that for just a reference point. I mean, if I did a search for Doctor Who with the titles The Power of the Daleks, The Macra Terror, or Fury from the Deep, I get back a bunch of links containing information about those stories, but it is also mentioned that they are missing. I guess this is a case of Murphy's Law. The message is out there, but others aren't in the right place at the right time to hear it.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 11, 2012 21:04:29 GMT
As for other places as in the case of this post Mr. Burnett and others do exist and are not going to sell on ebay and don't know what they have. If they ever do sell, then the most difficult question to answer is where do they sell. At the film collector forums I have been to on the internet, the collectors posting there seem to know that Doctor Who is missing episodes when the subject is brought up. For all these other collectors to be flying under the radar and not knowing what they have is somewhat strange. One would think that collectors would try to get as much information as possible about the films they own to ascertain the potential value of each print. With a tool like the internet at a collector's disposal, I'm surprised they don't use that for just a reference point. I mean, if I did a search for Doctor Who with the titles The Power of the Daleks, The Macra Terror, or Fury from the Deep, I get back a bunch of links containing information about those stories, but it is also mentioned that they are missing. I guess this is a case of Murphy's Law. The message is out there, but others aren't in the right place at the right time to hear it. And look at where the two most recent recoveries came from !
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Post by John Green on Feb 11, 2012 21:11:54 GMT
Yep,you could look at the extent to which older people aren't on t Net.,and there's still that point about 'knowing' that the b&w Whos survive because there are DOZENS of those serials on DVD.
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Post by John Green on Feb 11, 2012 21:14:44 GMT
Of course,if you've got an odd episode of Invasion on 16mm,a quick check on Amazon shows that the serial is for sale from a fiver or so.You'd need to read the small print to learn more.
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 11, 2012 22:02:51 GMT
Yep,you could look at the extent to which older people aren't on t Net.,and there's still that point about 'knowing' that the b&w Whos survive because there are DOZENS of those serials on DVD. I never thought about the release of Hartnell and Troughton stories on video could lead to that result. If a collector sees some of them for sale, he could think the BBC have all the prints. I certainly hope collectors don't throw away missing material because they believe it is worthless.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 11, 2012 22:24:11 GMT
Good point. What if someone had prints of Episodes 1 or 4 of The Invasion.....
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 11, 2012 22:59:31 GMT
Good point. What if someone had prints of Episodes 1 or 4 of The Invasion..... Exactly, imagine how may losses we have also by just people not even looking and tossing them out.
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