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Post by Ant Harvison - WIPED NEWS on Dec 21, 2013 20:44:41 GMT
Glad I didn't get a ticket then! What a damp squib  I enjoyed both sessions  Just because someone doesn't say that dozens of episodes of Dr Who have come back from Timbukthree doesn't mean it wasn't a good event. I was more referring to the lack of announcements pertaining to any solid recoveries. I think we are all very tired of the Who omni-rumour but now it seems that's been extended to almost all vintage TV! I wasn't expecting too much at this point, but as the event was an anniversary one, and billed as featuring exciting news, I guess I expected something - maybe a Dad's Army announcement, or Steptoe, or OOTU. |
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Post by felixdembinski on Dec 21, 2013 20:46:26 GMT
This is the first year for a long time that MBW hasn't shown anything that I'd be interested in seeing. I've only been to one previous event in 2012, I've only been interested in older television shows for a couple of years now, but I've seen a list of what has previously been shown, and with episodes of Out of the Unknown, The Wednesday Play, Thirty Minute Theatre, A for Andromeda, Dr Who and many other shows I'd love to see in full being shown, I'd hoped that this year there'd be something good being shown, but its mainly comedy and music shows being shown, and those are the few genres of programming that I have got better since the golden years of television, drama and documentary have on the other hand got much worse.
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Post by John Wall on Dec 21, 2013 20:55:25 GMT
I enjoyed both sessions Just because someone doesn't say that dozens of episodes of Dr Who have come back from Timbukthree doesn't mean it wasn't a good event. I was more referring to the lack of announcements pertaining to any solid recoveries. I think we are all very tired of the Who omni-rumour but now it seems that's been extended to almost all vintage TV! I wasn't expecting too much at this point, but as the event was an anniversary one, and billed as featuring exciting news, I guess I expected something - maybe a Dad's Army announcement, or Steptoe, or OOTU. Unfortunately, recoveries can't be cued for anniversaries - they happen when they happen. |
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Dec 21, 2013 20:59:13 GMT
I was more referring to the lack of announcements pertaining to any solid recoveries. I think we are all very tired of the Who omni-rumour but now it seems that's been extended to almost all vintage TV! I wasn't expecting too much at this point, but as the event was an anniversary one, and billed as featuring exciting news, I guess I expected something - maybe a Dad's Army announcement, or Steptoe, or OOTU. Unfortunately, recoveries can't be cued for anniversaries - they happen when they happen. We were lucky to have Enemy of the World and Web of Fear for the anniversary. Though even that technically is untrue as the films were returned in April and May. |
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Dec 21, 2013 21:09:25 GMT
'Shipped' as in transported  Iirc, stuff was transported viz Zambia to Nigeria and then on to Liverpool. IF PM found stuff in other countries too, and there was a lot, it would make sense to get it all transported to one place, say Zambia, (where the search may have began and where he may have set up a base of operations) then from there to a place it could all be shipped out. So, from Zambia doesn't necessarily mean all the stuff that PM has, came from there, as we know some has come from Nigeria too. I'd be more than gobsmacked if in 10000 tins or more there was no more missing Who. I've said before now, that Paul V is suspiciously asbent from here these days. And possibly even commented "feverishly working away on restoring stuff" Maybe someone has time to have a look in the Africa threads, but I seem to recall Paul actually posting along the lines of "there is nothing there now" or w/e (re Zambia) Anyway, by the sounds of it, the future looks VERY bright indeed. Just a matter of IF the Who stuff is actually recoverable. Hello, Sorry but if you are going to actually quote me, please do us both a favour by not making up a quote (and therefore do not use quote marks). I have never said "feverishly working away on restoring stuff". There is nothing suspicious about my 'absence' from here at all. I'm very busy producing 'Stargazing Live', a series I've produced from series one onwards and it is a tough show to make with Christmas happening just a week or so before TX, hence not paying too much attention to the forums. However, I do still mod here of course so I at least get to read the latest nonsense, like today. I suspect Dick, in the doc has heard all the rumours and just pointed out what he'd heard. I don't know what was said as I was otherwise preoccupied although I did want to be there, but if John Wall is correct and Dick didn't say what has been attributed to him, then it just goes to prove how an innocent speculative comment gets twisted to give another meaning. Anyway, Phil did not bring back 10,000 film cans from Zambia or anywhere else. This is just speculation amongst fans which has become more and more exaggerated each time it's passed on to the next person. Regards, Paul |
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Post by John Wall on Dec 21, 2013 21:13:52 GMT
Paul, it's great to hear that you're gamefully employed producing archive material - which hopefully won't have to be "recovered" - for the future |
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Post by johnforbes on Dec 21, 2013 21:17:35 GMT
Iirc, stuff was transported viz Zambia to Nigeria and then on to Liverpool. IF PM found stuff in other countries too, and there was a lot, it would make sense to get it all transported to one place, say Zambia, (where the search may have began and where he may have set up a base of operations) then from there to a place it could all be shipped out. So, from Zambia doesn't necessarily mean all the stuff that PM has, came from there, as we know some has come from Nigeria too. I'd be more than gobsmacked if in 10000 tins or more there was no more missing Who. I've said before now, that Paul V is suspiciously asbent from here these days. And possibly even commented "feverishly working away on restoring stuff" Maybe someone has time to have a look in the Africa threads, but I seem to recall Paul actually posting along the lines of "there is nothing there now" or w/e (re Zambia) Anyway, by the sounds of it, the future looks VERY bright indeed. Just a matter of IF the Who stuff is actually recoverable. Hello, Sorry but if you are going to actually quote me, please do us both a favour by not making up a quote (and therefore do not use quote marks). I have never said "feverishly working away on restoring stuff". There is nothing suspicious about my 'absence' from here at all. I'm very busy producing 'Stargazing Live', a series I've produced from series one onwards and it is a tough show to make with Christmas happening just a week or so before TX, hence not paying too much attention to the forums. However, I do still mod here of course so I at least get to read the latest nonsense, like today. I suspect Dick, in the doc has heard all the rumours and just pointed out what he'd heard. I don't know what was said as I was otherwise preoccupied although I did want to be there, but if John Wall is correct and Dick didn't say what has been attributed to him, then it just goes to prove how an innocent speculative comment gets twisted to give another meaning. Anyway, Phil did not bring back 10,000 film cans from Zambia or anywhere else. This is just speculation amongst fans which has become more and more exaggerated each time it's passed on to the next person. Regards, Paul Hi The quote marks, were a quote from myself, as I seem to recall posting such a line a few weeks ago. Wasn't any intention to make it seem as if those were your words. As I wasn't at MBW, I said 10000 and Zambia, sourced from other posters on boards including this one. |
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Dec 21, 2013 21:20:44 GMT
Don't do it again.
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Post by Simeon Carter on Dec 21, 2013 21:34:59 GMT
The recovery from earlier this year was mentioned in the documentary and the work of Morris was discussed. In this documentary Fiddy suggested 1,000s if not 10,000s of cans had been returned but was vague. He also stated that everything currently recovered by TIEA has been returned.
The most interesting part (relating to Who) was that TIEA was formed from the original companies who distributed it. I had in the past seen that TIE was a distributer and wondered if there was a link. This means that Phil Morris can ask for programs back from Foreign Broadcasters with much more ease. (If any of that isn't right that will be my lack of understanding on what was said.)
But to be honest I was far more excited by some laugh out loud moments in 'Muskit and Dido' and some extracts from 'BBC-3' including 'Jet Crispin' and 'The War Game'. Loved this event just as much as the last and will be making it a regular attendance. Would love to get involved in the restoration process or even the work of companies such as TIEA but I really don't know where to start. These events are at least helping me widing my scope of old TV and are great fun.
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Post by Peter Ledwith on Dec 21, 2013 21:35:33 GMT
Feels like im back at school. Yes sir. I think net etiquette is a lost art these days. Huge respect for what you do paul. Not so sure at your way with words. Still, its your forum. |
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Post by John Wall on Dec 21, 2013 21:38:04 GMT
The recovery from earlier this year was mentioned in the documentary and the work of Morris was discussed. In this documentary Fiddy suggested 1,000s if not 10,000s of cans had been returned but was vague. He also stated that everything currently recovered by TIEA has been returned. The most interesting part (relating to Who) was that TIEA was formed from the original companies who distributed it. I had in the past seen that TIE was a distributer and wondered if there was a link. This means that Phil Morris can ask for programs back from Foreign Broadcasters with much more ease. (If any of that isn't right that will be my lack of understanding on what was said.) But to be honest I was far more excited by some laugh out loud moments in 'Muskit and Dido' and some extracts from 'BBC-3' including 'Jet Crispin' and 'The War Game'. Loved this event just as much as the last and will be making it a regular attendance. Would love to get involved in the restoration process or even the work of companies such as TIEA but I really don't know where to start. These events are at least helping me widing my scope of old TV and are great fun. No, TIEA wasn't "formed from the original companies". They're defunct so PM just "resurrected" the names. |
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Post by John Wall on Dec 21, 2013 21:39:32 GMT
Feels like im back at school. Yes sir. I think net etiquette is a lost art these days. Huge respect for what you do paul. Not so sure at your way with words. Still, its your forum. It was short and to the point. Paul could have been extremely rude about quotes from him being made up - but he wasn't. |
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Post by Simeon Carter on Dec 21, 2013 21:40:10 GMT
The recovery from earlier this year was mentioned in the documentary and the work of Morris was discussed. In this documentary Fiddy suggested 1,000s if not 10,000s of cans had been returned but was vague. He also stated that everything currently recovered by TIEA has been returned. The most interesting part (relating to Who) was that TIEA was formed from the original companies who distributed it. I had in the past seen that TIE was a distributer and wondered if there was a link. This means that Phil Morris can ask for programs back from Foreign Broadcasters with much more ease. (If any of that isn't right that will be my lack of understanding on what was said.) But to be honest I was far more excited by some laugh out loud moments in 'Muskit and Dido' and some extracts from 'BBC-3' including 'Jet Crispin' and 'The War Game'. Loved this event just as much as the last and will be making it a regular attendance. Would love to get involved in the restoration process or even the work of companies such as TIEA but I really don't know where to start. These events are at least helping me widing my scope of old TV and are great fun. No, TIEA wasn't "formed from the original companies". They're defunct so PM just "resurrected" the names. That's what confused me a bit but Fiddy definitely said about using that name to get things back. Wasn't sure how official that was. EDIT: And not to be irritating, or direct at anyone in particular but 'quote' is the verb and 'quotation' is the noun. |
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Post by David Robinson on Dec 21, 2013 21:41:23 GMT
Theres probably only 9999 cans returned so you can say you didn't lie again. After the Web denial is there any wonder people find your comments hard to believe without going over with a fine tooth comb? |
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Post by John Wall on Dec 21, 2013 21:42:05 GMT
I don't know the legalities - but it sounded cunning to me |
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Just because someone doesn't say that dozens of episodes of Dr Who have come back from Timbukthree doesn't mean it wasn't a good event.
