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Post by Jeff Leach on Apr 6, 2011 21:19:37 GMT
Good detailed episode guide This Is Tom Jones Episode Guide compiled by The Classic TV Archive with contributions by: Rina Fox references: TV Guide Library of Congress (telnet://locis.loc.gov) Internet Movie Database (http://us.imdb.com) UCLA Film and Television Archive ctva.biz/UK/ITC/ThisIsTomJones.htmAnd an interesting comment near the bottom of the page !From: Ivor Allison Sent: 21 September 2010 To: ctva@hotmail.co.uk As far as I know, having been a student of ATV and UK ITV all my life and a professional cameraman of 35 years, and having worked at what is now BBC TV Elstree - ALL absolutely ALL "This is TOM JONES" were recorded at ATV Elstree studio D - the audience studio in both 625 line PAL and for the USA 525 line NTSC . If you look all the directors are ATV staffers of the time - Jon Schofield ,etc. Having actually worked in that studio the shows were recorded once in 625 and then again in 525 - colour conversion to enable a single 525 line recording did not exist - for the record the cameras were the excellent Philips PC 60;s' [Ivor Allison]
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Post by Matthew North on Apr 7, 2011 5:15:38 GMT
What's really interesting it's The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown appearance. Unfortunately, in ITN database this episode not listed. This Is Tom Jones (possibly Taped in London) 14Mar1969 ABC Fri (rerun 21Aug69)
Tom sings, "Little Green Apples", "Work Song", "Sixteen Tons", Mary sings "The Puppy Song". Georgia sings "If You Go Away". Paul sings, "This Has Got to Be the Life" and "Goodnight, My Love". Crazy World of Arthur Brown performs "Fire". Tom and Paul do a medley of "Mack the Knife", "He's Got the Whole World In His Hands", "When the Saints Go Marching In", "What'd I Say?", "Oh, Lonesome Me" and "Jambalaya".Me to, Im pretty sure arthurs peformances do exist, I know Arthur has a VHS of it somewhere and a clip of it was used on that one hit wonders TV Appearence ages ago, it might just be that it doesnt exist in the uk.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 7, 2011 7:23:00 GMT
Thanks Jeff and Matthew.
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Post by Tom Alger on Apr 8, 2011 3:01:45 GMT
Suffice to say, lostshows is fairly accurate on missing episodes - meant to be 44 of these. I have located 55 episodes in the LOC (TRANSCRIBING NUMBERS NOW....) and UCLA has one - the Pilot. I looked over the "THIS IS... TOM JONES" episode list on lostshows.com. These two episodes caught my attention: 19.07.70 with The Mike Sammes Singers, The Norman Maen Dancers, Sue & Sonny, Blue Mink, Jack E. Leonard, Juliet Prowse, Jack Wild (missing) 26.07.70 with The Mike Sammes Singers, The Norman Maen Dancers, Sue & Sonny, Lana Cantrell, Joel Grey, Brasil '66 (missing) These are actually Engelbert Humperdinck episodes. Also from lostshows.com: THE ENGELBERT HUMPERDINCK SHOW 19.07.70 with The Irving Davies Dancers, The Mike Sammes Singers, Jack Parnell and his Orchestra, Blue Mink, Jack E. Leonard, Juliet Prowse, Jack Wild (missing) 26.07.70 with The Irving Davies Dancers, The Mike Sammes Singers, Jack Parnell and his Orchestra, Lana Cantrell, Joel Grey, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 (missing) While the series regulars are different, the guest lists and air dates are identical. I can verify from U.S. listings that these are Engelbert Humperdinck episodes: Blue Mink, Jack E. Leonard, Juliet Prowse, Jack Wild were guests on Engelbert Humperdinck (April 29, 1970 on ABC-TV). Lana Cantrell, Joel Grey, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 guested on Engelbert Humperdinck (March 25, 1970 on ABC-TV). Please see scan. So that's 2 episodes lostshows.com should take off their Tom Jones list.
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Post by Tom Alger on Apr 8, 2011 6:14:53 GMT
I can verify from U.S. listings that these are Engelbert Humperdinck episodes: Lana Cantrell, Joel Grey, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 guested on Engelbert Humperdinck (March 25, 1970 on ABC-TV). Please see scan. Here's the scan for the Lana Cantrell, Joel Grey, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 episode. Attachments:
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Post by Tom Alger on Apr 8, 2011 6:33:14 GMT
I can verify from U.S. listings that these are Engelbert Humperdinck episodes: Blue Mink, Jack E. Leonard, Juliet Prowse, Jack Wild were guests on Engelbert Humperdinck (April 29, 1970 on ABC-TV). Attachments:
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 8, 2011 7:16:10 GMT
Tom! Thank you lots! There were five episodes I hadn't cross-referenced for various reasons - that was two of them!
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 8, 2011 10:47:01 GMT
AMENDED figures (with the maths)
TITJ, 64 shows. 42 (not 44 as stated on the website lostshows.com) are missing. The Library of Congress have 59. The ""Pilot"" episode is NOT missing. Therefore, LOC have 58 episodes as relevant. This leaves a definite 36 ""missing episodes"" in the Library of Congress.
My best guess on the episodes that the LOC have is 9 from season one, and all from the last two seasons. This educated guess work comes from production numbers where I have established that 7 in the LOC are either definitely season one, and two do not tally with any other numbers. Again, subtract the pilot/first episode, leaves 8.
With cross-referencing, lostshows lists an (amended) figure of 12 missing from season one, and combined total of 30 from seasons two and three.
With 14 (not including pilot/first episode) broadcast in season one, 12 missing, and 9 in the LOC, the likelihood is about 6 or so missing episodes are in the LOC....which would add up to my original estimate of 36.
It would be easier just to look at all the episodes!!!!
But to recap, that's 36 episodes I reckon that exist in LOC that are listed as missing in lostshows.com.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 13:00:46 GMT
It's an interesting definition of "missing" though as those LOC copies will almost certainly be the US NTSC versions (with probably different camera angles and not as seen in the UK, therefore not missing UK shows as such). I would guess too that the rights situation to the US versions will be different, not coming under the same agreement (or even ownership) as the UK-transmitted shows.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Apr 9, 2011 15:11:51 GMT
IIRC the DVD has an extra feature where you can switch between camera angles of the PAL and NTSC recordings on some performances
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 15:50:13 GMT
That's an interesting feature! I suppose it proves though that the rights are the same for both versions. Are they drastically different angles, Peter?
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Post by Peter Stirling on Apr 9, 2011 17:25:18 GMT
That's an interesting feature! I suppose it proves though that the rights are the same for both versions. Are they drastically different angles, Peter? Yes for the Stevie Wonder edition at least, the British and American tapes both survive in colour. AFAIK For the American version, the idea is ... Tom singing to TV audience while in the British one the idea is... Tom singing to the studio audience.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2011 8:28:37 GMT
Thanks for the info, Peter. It proves there were two versions shot (and simultaneously as well). Just out of interest, do you have the sets? Can you confirm if they've been either letterboxed or filmised? I understood they were letterboxed, which was one of the reasons I held off buying myself.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Apr 10, 2011 9:59:41 GMT
Thanks for the info, Peter. It proves there were two versions shot (and simultaneously as well). Just out of interest, do you have the sets? Can you confirm if they've been either letterboxed or filmised? I understood they were letterboxed, which was one of the reasons I held off buying myself. The DVD sets are as is- no letterbox,widescreen or filmised stuff. Apart from the edition featuring The Who which only survives as a B/W TR. Rumour has it, The Who themselves borrowed a master tape and it was never seen again. Also be warned, these are not complete shows (which ran 60 minutes with commercials) but presumably for rights reasons and maybe stale humour skits? they have been cut down to about 25 mins in some cases.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2011 10:29:34 GMT
Thanks Peter. Not letterboxed? That's good but contrary to what i'd heard. So, from what you say, these are the shells of whole shows (albeit chopped down) rather than a continuous compilation stream, which was what I thought it was. Just shows you can't trust reviews! Do you have a link to where I can buy online?
By the way, it's interesting what you say about the Who appearance only existing as a b/w t/r as I have seen a copy of the appearance (Pinball Wizzard) as b/w VT! So it's out there somewhere - possibly sourced from Pete Townshend's official download site, from what you say!
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