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Post by Tony Walshaw on Nov 5, 2011 9:25:31 GMT
I think he was a workaholic who got up each morning and always had something to do.
His friends were his audience and the people he met whilst going around doing his radio, TV and charity work.
Self-motivated characters like him don't necessarily need close friends/partners in their private life to the extent that others say they are needed.
How we miss people like him now. He was his own man and did not jump onto any media bandwagon. I personally feel a loss at his passing.
He was a loveable eccentric. His quirky style of ad-lib presenting on such as Top of the Pops in the 60s was unusual at the time. It contrasted with that of smooth presenters such as Pete Murray, and later the naff jokes of the 'Smashie n Nicie' DJs.
He was one of the personalities that broke through in the postwar period and through TV became iconic in general life in the 60s & 70s. Thus as mentioned he was very much a part of the younger years of members of this forum.
In Doctor Who 'The War Machines' (1966), Anneke Wills introduced the Doctor (William Hartnell) to her new friends in a discotheque. "Hey, he looks like that disc jockey!" was the reply from one of the other girls. She could only mean Jimmy Savile.
RIP Sir Jimmy
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Post by Chris Dabbs on Nov 5, 2011 9:51:32 GMT
A lovely sentiment. :-) I think he was a workaholic who got up each morning and always had something to do. His friends were his audience and the people he met whilst going around doing his radio, TV and charity work. Self-motivated characters like him don't necessarily need close friends/partners in their private life to the extent that others say they are needed. How we miss people like him now. He was his own man and did not jump onto any media bandwagon. I personally feel a loss at his passing. He was a loveable eccentric. His quirky style of ad-lib presenting on such as Top of the Pops in the 60s was unusual at the time. It contrasted with that of smooth presenters such as Pete Murray, and later the naff jokes of the 'Smashie n Nicie' DJs. He was one of the personalities that broke through in the postwar period and through TV became iconic in general life in the 60s & 70s. Thus as mentioned he was very much a part of the younger years of members of this forum. In Doctor Who 'The War Machines' (1966), Anneke Wills introduced the Doctor (William Hartnell) to her new friends in a discotheque. "Hey, he looks like that disc jockey!" was the reply from one of the other girls. She could only mean Jimmy Savile. RIP Sir Jimmy |
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Nov 6, 2011 21:02:53 GMT
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Post by Steve Flower on Nov 7, 2011 15:13:01 GMT
I was just wondering, if the existence of this Top Of The Pops appearance, with Jimmy Saville, and Micky Dolenz was widely known about? I for one have never seen it!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HWNNnhJuWE |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Nov 7, 2011 15:24:06 GMT
I have dated it, I saw it this morning. It's from the 10th year anniversary show, 27/12/1973 which exists. I'm guessing it was pre-recorded with Mickey Dolenz' comments about his daughter's birthday (which wasn't til January).
The list of appearances are:-
""TOP OF THE POPS 10 Years Of Pop Music 27/12/73 (Full edition exists)©
Introduced by Jimmy Savile (Bad Colour, Grainy and tracking jumps)
Kinks - Top of the pops (Promo)
Dave Clark Five - Bits and pieces (Studio) (TOTP 26/02/64)
Billy J Kramer - Little children (Studio) (TOTP 26/02/64)
Supremes - Baby love (Studio) (TOTP 08/10/64)
Beatles - I feel fine (Film)
Bachelors - I believe (Studio)
Who - My generation (Film)
Rolling Stones - Get off of my cloud (Studio) (TOTP 04/11/65)
Righteous Brothers - You’ve lost that loving feeling (Studio) (TOTP 28/01/65)
Sonny & Cher - I got you babe (Studio) (TOTP12/08/65)
Jonathan King - Everyones gone to the moon (Studio)
Sandie Shaw - Long live love (Studio)
Scott McKenzie - San Francisco (Flowers in your hair) (Studio) (TOTP Xmas 67)
Procol Harum - A whiter shade of pale (Studio) (TOTP Xmas 67)
Tremeloes - Silence is golden (Studio)
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich - Legend of Xanadu (Studio) (TOTP 22/02/68)
Joe Cocker - With a little help from my friends (Studio)
Status Quo - Pictures of matchstic men (Studio) (TOTP 15/02/68)
Alan Price - Dont stop the carnival (Studio) (TOTP 15/02/68)
Crazy World Of Arthur Brown - Fire (Studio) (TOTP 18/07/68)
Julie Driscoll - This wheels on fire (Studio) (TOTP 23/05/68)
Move - Fire brigade (Studio) (TOTP 15/02/68)
Marmalade - Ob-la-di-ob-la-da (Studio) (PGT60)
Free - All right now (Studio) (TOTP 04/06/70)
Jackson Five - I want you back (Studio/Pans People) (TOTP 12/02/70)
Norman Greenbaum - Spirit in the sky (Disc/Pan’s People)
Rolling Stones - Brown sugar (Studio) (Studio) (TOTP 15/04/71)
Rod Stewart & The Faces - Maggie May (Studio) (TOTP 03/09/71)
David Bowie - Starman (Studio) (TOTP 06/07/72)
Wizzard - Ball park incident (Studio) as on glam video
Wizzard - Angel fingers (Studio/Credits) <<< missing see Top Ten : Glam
(Credits) >> Top Of The Pops Orchestra Directed by Johnny Pearson, Pan’s People Choreography - Flick Colby, Sound - Richard Chamberlain, Lighting - Richie Richardson, Designer - Steve Brownsey, Produced by Bruce Millard/Robin Nash ""
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Post by Kev Hunter on Dec 18, 2015 19:44:18 GMT
Wow.. isn't it strange reading this particular thread four years on, and knowing what we know now?  |
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Post by John Green on Dec 18, 2015 23:52:03 GMT
Wow.. isn't it strange reading this particular thread four years on, and knowing what we know now? You,realise Kev that each of the above posts could be edited to make your comment meaningless? (I don't do emoticons,but now would be a good time to start). I'm in two minds about the editability: It means that one can cover up one's prattishness/humiliation,or at a pinch correct a factual error,but it's got Orwellian potentialities viz my numerous ignored suggestions that Kos be searched as a matter of urgency. |
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Post by Dave Woods on Dec 19, 2015 0:15:02 GMT
I'm in two minds about the editability: It means that one can cover up one's prattishness/humiliation,or at a pinch correct a factual error,but it's got Orwellian potentialities
Perhaps the edit capabilities should be removed and then we could all re-read the thread safe in the knowledge that we're enjoying a full and accurate view of history.
I'm not sure embarrassment would be the main motivation for editing.
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Post by John Green on Dec 19, 2015 1:31:41 GMT
I'm in two minds about the editability: It means that one can cover up one's prattishness/humiliation,or at a pinch correct a factual error,but it's got Orwellian potentialities
Perhaps the edit capabilities should be removed and then we could all re-read the thread safe in the knowledge that we're enjoying a full and accurate view of history.
I'm not sure embarrassment would be the main motivation for editing.
As an historian,I'm keen on an authentic text.A a poster,it's great that I can fix obvious mistakes,though I have to admit I've never used the 'reason for edit' option. Within a week of Saville's death,I'd come round to the idea that he was something of a national saint,and a man much maligned.I've changed that view again in the meantime. |
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Post by ajsmith on Dec 19, 2015 5:25:14 GMT
It's also interesting to reflect that I missplnt his surname in the title of this thread. I guess I didn't realise how 'Vile' he truly was. Hiding in plain sight indeed.
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Post by Greg H on Dec 19, 2015 9:03:15 GMT
I always just thought he was a cottager or something along those lines. Before his behaviour becoming public knowledge (conveniently just after his death, odd considering how he was friends with both Margaret Thatcher and the royal family), Louis Theroux's documentary about him set alarm bells ringing.
You never can tell, which is why you should never take risks when it comes to these things.
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Post by Kev Hunter on Dec 19, 2015 12:14:59 GMT
Wow.. isn't it strange reading this particular thread four years on, and knowing what we know now? You,realise Kev that each of the above posts could be edited to make your comment meaningless? (I don't do emoticons,but now would be a good time to start). I'm in two minds about the editability: It means that one can cover up one's prattishness/humiliation,or at a pinch correct a factual error,but it's got Orwellian potentialities viz my numerous ignored suggestions that Kos be searched as a matter of urgency. I hadn't even considered that, John. I was searching for something completely different within the forum, and found this thread. I wasn't even a member at the time of the news, so it made interesting reading. I don't think anyone had any idea just what would come to light, and I hope that no-one would be embarrassed by anything that was said before the details / accusations / evidence (delete as applicable) emerged. Given the strenght of feeling generally about how the past should not be tampered with, I hope that nothing is edited here after the event. To quote John Maynard Keynes, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" |
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Post by John Green on Dec 19, 2015 17:59:04 GMT
We're getting way O/T,but I have a feeling that one of my first posts was about how I strongly believed that there was more Who out there.We get very little squelching here,but I got a bit put down for that.There have been times when I've felt embarrassed about absolute howlers,when the delete button-it's on the right-hand star thingy of each of one's own posts-is very handy!
I remember contributing that JS's Desert Island Discs had been taken down by the BBC,but I'd been searching under 'Saville'.Or do I mean 'Savile'...?
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Post by Peter Stirling on Dec 20, 2015 0:37:26 GMT
Wow.. isn't it strange reading this particular thread four years on, and knowing what we know now? The whole thing is very strange indeed to the point that the Savile revealed post-mortem I thought I had stepped into a parallel universe. You would have thought that the man with the alleged ferocious sexual appetite would have made at least one slip up in his 50 odd years in the media spot light that would have had the News of the World hound dogs on his trail? ..but there is not a column inch about any dark practices. You would have also thought that to help contain this appetite he would have had a long suffering partner or cohort (like the Yorkshire Ripper or Fred West)..but there is absolutely nobody or any JS sproggs running around which might have resulted from his liaisons The Instigator of Savile's decline from hero to zero had been a disturbed girl who had been in an old style girl's borstal. Without hesitation or question the whole country decided to believe her account of Savile being brazen enough to do who knows what to her in a flash open top Rolls Royce with JS number plates. Not coming down on one side or the other, but if you scratch the surface it all becomes very strange indeed for those who remember the pre death Savile and his tireless work for other people, when he could have just gathered up his money, retired and flew off to some amoral hell whole where all his alleged desires could have been fulfilled. |
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Post by Greg H on Dec 20, 2015 7:12:52 GMT
Peter, whilst I don't claim to be omniscient, as far as I can see the first allegation of sexually improper behaviour against Savile was as far back as 1955, as the police have recorded it. There were regular allegations from there on. I don't have a precise number of people who have stated that they were either raped or otherwise sexually abused by Savile but it was quite a lot. I honestly don't think there is any doubt that he was a very disturbed person who didn't really have any regard for the lives of his victims in relation to satisfying his sexual appetites. It is my conviction that Savile only remained at large for so long as he had powerful friends who as it happens are now implicated in cover ups of paedophile rings amongst the wealthy and powerful and the systematic abuse of the most vulnerable of young people in the care system who were deemed to be 'worthless'. Let us not forget where he spent every new years eve for 11 years in a row and that that person is broadly accused of covering up for various people in parliament now. This isn't conspiracy theory but a matter of record. You are welcome to disagree with me on this as is your right, but I honestly think the boat has sailed on this one; Savile was guilty as a man can be. He is very fortunate he made the right friends or he would have been locked away from sight long before his death.   |
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