Jimmy Saville Dead

[gerhartzapf]

this thread should be closed ...

happy new year @ all

[Peter Stirling]

Dec 31, 2015 13:24:39 GMT SimonWinters said:

Why are the so-called moderators allowing this pathetic thread to run? I had a perfecly on-topic thread locked a year ago for reasons unknown, yet this crap is allowed to run on.

This forum is a complete joke. Full of rubbish these days.

Oh for goodness sake lighten up it's the festive season after all, the forum remains with plenty of informative threads , you don't have to look at the Jimmy Savile thread . Why this thread has provoked a strong input is the fact that the first replies are different from what came after his death and the fact that JS remains an enigma, surely people are entitled to discuss this and share their views? especially as programmes could be destroyed because of the JS connection.
Surely a thread that inspires the imagination and encourages people to write about whatever is better than one that just comes and goes without any input whatsoever?

[John Green]

Simon,
You make a good point.I'd love to read about new finds,or have pointers to areas worth a look.We have far fewer threads than we did on these things,and I'd urge everyone to make a resolution to do what they can this year.

[Tony Walshaw]

I think that the Savile scandal, and the subsequent convictions of other presenters, has tarnished the missing episodes cause.

To look outward from this, it can be said that nothing was ever perfect. And Savile was only a small part of the whole - a face making inane links between songs.

In searching for missing episodes, there are many more stones to be unturned that can only reveal positive things.

[Ronnie McDevitt]

As far as this forum is concerned the worst part about the whole Savile episode was the posters who were more concerned that his shows would not be repeated when everyone else was horrified that he had been able to live the life of a King and passed on without prosecution.
It must have been traumatic enough for his victims to see him in the limelight for all those years though thankfully the only time we shall see this monster on our screens again is within the proper context.
Do agree that this is off topic for a missing episodes forum though.

[markg]

I dunno, your post proves that this is the right place to discuss this.

[Deleted]

The problem is Savile fooled everyone ... all of us. We can all say in hindsight, "yeah, I never liked him", but SOMEONE did. Lots of someones. Hence the contacts (I won't say friends) in very high places, keeping him hidden in plain sight.

How could we have got it so wrong? Easy, we believed the image was the same as the man. We were all naïve. Even those who were abused by this vile man, in thinking their story would be believed by those in authority, whose job it was to Listen. We were all more innocent, dangerously so, no-one even thought someone in Savile's position would do what he did ... or is alleged to have done. And since then, with the revelations about Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris et al ... our sense of faith in our own judgement was rocked ... what we thought applied to our childhood didn't. The world we thought we lived in, innocent, nice & free from nastiness, wasn't anything like that. We got that wrong too.

In the context of someone's abuse, whether or not we get to see an edition of Top Of The Pops featuring interesting footage as well as Savile introducing it is neither here nor there. But in the context of our lives, the world moving on, history, call it what you like, it's important these programmes aren't wiped or kept hidden away. They stand, as Paul Newman says at the end of The Towering Inferno, as some kind of "monument to all the bullshit in the world." All the nasty, horrible bullshit that ruins lives and destroys people. We see it ... and don't forget.