|
|
Post by shellyharman67 on May 10, 2014 15:17:23 GMT
I said "If this year is like last year" :-) Anyway - I know nothing. I'm just giving it until the end of the year before I go back to my "pre-October-2013" mode of thinking. Richard There are a few that try to make us have to justify what we think ! I agree with you 100% Richard ! Tho we might be a few, i can live with that  |
|
|
|
Post by stephenwit1 on May 10, 2014 16:59:57 GMT
Untill next year in GALLIFRY!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by shellyharman67 on May 10, 2014 17:32:19 GMT
Untill next year in GALLIFRY!!! Have a funny feeling this could run and run for a few years yet ! I hope not, but that depends on a few people. |
|
|
|
Post by alf hughes on May 10, 2014 18:12:17 GMT
I live in hope but the at the end of the day that's all we can do! I will be overjoyed if they turn up but if they never do I will be always hoping they do!
|
|
|
|
Post by lousingh on May 10, 2014 18:42:02 GMT
along similar lines I know of an unissued album by a well known band that fans have wanted released for decades ! from time to time rumours abound that 'something' is happening....only for everything to go quiet again...then later more rumours, then nothing the hold up in this case I know is down to MONEY - arguments over royalties, percentages, and legal issues about residues etc....with some ex-members of the band having songs on the album - members who are still not on good terms with other members etc, thus very delicate negotiations are required and nothing moves quickly in legal circles (plus the record company changed hands too and new owners and their legal bods are now in the frame too - they need to be convinced that a 'market' exists for an 'out of time' vintage album release) thus the much sought after by fans unissued album remains firmly 'in the vaults' for now....yawn !! so it might well be the case here that any number of issues that we don't know about may apply re this 'omnirumour' thing too - and it could take years to finally resolve things if a number of parties with vested interests are involved (BBC, Phil Morris company, Private collectors, etc) so we will just have to wait & see - IF missing episodes have been recovered these parties are all aware that in the case of Dr.Who alone those episodes are of great value, which should at least keep the negotiations going as at some point people involved WILL want some financial reward, we can be certain of that (& DVD sales of the two 'lost' Troughton stories recovered prove the awaiting market is there) we just aren't informed enough to talk in 'absolutes' re whether the omnirumour is true or not - but so far the notable lack of FIRM outright 100% denials would suggest that 'something' may indeed be going on...(??) At the risk of going way off topic - which group is this? I like my music trivia, and couldn't think who this would be. Cheers!! Had the session tapes and then an authorised re-release not happened, "Smile" by The Beach Boys would have been at the top of this list. I know (as in, 'friends of mine have allowed me to listen to their copies of their bootlegs') of one by Neil Young, the infamous "The Sicilian Defence" by the Alan Parsons Project (was on YouTube last night if you want to take a look [track titles are each of the first 6 full moves of the Classical Variation]), and one by Prince that the label rejected. Heck, "Chinese Democracy" by Guns & Roses would have made this list 5 years ago. Yes, I know you rumour was a joke, but it could be true. That's my point. Some of us have listened to music others have not, just as some of us have seen extant material of Doctor Who which are no longer in the BBC archives. |
|
|
|
Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 10, 2014 19:49:49 GMT
Lou, do you really believe that there are individuals out there have access to and have viewed material currently known to be missing? And in what context?
|
|
|
|
Post by garysrothwellx on May 10, 2014 23:00:18 GMT
At the risk of going way off topic - which group is this? I like my music trivia, and couldn't think who this would be. Cheers!! Had the session tapes and then an authorised re-release not happened, "Smile" by The Beach Boys would have been at the top of this list. I know (as in, 'friends of mine have allowed me to listen to their copies of their bootlegs') of one by Neil Young, the infamous "The Sicilian Defence" by the Alan Parsons Project (was on YouTube last night if you want to take a look [track titles are each of the first 6 full moves of the Classical Variation]), and one by Prince that the label rejected. Heck, "Chinese Democracy" by Guns & Roses would have made this list 5 years ago. Yes, I know you rumour was a joke, but it could be true. That's my point. Some of us have listened to music others have not, just as some of us have seen extant material of Doctor Who which are no longer in the BBC archives. Thanks Lou - i will sleep easier now ;o) And yes, I had the Chinese Democracy Demos years before the album came out. If only some lost TV as well! |
|
|
|
Post by Brad Phipps on May 11, 2014 8:02:21 GMT
When PM makes a statement something like, "I have no more, really this is not like my "THE END" statement, this is for real, really I know I lied before, but I mean it this time, REALLY, THE END, not kidding". Of course everything would be in capitals and the grammer woyld stink. If he has no more then why doesn't he make this kind of statement? No the omni is alive and well. Thats the thing Jeff. Ongoing could take many many years ! If ever there is an end to it  Fans who appear to be "much closer to the truth" than Phil Morris would claim he's lying. Levine would shoot down anything that doesn't agree with what he believes in. Plus if by fluke he finds something ten seconds after posting the above statement he's gonna be branded a liar from then on. So why bother? |
|
|
|
Post by shellyharman67 on May 11, 2014 8:36:47 GMT
Thats the thing Jeff. Ongoing could take many many years ! If ever there is an end to it Fans who appear to be "much closer to the truth" than Phil Morris would claim he's lying. Levine would shoot down anything that doesn't agree with what he believes in. Plus if by fluke he finds something ten seconds after posting the above statement he's gonna be branded a liar from then on. So why bother? True brad ! If he found the lot today ! How many would still call him a hoarder ? Damned now whatever happens |
|
|
|
Post by stevehoare61 on May 11, 2014 10:49:38 GMT
Unfortunately this is what happens when people call wolf..This is what happens when you dont tell the truth.PM has kind of created this little Monster all by himself but to be honest, even if he did, by a fluke, find it all and get called a hoarder, I cant see him caring one jot what we think. He'd be able to prove the circumstances anyway, hes going to come out of this very wealthy if he has found all this material,which he entirely deserves and Im sure a load of sad old gits like some of us, arent going to stop him sleeping at night.I just wish theyd make a 'definitive'statement, one way or another, instead of all this buggering about.
|
|
|
|
Post by shellyharman67 on May 11, 2014 11:18:54 GMT
Unfortunately this is what happens when people call wolf..This is what happens when you dont tell the truth.PM has kind of created this little Monster all by himself but to be honest, even if he did, by a fluke, find it all and get called a hoarder, I cant see him caring one jot what we think. He'd be able to prove the circumstances anyway, hes going to come out of this very wealthy if he has found all this material,which he entirely deserves and Im sure a load of sad old gits like some of us, arent going to stop him sleeping at night.I just wish theyd make a 'definitive'statement, one way or another, instead of all this buggering about. He of course will loose no sleep ! When you look mat him all i see is $ ! Nuff said ! |
|
|
|
Post by shellyharman67 on May 11, 2014 11:39:59 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Alan Jeffries on May 11, 2014 11:56:42 GMT
I don't think PM has in any way created this monster, unless of course, he has several bogus accounts and is stirring things up. The most vocal/passionate/desperate people on various forums have done that with the Omnirumour.
Do you think that he visits an archive sits among the cans opening each one there and then looking at the leader, with a notebook at hand writing down and then tweeting what each one is?
It's more likely he's the frontman negotiating any returns while preserving that archives material. Finds, are probably a by product which are then treated in whatever way they need to be returned to their proper place. That's how I see his day to day job working.
If he were to say 'Oh by the way I found several episode of Who.......' forums would light up demanding what? when is the release? taking too long. come on.......come on..........come on...... he cannot win whatever he does. I don't know if there are more episodes to come, what I do know is that I can watch more episodes because of what he has done.
I am a Doctor Who fan. I have my best friends because of it. But in the end, something like this forum is a tiny niche of what is already a small niche and I think that, speaking generally before flaming starts, it sometimes loses perspective.
DW is the best serviced DVD range in the world. All episodes restored to their best possible quality, documentaries, commentaries and new special effects amongst everything else. No other range has ever been done like this and yet there is still a minority that throw dummies, stamp feet and bite the hands that feed.
I'm no one special, I have no insider knowledge, but I am prepared to wait for outcomes. If the result is, no more, then I will still be thankful for the nine. But please let PM do his job well than at half-cocked.
Alan
|
|
|
|
Post by shellyharman67 on May 11, 2014 12:02:00 GMT
I don't think PM has in any way created this monster, unless of course, he has several bogus accounts and is stirring things up. The most vocal/passionate/desperate people on various forums have done that with the Omnirumour. Do you think that he visits an archive sits among the cans opening each one there and then looking at the leader, with a notebook at hand writing down and then tweeting what each one is? It's more likely he's the frontman negotiating any returns while preserving that archives material. Finds, are probably a by product which are then treated in whatever way they need to be returned to their proper place. That's how I see his day to day job working. If he were to say 'Oh by the way I found several episode of Who.......' forums would light up demanding what? when is the release? taking too long. come on.......come on..........come on...... he cannot win whatever he does. I don't know if there are more episodes to come, what I do know is that I can watch more episodes because of what he has done. I am a Doctor Who fan. I have my best friends because of it. But in the end, something like this forum is a tiny niche of what is already a small niche and I think that, speaking generally before flaming starts, it sometimes loses perspective. DW is the best serviced DVD range in the world. All episodes restored to their best possible quality, documentaries, commentaries and new special effects amongst everything else. No other range has ever been done like this and yet there is still a minority that throw dummies, stamp feet and bite the hands that feed. I'm no one special, I have no insider knowledge, but I am prepared to wait for outcomes. If the result is, no more, then I will still be thankful for the nine. But please let PM do his job well than at half-cocked. Alan Well said ! It is a huge money earner as we know ! And in an ideal world things would work quicker ! We live in a money driven world ! I can wait and wait if need be. Even if thats when im in the next world |
|
|
|
Post by Robert Manners on May 12, 2014 2:54:08 GMT
I said "If this year is like last year" :-) Anyway - I know nothing. I'm just giving it until the end of the year before I go back to my "pre-October-2013" mode of thinking. Richard Its only really over once there is nothing else to find anywhere, regardless of who finds it of course. Since missing episodes are only know to exist when found then we will never really know when everything still existing has been turned up of course! Hope that makes sense to one and all. |
|
