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Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 9, 2014 6:08:39 GMT
Now, that is the comment of the day!  Trouble is what else can one talk about on here that has not already been covered a thousand times ? And Brad is very right I think you'll find it's called 'arguing into a vacuum'... |
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Post by stevehoare61 on May 9, 2014 6:28:36 GMT
Its very simple....people will admit its over, when Phil issues a straightforward, categorical denial of any more finds, rather than yet more inconclusive statements, which were picked apart in seconds by some fans on various boards.
We keep being told what a very inteligent man he is, and I dont doubt it for 1 second, hes had us all dangling for years now, he knows exactly what will end all this . So why not just do it?
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Post by shellyharman67 on May 9, 2014 6:33:37 GMT
Trouble is what else can one talk about on here that has not already been covered a thousand times ? And Brad is very right I think you'll find it's called 'arguing into a vacuum'... lol Jaspal. But its true All thats left is the weather lol |
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Post by shellyharman67 on May 9, 2014 6:34:37 GMT
Its very simple....people will admit its over, when Phil issues a straightforward, categorical denial of any more finds, rather than yet more inconclusive statements, which were picked apart in seconds by some fans on various boards. We keep being told what a very inteligent man he is, and I dont doubt it for 1 second, hes had us all dangling for years now, he knows exactly what will end all this . So why not just do it? He would make a damn good politician Steve ! Never a straight honest answer lol  |
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Post by stevehoare61 on May 9, 2014 6:51:48 GMT
Yes and thats the very odd thing Shelley, you put your finger on it....Never a straight honest answer.... why not? We're not talking State Secrets here or the end of the world as we know it, we're talking about some old TV prints.
So why arent we getting a straight forward answer to a straight forward question? If its all done and over, so be it.
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Post by shellyharman67 on May 9, 2014 7:27:45 GMT
Yes and thats the very odd thing Shelley, you put your finger on it....Never a straight honest answer.... why not? We're not talking State Secrets here or the end of the world as we know it, we're talking about some old TV prints. So why arent we getting a straight forward answer to a straight forward question? If its all done and over, so be it. They keep saying its ongoing ! Well that could take centuries because of private collectors !! So cash is at the heart of this  Negotiations and like...... Why not say we have x, y @ z. And stop all this what do they have talk. It wont stop no matter how many posts are taken down and being told by a, b @ c to move on ! |
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Post by Patrick Coles on May 9, 2014 9:31:09 GMT
along similar lines I know of an unissued album by a well known band that fans have wanted released for decades !
from time to time rumours abound that 'something' is happening....only for everything to go quiet again...then later more rumours, then nothing
the hold up in this case I know is down to MONEY - arguments over royalties, percentages, and legal issues about residues etc....with some ex-members of the band having songs on the album - members who are still not on good terms with other members etc, thus very delicate negotiations are required and nothing moves quickly in legal circles (plus the record company changed hands too and new owners and their legal bods are now in the frame too - they need to be convinced that a 'market' exists for an 'out of time' vintage album release)
thus the much sought after by fans unissued album remains firmly 'in the vaults' for now....yawn !!
so it might well be the case here that any number of issues that we don't know about may apply re this 'omnirumour' thing too - and it could take years to finally resolve things if a number of parties with vested interests are involved (BBC, Phil Morris company, Private collectors, etc) so we will just have to wait & see
- IF missing episodes have been recovered these parties are all aware that in the case of Dr.Who alone those episodes are of great value, which should at least keep the negotiations going as at some point people involved WILL want some financial reward, we can be certain of that (& DVD sales of the two 'lost' Troughton stories recovered prove the awaiting market is there)
we just aren't informed enough to talk in 'absolutes' re whether the omnirumour is true or not - but so far the notable lack of FIRM outright 100% denials would suggest that 'something' may indeed be going on...(??)
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Post by James Mcgrath on May 9, 2014 10:09:56 GMT
It's not over until a proper and detailed account of how the episodes were recovered has been given.
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Post by brianfretwell on May 9, 2014 10:52:03 GMT
And when ELO pops up to sing their hit "It's Over". Well you've got to have a bit of celebration either way.
Of course it would help to know what the "It" in the post title meant :- The current search or if all episode that are hoped to be in collector's hands have been found or proved to be non-existant
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Post by Simon Jailler on May 9, 2014 11:06:22 GMT
And when ELO pops up to sing their hit "It's Over". Well you've got to have a bit of celebration either way. Of course it would help to know what the "It" in the post title meant :- The current search or if all episode that are hoped to be in collector's hands have been found or proved to be non-existant That's a totally tear jerking, break-up song - sob  Perhaps that is the right choice............. |
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Post by shellyharman67 on May 9, 2014 12:51:11 GMT
It's not over until a proper and detailed account of how the episodes were recovered has been given. And we wont get it James ! Not for a long while. if ever ! |
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Post by garysrothwellx on May 9, 2014 16:15:52 GMT
along similar lines I know of an unissued album by a well known band that fans have wanted released for decades ! from time to time rumours abound that 'something' is happening....only for everything to go quiet again...then later more rumours, then nothing the hold up in this case I know is down to MONEY - arguments over royalties, percentages, and legal issues about residues etc....with some ex-members of the band having songs on the album - members who are still not on good terms with other members etc, thus very delicate negotiations are required and nothing moves quickly in legal circles (plus the record company changed hands too and new owners and their legal bods are now in the frame too - they need to be convinced that a 'market' exists for an 'out of time' vintage album release) thus the much sought after by fans unissued album remains firmly 'in the vaults' for now....yawn !! so it might well be the case here that any number of issues that we don't know about may apply re this 'omnirumour' thing too - and it could take years to finally resolve things if a number of parties with vested interests are involved (BBC, Phil Morris company, Private collectors, etc) so we will just have to wait & see - IF missing episodes have been recovered these parties are all aware that in the case of Dr.Who alone those episodes are of great value, which should at least keep the negotiations going as at some point people involved WILL want some financial reward, we can be certain of that (& DVD sales of the two 'lost' Troughton stories recovered prove the awaiting market is there) we just aren't informed enough to talk in 'absolutes' re whether the omnirumour is true or not - but so far the notable lack of FIRM outright 100% denials would suggest that 'something' may indeed be going on...(??) At the risk of going way off topic - which group is this? I like my music trivia, and couldn't think who this would be. Cheers!! |
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Post by George D on May 9, 2014 16:37:42 GMT
Has anyone noticed that the inner circle guys have been missing here for a while?
I'm wondering if they are involved with something or have lost interest in researching recovery options here.
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Post by Jeff Haynes on May 9, 2014 16:55:43 GMT
When PM makes a statement something like, "I have no more, really this is not like my "THE END" statement, this is for real, really I know I lied before, but I mean it this time, REALLY, THE END, not kidding". Of course everything would be in capitals and the grammer woyld stink. If he has no more then why doesn't he make this kind of statement? No the omni is alive and well.
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Post by shellyharman67 on May 9, 2014 17:01:21 GMT
When PM makes a statement something like, "I have no more, really this is not like my "THE END" statement, this is for real, really I know I lied before, but I mean it this time, REALLY, THE END, not kidding". Of course everything would be in capitals and the grammer woyld stink. If he has no more then why doesn't he make this kind of statement? No the omni is alive and well. Thats the thing Jeff. Ongoing could take many many years ! If ever there is an end to it |
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Negotiations and like...... Why not say we have x, y @ z. And stop all this what do they have talk. It wont stop no matter how many posts are taken down and being told by a, b @ c to move on !
