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Post by Greg H on Dec 23, 2013 13:19:53 GMT
If you're interested to know anything about the huge haul of very rare 'Non-Who' related television footage (99.99999%) recovered by Kaleidoscope during the production process, get along to the Kaleidoscope Facebook group to see a non-exhaustive list and hear more from Chris Perry. Previously missing material dating back to 1936 was included in the documentary and the footage that wasn't used will be available for all to see over the coming years at forthcoming Kaleidoscope events. I do understand the excitement generated by the stirling work of Phil Morris, but it appears to have been at the expense of common sense and good manners, which is a shame. Happy Christmas everyone. I'm sure 2014 will be a great year for fans of ALL missing television. Could you elaborate on that please? I hadn't heard a single peep about anything of that vintage returning!!! Very, very interesting stuff. I couldn't see the list on the facebook page, would you care to paste it here perhaps or is it that grin inducingly long
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Post by Tim Disney on Dec 23, 2013 14:08:48 GMT
Hi Greg, if you expand that first post on the FB page by Chris, the list is contained there. It isn't obvious at first glance. Here's a quote from part of the post with regards to the 1936 footage.
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Post by edhipkiss on Dec 23, 2013 15:21:25 GMT
Based on Greg, Lawrence and Simon's recommendation I've just ordered the first volume of Callan.
Must admit, this one's somehow passed me by. If it's half as good as the wonderful, non-missing "The Sandbaggers" (the best piece of classic TV I've seen) then I'll be very happy indeed!
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Dec 23, 2013 15:33:46 GMT
Based on Greg, Lawrence and Simon's recommendation I've just ordered the first volume of Callan. Must admit, this one's somehow passed me by. If it's half as good as the wonderful, non-missing "The Sandbaggers" (the best piece of classic TV I've seen) then I'll be very happy indeed! The first colour series for Thames is sensatonal as are subsequent series.The black and white ABC ( I think )series is great also but has some missing episodes.The entire series lives long in the memory and repeated viewings don't disappoint.
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Post by Greg H on Dec 23, 2013 15:34:02 GMT
Hi Greg, if you expand that first post on the FB page by Chris, the list is contained there. It isn't obvious at first glance. Here's a quote from part of the post with regards to the 1936 footage. Yowza! That really is a vintage find. Hopefully it will pop up somewhere to view at some point. Thanks for the info
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Post by Greg H on Dec 23, 2013 15:38:21 GMT
Based on Greg, Lawrence and Simon's recommendation I've just ordered the first volume of Callan. Must admit, this one's somehow passed me by. If it's half as good as the wonderful, non-missing "The Sandbaggers" (the best piece of classic TV I've seen) then I'll be very happy indeed! Callan is good stuff. If you are in the mood for a couple of other top notch Network ITV archive releases, you could do a lot worse than checking out the incomplete but still excellent ace of wands. A real classic. I also hold Budgie, big breadwinner hog (bit of a stupid name but it's pretty good), Mystery and imagination and the armchair thriller story 'quiet as a nun' in pretty high regard. Might want to splurge if you haven't seen these before
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 15:39:28 GMT
Based on Greg, Lawrence and Simon's recommendation I've just ordered the first volume of Callan. Must admit, this one's somehow passed me by. If it's half as good as the wonderful, non-missing "The Sandbaggers" (the best piece of classic TV I've seen) then I'll be very happy indeed! In my view, it's way better than Sandbaggers (which is also a pretty good series)! You are really in for a treat there - have a good Christmas on it. As Jaspal has already said, Callan is one of the best TV series ever made. Effortlessly so and it leaves most other dramas at the starting post by comparison!
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Post by John Green on Dec 23, 2013 15:43:21 GMT
Based on Greg, Lawrence and Simon's recommendation I've just ordered the first volume of Callan. Must admit, this one's somehow passed me by. If it's half as good as the wonderful, non-missing "The Sandbaggers" (the best piece of classic TV I've seen) then I'll be very happy indeed! Callan is good stuff. If you are in the mood for a couple of other top notch Network ITV archive releases, you could do a lot worse than checking out the incomplete but still excellent ace of wands. A real classic. I also hold Budgie, big breadwinner hog (bit of a stupid name but it's pretty good), Mystery and imagination and the armchair thriller story 'quiet as a nun' in pretty high regard. Might want to splurge if you haven't seen these before Wildly O/T,but since it's come up elsewhere recently...'Callan' fans might want to check out the character's meeting with the 'Father Dear Father' family on the 'Edward Woodward Hour' DVD. (And on an episode of FDF itself,father turns detective,and one of the girls says "Alright 'Marker'".Well,I liked it...).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 15:46:33 GMT
Callan is good stuff. If you are in the mood for a couple of other top notch Network ITV archive releases, you could do a lot worse than checking out the incomplete but still excellent ace of wands. A real classic. I also hold Budgie, big breadwinner hog (bit of a stupid name but it's pretty good)...and Public Eye too. Real top draw stuff!
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Post by edhipkiss on Dec 23, 2013 16:18:01 GMT
Thank you all for the top notch ITV recommendations. I confess I know little of their output pre-1980, largely because I rarely use the number 3 button on my TV nowadays due to the fact it is like staring into a sewer 99.9% of the time.
(possibly 100% of the time now that Poirot has finally ended)
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Post by Nick Gilbert on Dec 23, 2013 18:11:27 GMT
Dick Fiddy quote
"at the time of taping this interview I can only elucidate on what I've been told and some of that might only come under the heading 'rumour'. I think that what we know, we're not talking about hundreds of titles, we're talking thousands, tens of thousands maybe"
Hope that helps.
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Post by Simon Jailler on Dec 23, 2013 18:33:49 GMT
Based on Greg, Lawrence and Simon's recommendation I've just ordered the first volume of Callan. Must admit, this one's somehow passed me by. If it's half as good as the wonderful, non-missing "The Sandbaggers" (the best piece of classic TV I've seen) then I'll be very happy indeed! Sandbaggers is fantastic so you are on the right track with Callan, Ed. Enjoy! Both shows have intelligent story lines and excellent casts. Chuffed to learn from these pages that there are some other Public Eye and Sandbaggers fans. These shows prove how much can be achieved with small budgets, great writers, top drawer actors and bundles of imagination. That's why lots of us still love them after all these years.
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Post by Greg H on Dec 23, 2013 18:39:42 GMT
Thank you all for the top notch ITV recommendations. I confess I know little of their output pre-1980, largely because I rarely use the number 3 button on my TV nowadays due to the fact it is like staring into a sewer 99.9% of the time. (possibly 100% of the time now that Poirot has finally ended) You won't get any arguments from me on that. ITV was completely intolerable brains free trash last time I checked. It is funny to think that they used to make some serious television classics. Hey ho! (same can mostly be said of the BBC as well )
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 23, 2013 19:19:31 GMT
Thank you all for the top notch ITV recommendations. I confess I know little of their output pre-1980, largely because I rarely use the number 3 button on my TV nowadays due to the fact it is like staring into a sewer 99.9% of the time. (possibly 100% of the time now that Poirot has finally ended) You won't get any arguments from me on that. ITV was completely intolerable brains free trash last time I checked. It is funny to think that they used to make some serious television classics. Hey ho! (same can mostly be said of the BBC as well ) ITV worked much better when it was very regional with lots of independent tv companies. Now we have the remnants of Granada and Carlton and thats about it. We would not get programmes made now like all the ITC series, Mark 1 Productions from LWT. It seems to be all talent shows and phone in votes nowadays. If you have 20 companies making programmes, you will get a lot more than with just two. ITV have now just called themselves ITV studios. Several Episodes of the Professionals, have lost upto 8 minutes from them, and on the masters. Hunter/Hunted now starts at the Titles, and is only 40 minutes long. I think the section upto the titles is missing.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Dec 23, 2013 20:15:29 GMT
Re the guy above who has just ordered 'Callan'
The show was in the same style of 'The Sandbaggers' ...but with a colder 'cutting edge' to it..
it began as an episode of 'Armchair Theatre' - 'A Magnum For Schnieder' in b/w with the 'thirty something' close cropped Edward Woodward as 'Callan' (think something along the lines of Mike Caine's 'Harry Palmer' character...a down at heel reluctant but expert agent in the seedier all too real ruthless spy world the complete opposite of James Bond !)
- in that pilot story Peter Bowles plays Callan's colleague the sinister 'Toby Meres' & 'Hunter' is his boss while Russell Hunter plays 'Lonely' his dog like underworld pal - Channel Four screened this some years back, still compelling stuff...
David Callan is (I think) ex-military seconded into Intelligence (like Harry Palmer was) - he's cynical, world weary, HATES the job really...but is one of if not the TOP agent of the mysterious 'Section' and he is damm good at doing whatever is required - Edward Woodward's brilliantly compelling 'hard as nails but vulnerable inside' character is the magnetic focus of the series throughout..very much 'a Man Alone' (as the eerie memorable guitar led theme tune was titled) Callan's only real love is his careful making and trading model soldiers of more colourful military historical times...attending conventions and enacting war games
Callan is a TOP operative...ruthless killer when required...who acts on 'Expert Auto pilot'...then feels 'sick to his stomach' but ONLY when off duty and relaxing back at his dingy flat...tho' when back on duty he's ruthless, cool, and efficient once again.
The first b/w series - of which several episodes are lost - sees regular co-star Anthony Valentine (later the charming if devious 'Raffles' & the evil Major Mohn in season two of 'Colditz' etc) brilliantly make the role of 'Toby Meres' his own and that series had a sensational ending....out on DVD it's well worth grabbing
the colour series features William Squire as a new 'Hunter' and budding 'Meres' in the making 'James Cross' (Patrick Mower) join Callan & Lonely, later on Toby Meres (initially away on secondment to the C.I.A. in the USA as Anthony Valentine was for a time unavailable) returns to the series...
the consistancy of scripts remains strong and 'The Colour Years' DVD is recommended too
finally we had 'Callan: Wet Job' where a middle aged Woodward (post or just pre-'Equaliser' I think) returns for a 'one off' story of how a older Callan discovers that nobody ever 'retires' from the section....George Sewell appears in that too & it's also out on DVD
A colour film version of the original pilot; subtitled; 'This is Callan' (aka 'Red File For Callan') featured Woodward and Hunter as Callan & Lonely with Eric Porter as 'Hunter' & Peter Egan (of 'Breadwinner Hog' & 'Ever Decreasing Circles' fame) playing 'Toby Meres' - it's also out on DVD and is not a bad big screen version if not quite the intense drama of the small screen version ...
many well known TV names can be seen in their younger days in the show too....(Clifford Rose of 'Secret Army' / 'Kessler' was a semi regular, Julian Glover,Mike Pratt of Randall & Hopkirk, T.P. McKenna, Garfield Morgan of 'The Sweeney', Anthony Nicolls of 'The Champions', Ray Smith of 'Dempsey & Makepeace', Richard Hurndall, etc)
I don't think anyone buying the DVDs of the TV show or the film will be disappointed, the show really made Edward Woodward a household name !
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