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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 21, 2014 7:17:36 GMT
Yes, the longer anything stays in limbo its making nothing for anybody. Am sure negotiating is going on big time behind the scenes. The money would go into further searches. Unless a mother load is found and no rush to do this !
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Post by scotttelfer on Feb 21, 2014 10:25:59 GMT
Yes, the longer anything stays in limbo its making nothing for anybody. Am sure negotiating is going on big time behind the scenes. The money would go into further searches. Unless a mother load is found and no rush to do this ! But there are no negotiations, we know that much. If there were we wouldn't have Ian Levine and Steve Roberts going around saying that Phil Morris is hoarding episodes, because at least one of them would almost certainly be silenced and would be unable to say something so close to the truth. Besides, what sort of negotiations would they be? He'd have to hand them over straight away if he's recovered them, at the very least to allow the BBC to make a digital copy.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 21, 2014 10:52:34 GMT
Yes, the longer anything stays in limbo its making nothing for anybody. Am sure negotiating is going on big time behind the scenes. The money would go into further searches. Unless a mother load is found and no rush to do this ! But there are no negotiations, we know that much. If there were we wouldn't have Ian Levine and Steve Roberts going around saying that Phil Morris is hoarding episodes, because at least one of them would almost certainly be silenced and would be unable to say something so close to the truth. Besides, what sort of negotiations would they be? He'd have to hand them over straight away if he's recovered them, at the very least to allow the BBC to make a digital copy. I believe there is more.My opinion thats all. And even tho no talks officially, there is a lot we dont know !
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Post by scotttelfer on Feb 21, 2014 14:31:24 GMT
But there are no negotiations, we know that much. If there were we wouldn't have Ian Levine and Steve Roberts going around saying that Phil Morris is hoarding episodes, because at least one of them would almost certainly be silenced and would be unable to say something so close to the truth. Besides, what sort of negotiations would they be? He'd have to hand them over straight away if he's recovered them, at the very least to allow the BBC to make a digital copy. I believe there is more.My opinion thats all. And even tho no talks officially, there is a lot we dont know !
Not just no talks officially, no talks at all. The only person who knows the truth is Phillip Morris, that truth could be that there's another 80 episodes sitting there, or none at all. Only he knows. The BBC don't have anything, neither do the RT, if anyone has anything it is either private collectors or TIEA.
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Post by Alex Dering on Feb 21, 2014 14:49:42 GMT
If things are in limbo ... well, how long can they, reasonably, be expected to stay there? Whether PM has one, several, many or all episodes, how long would it take to reach the public? Something between one second and 4,000 years. Can someone intelligently narrow that field? Negotiations can only drag on for so long.
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Post by garysrothwellx on Feb 21, 2014 16:59:33 GMT
Tragically negotiations can last forever - just look at the world!! I dont see how anyone can estimate with any degree of accuracy. It's all based on way too many varaibles that we just have no insight into.
As we all see it, I am sure, if there are more, we'd expect them in no more than a year - and sure, i am very hopeful that we do - but really, that's all it is. Hope.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Feb 21, 2014 17:32:05 GMT
Any new announcements would logically be some time after the WOF DVD release surely,to maximize the sales of WOF?And if that's the case,how long would that have to be after the physical sales of EOTW so as to produce a ground-swell for the release digitally of further recoveries?For this strategy,the physical releases will be in print for several years and fans would be able to wait months while they come down in price,before they part with their cash,so further releases could be years down the line.But here's a thing-what if the BBC/PM suddenly decided to prematurely delete those physical releases,thus causing a scramble in the market,maximizing sales,and at the same time making fans buy the releases at a premium price?And after all that,THEN we might have further announcements?Scary isn't it?
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 21, 2014 18:37:25 GMT
Any new announcements would logically be some time after the WOF DVD release surely,to maximize the sales of WOF?And if that's the case,how long would that have to be after the physical sales of EOTW so as to produce a ground-swell for the release digitally of further recoveries?For this strategy,the physical releases will be in print for several years and fans would be able to wait months while they come down in price,before they part with their cash,so further releases could be years down the line.But here's a thing-what if the BBC/PM suddenly decided to prematurely delete those physical releases,thus causing a scramble in the market,maximizing sales,and at the same time making fans buy the releases at a premium price?And after all that,THEN we might have further announcements?Scary isn't it? I think Web sales and future I-Tunes releases dont clash in my opinion. Say they release 2 stories, a Tenner each ! Is not much is it ? And £17 for web. I hardly call that breaking the bank !
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 21, 2014 18:44:51 GMT
Any new announcements would logically be some time after the WOF DVD release surely,to maximize the sales of WOF?And if that's the case,how long would that have to be after the physical sales of EOTW so as to produce a ground-swell for the release digitally of further recoveries?For this strategy,the physical releases will be in print for several years and fans would be able to wait months while they come down in price,before they part with their cash,so further releases could be years down the line.But here's a thing-what if the BBC/PM suddenly decided to prematurely delete those physical releases,thus causing a scramble in the market,maximizing sales,and at the same time making fans buy the releases at a premium price?And after all that,THEN we might have further announcements?Scary isn't it? Well, I don't see them announcing a find concerning episode 3 of The Web of Fear anytime soon. That might anger people who bought the DVD with the recon. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 21, 2014 18:48:49 GMT
Any new announcements would logically be some time after the WOF DVD release surely,to maximize the sales of WOF?And if that's the case,how long would that have to be after the physical sales of EOTW so as to produce a ground-swell for the release digitally of further recoveries?For this strategy,the physical releases will be in print for several years and fans would be able to wait months while they come down in price,before they part with their cash,so further releases could be years down the line.But here's a thing-what if the BBC/PM suddenly decided to prematurely delete those physical releases,thus causing a scramble in the market,maximizing sales,and at the same time making fans buy the releases at a premium price?And after all that,THEN we might have further announcements?Scary isn't it? Well, I don't see them announcing a find concerning episode 3 of The Web of Fear anytime soon. That might anger people who bought the DVD with the recon. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) If he has it which is doubtful, it would not be top of the list ! A double dip so soon would not go down well. Plus it would kill sales of the recon !
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Post by Simon Collis on Feb 23, 2014 20:03:03 GMT
If there are negotiations going on, I expect they are likely to be with the archives that PM wants to get access to in order to search.
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 23, 2014 20:21:24 GMT
Well, I don't see them announcing a find concerning episode 3 of The Web of Fear anytime soon. That might anger people who bought the DVD with the recon. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) If he has it which is doubtful, it would not be top of the list ! A double dip so soon would not go down well. Plus it would kill sales of the recon ! I am guessing there are still more places to search. Phil Morris' search has produced a find that the BBC was unable to locate. I am hoping he might be able to find a copy of episode 3 someplace else.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 23, 2014 21:09:02 GMT
If he has it which is doubtful, it would not be top of the list ! A double dip so soon would not go down well. Plus it would kill sales of the recon ! I am guessing there are still more places to search. Phil Morris' search has produced a find that the BBC was unable to locate. I am hoping he might be able to find a copy of episode 3 someplace else. It would be a gem if he did. But they could not say so, so soon after web has only just came out ! We are going to get this scenario where every event people will say its gonna be now that they say something ! I cant see anything till end of the year ish ,if at all !
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Post by George D on Feb 24, 2014 1:58:45 GMT
I think Paul said that pm was not planning on releasing until the hunt was over but I'm not seeing how the hunt could ever end.
At any rate, i am giving this another year or two but i agree that i think either a blanket negotiation has been made or it hasn't started yet.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 24, 2014 6:41:02 GMT
I think Paul said that pm was not planning on releasing until the hunt was over but I'm not seeing how the hunt could ever end. At any rate, i am giving this another year or two but i agree that i think either a blanket negotiation has been made or it hasn't started yet. I dont think he would risk leaving the cans for a year or two without being restored ! Surely if from Africa, the optimum conditions would not of been in force ! So vinegar syndrome would be the problem, along with the other usual ageing problems. He would be stupid and ignorant if he did this !
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