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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Sept 15, 2013 8:22:49 GMT
I'm baffled as to the idea that no one has been harassed. Check out the SLBC twitter feed, it is virtually a Dr Who club. I know of people who have contacted African reporters, embassies, academics, called stations such as ZNBC. Many fans all contacting the same people again and again Sorry,but this just resembles the natural fan hysteria of a thousand different pop groups and singers since Frank Sinatra in the 1940s:the need for a constant flow of information and confirmation about their idols.Publicity machines create the smokescreen by which hysteria starts,thus providing greater desire and so driving record sales.The action of fans to confirm the missing eisode rumours is no different,but I wouldn't call it harrassment.Dr.Who has been an emblem of popular culture for the past 50 years and it is inherently linked with people's childhoods so you can't blame them for trying to seek closure about it's missing past.The 50th Anniversary will naturally bring to the fore all aspects of the series,be it missing episodes or the selection of Peter Capaldi.I'm sure there are just as many fans out there who love the new series who are also 'harrassing' people trying to find out information about the new Dr and the next series. |
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Post by Michael B on Sept 15, 2013 8:27:52 GMT
I think it would prove more worthwhile to try and get more classic Who on TV for the 50th in general. The recovery announcements (or non-recovery announcements) will look after themselves.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Sept 15, 2013 8:30:15 GMT
The action of fans to confirm the missing eisode rumours is no different,but I wouldn't call it harrassment. Clearly the TIEA inbox is full of emails demanding to know what's going on, and if you consider how unfairly Philip Morris has been painted in some of the more extreme facets of the omnirumour, it would be fair to assume that (considering the lack of social skills the more extreme Doctor Who fans often exhibit) he has also received a steady flow of abusive and rude messages. I know for a fact people have posted his home address and telephone number online, so it's been possible for these idiots to take things a step further. I feel for Mr Morris on this matter. Even if his searches have turned up nothing, what he's done and the risks he's taken in doing so, mark him down as a solid gold hero in my books, and certainly not deserving of the hassle he's experienced. |
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Post by Bill Spiby on Sept 15, 2013 8:33:06 GMT
I'm hoping the Dead of Night anthology DVD due out in October has a couple of surprises on. Bill, is your avatar from Night of the Demon? Great film. Yes, well spotted. One of my all-time favourites. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 8:48:21 GMT
Anything - not just Who - turned up when TVC was vacated? Given the size of the place and the fact that it had 50 years of physical production behind it, I'd be very surprised indeed if no missing material at all (of any kind) turned up from the clear out of TVC! I've heard nothing at all so far though. |
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Post by Adrian Last on Sept 15, 2013 9:13:45 GMT
I have a gut feeling that we may be in for a "Gems From TVC" strand at The BFI someday!
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Post by Charles Daniels on Sept 15, 2013 9:15:57 GMT
I'm baffled as to the idea that no one has been harassed. Check out the SLBC twitter feed, it is virtually a Dr Who club. I know of people who have contacted African reporters, embassies, academics, called stations such as ZNBC. Many fans all contacting the same people again and again Sorry,but this just resembles the natural fan hysteria of a thousand different pop groups and singers since Frank Sinatra in the 1940s:the need for a constant flow of information and confirmation about their idols.Publicity machines create the smokescreen by which hysteria starts,thus providing greater desire and so driving record sales.The action of fans to confirm the missing eisode rumours is no different,but I wouldn't call it harrassment.Dr.Who has been an emblem of popular culture for the past 50 years and it is inherently linked with people's childhoods so you can't blame them for trying to seek closure about it's missing past.The 50th Anniversary will naturally bring to the fore all aspects of the series,be it missing episodes or the selection of Peter Capaldi.I'm sure there are just as many fans out there who love the new series who are also 'harrassing' people trying to find out information about the new Dr and the next series. They aren't calling the BBC and leaving it at that, but contacting stations and organizations repeatedly with no provable interest or knowledge of Dr Who at all, and doing it repeatedly in force. So while I have some sympathy for your stance, I have more sympathy for the guy who runs the national museum for Sierra Leone, who probably has no reason to have foaming at the mouth emails and answering machine messages about a program that hasn't aired there in 42 years |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 11:47:15 GMT
If there is a current search going on in TVC will this be as indepth as the clearout of Villiers House where episodes were found behind a wall? Were film cans even brought to TVC at any time? Maybe Tenth Planet 4 after leaving Blue Peter to get the clip of the regeneration scene could turn up this way?
Also in regards to Tenth Planet does anyone know what the Coming Soon trailer will be on the November DVD that has been cleared by BBFC? I can only think The Moonbase.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 15:47:51 GMT
Can you please post under a full name, Grant? As per forum rules. Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 0:25:38 GMT
The action of fans to confirm the missing eisode rumours is no different,but I wouldn't call it harrassment. Clearly the TIEA inbox is full of emails demanding to know what's going on, and if you consider how unfairly Philip Morris has been painted in some of the more extreme facets of the omnirumour, it would be fair to assume that (considering the lack of social skills the more extreme Doctor Who fans often exhibit) he has also received a steady flow of abusive and rude messages. I know for a fact people have posted his home address and telephone number online, so it's been possible for these idiots to take things a step further. I feel for Mr Morris on this matter. Even if his searches have turned up nothing, what he's done and the risks he's taken in doing so, mark him down as a solid gold hero in my books, and certainly not deserving of the hassle he's experienced.Alan, thanks for posting the sentence that I agree with the most during this saga. I feel bitterly for Phil as this mess continues to run and must make what he is doing so much harder. Roll on an announcement of some sort, it's taken too long and every day makes the fall out of this mess even worse. I believe Phil has been successful, but it's a real shame that he gets any hassle after doing such a wonderful thing. Also, Alan, huge Avengers fan, love your website. Really appreciate the work you've put in, planning on ordering your book on the missing episodes (if my birthday hints don't pay off!). |
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Post by Marty Schultz on Sept 16, 2013 0:37:20 GMT
I'm baffled as to the idea that no one has been harassed. Check out the SLBC twitter feed, it is virtually a Dr Who club. I know of people who have contacted African reporters, embassies, academics, called stations such as ZNBC. Many fans all contacting the same people again and again Sorry,but this just resembles the natural fan hysteria of a thousand different pop groups and singers since Frank Sinatra in the 1940s:the need for a constant flow of information and confirmation about their idols.Publicity machines create the smokescreen by which hysteria starts,thus providing greater desire and so driving record sales.The action of fans to confirm the missing eisode rumours is no different,but I wouldn't call it harrassment.Dr.Who has been an emblem of popular culture for the past 50 years and it is inherently linked with people's childhoods so you can't blame them for trying to seek closure about it's missing past.The 50th Anniversary will naturally bring to the fore all aspects of the series,be it missing episodes or the selection of Peter Capaldi.I'm sure there are just as many fans out there who love the new series who are also 'harrassing' people trying to find out information about the new Dr and the next series. Yes. It is harrasment. Who are you to say it isn't. Victims are saying they have been harassed. I have seen them being vilified and harassed online. "Sorry. You're not being harrassed this is normal behaviour. Put up with it." I'm an adult. I behave like an adult. This behaviour is neither justified or acceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 5:49:16 GMT
Sorry,but this just resembles the natural fan hysteria of a thousand different pop groups and singers since Frank Sinatra in the 1940s:the need for a constant flow of information and confirmation about their idols.Publicity machines create the smokescreen by which hysteria starts,thus providing greater desire and so driving record sales.The action of fans to confirm the missing eisode rumours is no different,but I wouldn't call it harrassment.Dr.Who has been an emblem of popular culture for the past 50 years and it is inherently linked with people's childhoods so you can't blame them for trying to seek closure about it's missing past.The 50th Anniversary will naturally bring to the fore all aspects of the series,be it missing episodes or the selection of Peter Capaldi.I'm sure there are just as many fans out there who love the new series who are also 'harrassing' people trying to find out information about the new Dr and the next series. Yes. It is harrasment. Who are you to say it isn't. Victims are saying they have been harassed. I have seen them being vilified and harassed online. "Sorry. You're not being harrassed this is normal behaviour. Put up with it." I'm an adult. I behave like an adult. This behaviour is neither justified or acceptable. Ringing or phoning publicly available websites is not harrasment. Niether is checking shipping recordes or contacting foreign TV stations. I think you need to look at the evidence. No-one's been harrased or bullied on forums. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 5:50:56 GMT
Yes. It is harrasment. Who are you to say it isn't. Victims are saying they have been harassed. I have seen them being vilified and harassed online. "Sorry. You're not being harrassed this is normal behaviour. Put up with it." I'm an adult. I behave like an adult. This behaviour is neither justified or acceptable. Ringing or phoning publicly available websites is not harrasment. Niether is checking shipping recordes or contacting foreign TV stations. I think you need to look at the evidence. No-one's been harrased or bullied on forums. Wow! The SLBC Twitter has 64 members. Wow, that's some serious harrasment.  |
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Post by Greg H on Sept 16, 2013 6:34:07 GMT
I'm baffled as to the idea that no one has been harassed. Check out the SLBC twitter feed, it is virtually a Dr Who club. I know of people who have contacted African reporters, embassies, academics, called stations such as ZNBC. Many fans all contacting the same people again and again If this is what is currently happening it is a great shame. All it will achieve is to give the relevant parties an instant aversion to the mention of doctor who. If they did recall some relevant information or come across something, they may well just think to themselves 'those doctor who fans are a bunch of loonies, best left well alone', and a possible lead vanishes in a puff of smoke. Investigations like this, if there actually is anything to investigate, are best left to Paul Vanesiz and people like that. Too many cooks can only spoil the broth. I am sure I would have nothing useful to add to the situation by shouting down a telephone about yeti and macra at some poor baffled archivist in Africa.......... |
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Post by Marty Schultz on Sept 16, 2013 8:46:00 GMT
Yes. It is harrasment. Who are you to say it isn't. Victims are saying they have been harassed. I have seen them being vilified and harassed online. "Sorry. You're not being harrassed this is normal behaviour. Put up with it." I'm an adult. I behave like an adult. This behaviour is neither justified or acceptable. Ringing or phoning publicly available websites is not harrasment. Niether is checking shipping recordes or contacting foreign TV stations. I think you need to look at the evidence. No-one's been harrased or bullied on forums. TIEA are saying this behaviour can put negotiations and people at risk. Whether you deem it harassment or not is irrelevant. I think you need to look at the evidence. You are absolutely wrong about the online harassment - as evidenced by the other posts on this thread. I have seen several RT members and MEF mods both harrassed and had their integrity questioned offensively on forums. Just because it has been deleted or you didn't see it doesn't mean it did not occur. |
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