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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Sept 10, 2008 7:30:24 GMT
Music of Lennon and McCartney and the Early Beatles still exist in Granada's archive - and are (ahem) available on the collectors market....
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Sept 10, 2008 16:22:02 GMT
and?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Sept 10, 2008 16:25:28 GMT
I was commenting on an earlier post. No more than that.
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Sept 10, 2008 18:37:51 GMT
Any lost Beatles TYLS appearance would be fantastic!
Particularly Please Please Me, as this would fill in an important gap as previously discussed.
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Post by Jeff Lewis on Sept 10, 2008 19:38:26 GMT
Any lost Beatles TYLS appearance would be fantastic! Particularly Please Please Me, as this would fill in an important gap as previously discussed. Does anybody know who actually owns the rights to Thank Your Lucky Stars? Surely this is prime case of an interested party aquiring them and discover what remains in the archive. The quality of three shows that officially remain doesn't seem that great and it wouldn't be easy to market for an official release. I read a comment where there was intially only thought to be two surviving episodes then the Liverpool edition was discovered but to late for the Beatles Anthology. Was this a case of a wrongly labeled tape or the archive stored seperatly?
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Sept 10, 2008 20:04:13 GMT
To clarify;
three episodes survive.
Goodbye Lucky Stars, the last one (bar the one off special in December 66).
one of the Merseybeat specials December 63
one from May 66 featuring the Stones.
Bits and pieces survive e.g. Money by the Beatles, Gene Pitney Town Without Pity, and 4 Beatles numbers. Apparantly the insert survived as it was misfiled in a foreign archive. A bit featured in Anthology.
A cannibalised show exists in an Australian vault.
I've discovered two audio recordings of shows too.
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Oct 29, 2008 22:50:34 GMT
Hi all, Nice to be able to post under my real name again ( I had to use 'vinylman' after someone else used my real name - what are the chances, eh?). Further to my earlier posts on the '66 TOTP where I mentioned that Apple had been offered the clips, I've had the chance to go back to that particular edition of 'Beatles Monthly' (ahh, where would we be without BM?). In it, Bob Smeaton says that they were offered the clip on VT - transferred from film, but the image was literally unplayable. I took this to mean that a machine simply wouldn't read the poor information on the tape. Never heard anything about it since. BTW, shortly after the completion of the 'Anthology' docs, Ron Furmanek restored and preserved brand new copies of all the available promo films made by The Beatles (including all three cuts of 'Hello Goodbye' ) complete with stereo soundtracks, so all those are now safe. These were fully intended to be issued on DVD alongside the '1' CD in 2001, but Neil Aspinall thought that having a DVD equivalent would harm sales of the CD. Now the good bit; after the loss of Neil Aspinall, the Apple board appointed Jeff Jones as manager of Apple. Jeff Jones was head of Sony Music's 'Legacy' series of archive issues and is deservedly famous for their product and - most importantly - for doing things RIGHT. He hasn't been given the job to just sit at his desk and stare out the window all day. The best part of this is that JJ is a COLLECTOR and he thinks like one. The first thing he did at Apple was to look at the proposed Beatles remastered CDs then throw them in the bin because he didn't think they did the Beatles justice. He's not here just for the remasters; once they are out of the way, I'm sure there'll be lots more projects to follow. Work is currently being done on a restored version of 'Magical Mystery Tour' for DVD. Apple Corps now has a very different outlook on Beatles material. I honestly think things are going to change for the better. We will get to see DVD collections done properly. Trust Jeff Jones - he knows what he's doing. More important is that he's convinced the Apple board that people WANT these things, which wasn't always the case with Neil Aspinall. This seems to be the way to end posts in Beatles threads, but sorry for meandering.......
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 30, 2008 9:26:46 GMT
You weren't meandering at all, Peter! Thanks for the info and insight. Apple did send promo copies of the '1' songs with videos to various TV stations and other interested parties (of course, copies of these are on the collectors market....), and they look very good. In respect to June 66 TOTP, one hopes that Apple did not just TRY TO VIEW the tape/film, but actually acquired it. Films restoration has come on in leaps and bounds in the last few years, as we all know....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 9:27:44 GMT
Thanks for the update on the Beatles situation, Peter. Keep us in the picture and keep posting! I sincerely hope you are right about JJ. The Beatles catalogue (both CD and DVD) has always been a source of frustration that the group has been sold short for so long.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 30, 2008 9:30:33 GMT
In reply to the earlier thread about Thank Your Lucky Stars I THINK that Fremantle Media own the rights, but I have limited resources to research. My hunch, anyway....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 10:57:03 GMT
Canal + (or whatever they are called these days) own the rights to TYLS, it being an ABC show. Fremantle own the Thames library.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 30, 2008 11:56:27 GMT
Thanks, Laurence, I'm still learning!
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Oct 31, 2008 0:40:33 GMT
Thanks for the update on the Beatles situation, Peter. Keep us in the picture and keep posting! I sincerely hope you are right about JJ. The Beatles catalogue (both CD and DVD) has always been a source of frustration that the group has been sold short for so long. Hi Laurence, There's one thing for sure about Jeff Jones; when it comes to packaging music, he GETS IT. He's a fan and collector himself. The current plans for The Beatles' catalogue are mouth-watering and VERY thorough. To be fair to the late Neil Aspinall, he was never under pressure from the Apple board to do anything spectacular with the catalogue. But, to be fair to him, he was the one who came up with the idea for projects like 'Live At The BBC' (sold 10 million copies), The Anthology CDs and TV series (CDs in excess of five million per CD set) and '1' (32 million and counting), so they didn't have much cause for complaint!. The music catalogue is a strange subject, as people seemed to be more than happy with it for years. There were mistakes made, however. The first four CDs were released in mono (which is great for me, as I think all the mono mixes of their stuff SHOULD be heard - that's what their time and effort was focused on in the sixties (up until 'The Beatles'). The problem with the first four is that they were mastered for the CDs on a STEREO playback machine for some reason. There are lots of needledrops of the first four mono albums about and they put the official CDs to shame. Thing is, we're talking about CDs that were mastered twenty one years ago now, and most bands have had their catalogues remastered more than once. This is why Jeff Jones is so keen to get things right this time. And he will.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 31, 2008 9:36:39 GMT
According to Mojo magazine, they got a sneak preview or some White Album remastering and it sounded FANTASTIC. Just don't want to wait too long....
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 31, 2008 10:02:37 GMT
Didnt CH4 show it i seem to recall Peter Sellers&Marianne Faithfull on the show! Music of Lennon and McCartney and the Early Beatles still exist in Granada's archive - and are (ahem) available on the collectors market....
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