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Post by markg on Sept 14, 2012 8:48:06 GMT
Hi, I remember "Vincent", and I should point out that the performance of "Vincent" is from the same concert/film as "American Pie", not the same piece of film.
Just to clarify...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 8:59:39 GMT
Conquistador was 1st recorded in 1967 it was on the lp back then called Procul Harum American copies had Homburg on it so the 72 version i think was rerecorded Yes, the original of Conquistador was 1967. So if it wasn't a re-release, was the '72 version maybe the one from their live album of that period (with orchestra)? Just a guess. Really great track though - one of their very best! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:02:17 GMT
Yes, the original of Conquistador was 1967. So if it wasn't a re-release, was the '72 version maybe the one from their live album of that period (with orchestra)? Exactly. Live with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra, the far superior version IMO. |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 14, 2012 12:26:42 GMT
Hi, I remember "Vincent", and I should point out that the performance of "Vincent" is from the same concert/film as "American Pie", not the same piece of film. Just to clarify... thanks Mark, that clarifies the note, I suspect the Lindisfarne note applies the same as well, prob concert footage (I never liked concert footage much, the recorded version as recorded was the only acceptable version to my 14-year-old ears...)  |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 14, 2012 12:29:15 GMT
Yes, the original of Conquistador was 1967. So if it wasn't a re-release, was the '72 version maybe the one from their live album of that period (with orchestra)? Exactly. Live with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra, the far superior version IMO. yes, and just at odds with my "live concert" footage opinion above, the version that is the single is the version for me, almost always. Alex Harvey's Delilah (live) is another example (rare) of a live version being the definitive version. Silver Machine too? |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 15, 2012 7:15:37 GMT
No Notes this time, or dates, or artists (except for three, which suggests they were ex-chart or new-ish to me) just a straight list headed "Top Of The Pops"
Little Willy
Rock & Roll Part 2
American Trilogy
Argent - Tragedy
Little Bit Of Love
Circles
Crossword Puzzle - Dana
California Man - Move
Vincent
Nut Rocker
Looking at this, I'm surprised Sweet were the lead-in song (they often appeared on the show), the Elvis must have been a film (obviously), and Nut Rocker end credits. Dana, not bothered about it wasn't much good, I think Don McLean appeared on the show about this time (or certainly later in the year) when he got to No.1.
Which leaves, New Seekers, one of their best records, would love to see that, and the Free track, if that was studio that would be a gem. I'm sure Ive seen the Move performance since (?) I recall some mad sax playing lying on the floor, Glitter was also a great one, and Argent an under-appreciated band.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 8:37:09 GMT
This is of course the existing episode from 22/06/1972. Sweet were 'just' the charts with the audience, and Free did not perform, instead Pan's People danced to it. Sweet & Gary Glitter are missing from the archives, but the rest of the show is intact.
The Move clip has been shown on TOTP2 a while ago.
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Post by Dale Rumbold on Sept 15, 2012 9:06:09 GMT
Circles Crossword Puzzle - Dana Dana, not bothered about it wasn't much good Which leaves, New Seekers, one of their best records, would love to see that How can anyone 'dis' the lovely Dana? I have that single in my collection (something not many can say). "Circles" was, of course, written by the wonderful (and very much missed) Harry Chapin, though it is meant to be called "Circle" (which is what they sing). |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 15, 2012 11:28:37 GMT
This is of course the existing episode from 22/06/1972. Sweet were 'just' the charts with the audience, and Free did not perform, instead Pan's People danced to it. Sweet & Gary Glitter are missing from the archives, but the rest of the show is intact. The Move clip has been shown on TOTP2 a while ago. thanks Andreas, typical I'd have one that existed, but at least it (probably) confirms I wrote it down right. You're not the same Andreas who had the radio Luxembourg charts forum? Just in case you're interested I'm currently posting the remaining Luxembourg charts from 1971/72 in my notepads on my popchartfreak.wordpress blog. I wrote almost all of them down - but not until 1973/74, in 1972 I was just dabbling. cheers! |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 15, 2012 11:32:05 GMT
Circles Crossword Puzzle - Dana Dana, not bothered about it wasn't much good Which leaves, New Seekers, one of their best records, would love to see that How can anyone 'dis' the lovely Dana? I have that single in my collection (something not many can say). "Circles" was, of course, written by the wonderful (and very much missed) Harry Chapin, though it is meant to be called "Circle" (which is what they sing). thanks for the info, I'd forgotten about Harry Chapin, he was great. Dana I have mixed feelings for, following some of her supposed utterings in political years, but loved "Fairytale" and "All Kinds Of Everything" when she was fresh n sweet, usually though I found her singles a bit too MOR for my tastes... thanks! john |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 15, 2012 12:09:06 GMT
OK, Ive had my dinner, Ive got an hour to spare, so here are the 3 episodes I've got over 2 pages headed "Top Of The Pops" along with a list of records called "Ones I Want". I note the only one listed that I still don't have in my record collection 40 years on is Let's See Action by The Who, so I'm going to complain it always seems not to be included on Hits collections, boo!
I'm listing exactly as written, title artist (brackets highest chart position) whether I had on reel-to-reel tape off the radio (x =no, y =yes)
BACK ON THE ROAD - MARMALADE (-) x
MORNING - VAL DOONICAN (13) y
TOKOLOSHE MAN - JOHN KONGOS (4) y
SOFTLY WHISPERING I LOVE YOU - CONGREGATION (4) y
NO MATTER HOW I TRY - GILBERT O'SULLIVAN (6) y
SHAFT - ISAAC HAYES (4) y
I CAN'T LET YOU GO - BARRY RYAN (-) x
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO LOVE HIM - PETULA CLARK (-) x
ERNIE - BENNY HILL (1) y
JEEPSTER - T.REX (2) y
A few thoughts: Fresh back from 2 years in Singapore Sept 1971 (RAF dad) T.Rex (and especially Jeepster) sounded SOOO exciting after 2 years of non-offensive pop radio (rock quite rare). John Kongos, too, that record still sounds menacing and his original of He's Gonna Step On You Again is brilliant, way better than the more famous chirpy Happy Mondays version. Shaft was fresh and exciting, and remains that way, funky-retro.
I loved the Congregation song, it's that wailing guitar that punches through the choir that sells it and the singer is great too. Barry Ryan had a long string of great singles, Eloise is an Epic for all time, this one is fab n catchy n shoulda been a big hit! Gilbert's second best hit, before he went pop n dull (though he's had occasionally interesting stuff over the years, including a 90's dance club track), and Ernie, apart from over-familiarity at the time, really is a good novelty hit, if that's not oxymoronic...
Finally I always had a soft spot for Val, his kiddie 60's stuff and Elusive Butterfly were fun, and Petula too, her 60's stuff was great, this though took the shine off the original and definitive version from Yvonne Elliman - now hse was great, loved her 70's stuff, and spine-tingling show pieces in the movie version of Superstar
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 12:10:28 GMT
You're not the same Andreas who had the radio Luxembourg charts forum? Just in case you're interested I'm currently posting the remaining Luxembourg charts from 1971/72 in my notepads on my popchartfreak.wordpress blog. I wrote almost all of them down - but not until 1973/74, in 1972 I was just dabbling.cheers! Well I am the one who had the Radio Luxembourg chart site years ago (it's still there on my private homepage), with all the RTL charts from 1973-1979. I'd be very interested in the years 1970-1972. I have some of them (some kind people have sent me their notes), but not complete so far. I'll have a look on your blog! |
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 15, 2012 12:22:49 GMT
next up:
Jeepster (2) y
Soley Soley (5) y
Kara Kara (17) y
Something Tells Me (3) y
Sleepy Shores - Johnny Pierson (Owen M.D) (8) y
Fireball (13) y
I Just Can't help Beleiving. (6) y
Hooked On A Feeling (23) y
Diamonds are Forever (-) x
Ernie (1) y
Youve gotta have love in your heart (22) x
I'm thinking the chart positions must be an afterthought as they look like peak positions after the event, and the pencil I used is slightly darker than the ones listing the songs - probably been sharpened!
Is this the way to amarillo (18) y
Softly Whispering I love you (4) y
Sleepy Shores (8) y
I'd like to teach the world to sing y (1)
theme from onedin line (15) y
I wanna go back there again (-) x
Mother of mine (2) y
Stoney end (-) x
Morning (13) y
(and on the final line of the page squeezed together...)
Jeepster (2) Ernie (1) yy
I'm aware of the BJ Arnau record (or Beechey Arnow as I knew her off the radio at the time:) but the Stoney End track is a puzzle. It was a hit that I'd got on tape in Singapore some months earlier (for Barbara Streisand) and it had already been a minor hit in the UK. Its a great Laura Nyro track (love her songs, by the Fifth Dimension or herself) but not at all sure why it was on...
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Post by johnvincent on Sept 15, 2012 12:26:56 GMT
You're not the same Andreas who had the radio Luxembourg charts forum? Just in case you're interested I'm currently posting the remaining Luxembourg charts from 1971/72 in my notepads on my popchartfreak.wordpress blog. I wrote almost all of them down - but not until 1973/74, in 1972 I was just dabbling.cheers! Well I am the one who had the Radio Luxembourg chart site years ago (it's still there on my private homepage), with all the RTL charts from 1973-1979. I'd be very interested in the years 1970-1972. I have some of them (some kind people have sent me their notes), but not complete so far. I'll have a look on your blog! Goodo, thanks Andreas, hope they fill a few gaps, there's still 2 more fullones to post and a few part-charts, cheers! john |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 14:06:04 GMT
Circles Crossword Puzzle - Dana Dana, not bothered about it wasn't much good Which leaves, New Seekers, one of their best records, would love to see that How can anyone 'dis' the lovely Dana? I have that single in my collection (something not many can say). "Circles" was, of course, written by the wonderful (and very much missed) Harry Chapin, though it is meant to be called "Circle" (which is what they sing). I was politely rebuked a while ago when I too stated that that Dana record was "awful" as is that New Seekers one... and I haven't changed my mind! That incomplete edition is for me, pretty dire and dull with only Argent and The Move being the only decent records on it and whilst I'm glad they've survived I do sometimes wish a better edition from 1972 had been captured. Each to their own of course, but for me, Dana seemed to be part of that BBC MOR brigade that enabled them to sneak on to TOTP when it suited the BBC. Just my worthless opinion of course! |
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