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Post by Peter Elliott on Jan 4, 2008 18:20:17 GMT
I seem to remember watching Christmas 1967 on Channel 4 some years back - anyone remember that??? Indeed I do... it was savagely edited with about half the show being chopped out completely! This BBC4 repeat will be interesting because will it be the full unedited version? The Beatles "All You Need Is Love" may well get the chop... |
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Post by Paul Watkins on Jan 4, 2008 18:21:20 GMT
Yes i remember, the C4 repeat of the Boxing Day Totp was edited and not complete
Here's some more details of what's being shown as part of this season:
Top of the Pops "Xmas 1967"
Vintage edition of the music show from Boxing Day 1967, featuring the Beatles, the Bee Gees, Long John Baldry, Lulu, Procol Harum, Cliff Richard and Engelbert Humperdinck among others
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Top of the Pops Xmas, 1978
Noel Edmonds presents a special Top of the Pops from 1978, with Darts, Abba, Boney M, Brotherhood of Man, Father Abraham, Bee Gees, Braian and Michael, Brighouse and Rastrick Brass Band, Wings, Showaddywaddy, Rose Royce, Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta, and Legs and Co.
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jan 4, 2008 19:14:49 GMT
It's a shame that they can't show a restored version of the June 68 show, the dj links might be a problem bt the performances certainly wouldn't as there mimed after all! Maybe next time hey BBC4?
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jan 4, 2008 20:10:55 GMT
Its interesting to see the Xmas 78 show being given an airing since Noel Edmonds vetoed the use of any episodes he hosted in the 1990s UK Gold repeats.
So, it looks like the 1967 show should be complete.
Agreed Robstar... it would be nice if the June 68 show could be restored but sadly it seems no audio tape has turned up of the links from that show. Not all in that show were miming BTW. Julie Driscolls' performance certainly had a live vocal as did Cilla Black's. I've always wanted to see the Don Partridge performance from that show!
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Post by Andy Howells on Jan 5, 2008 1:25:10 GMT
Didnt realise that about Noel's vetoe, but then maybe that was a result of the Beeb's shoddy treatment towards him way back when. As recent times have shown hes gladly given permisiion for use of Swap Shop clips on various shows and I imagine extras on Dr Who DVD's! Looking forward to these vintage TOTP's and even the 6.5 special and Juke Box Jury, though I wouldnt mind seeing more from other types of music shows that the Beeb have put out over the years. A vintage Cliff Richard show would have been great for what seems to have been an unofficial Cliff Richard night... ... and how about similar type shows fronted by Cilla Black or even Leo Sayer, I would love to see them again... those that survive that is!  |
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jan 5, 2008 1:43:01 GMT
...I wouldnt mind seeing more from other types of music shows that the Beeb have put out over the years. A vintage Cliff Richard show would have been great for what seems to have been an unofficial Cliff Richard night... ... and how about similar type shows fronted by Cilla Black or even Leo Sayer, I would love to see them again... those that survive that is! I agree. The recent BBC online archive trial had a handful of such shows - an early 1970 Cliff show was most enjoyable (most bizarre watching Hank Marvin as a comedian!) as was a Lulu show from the same year. The Beeb gave quite a few singers their own shows back then... Dusty, Cilla, Lulu, Cliff, Sandie Shaw, Bobbie Gentry, Julie Felix, Scott Walker... would be nice to see more examples of them... though impossible in the case of Scott sadly. |
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Post by John Fleming on Jan 5, 2008 13:48:54 GMT
It's a shame that they can't show a restored version of the June 68 show, the dj links might be a problem bt the performances certainly wouldn't as there mimed after all! Maybe next time hey BBC4? That episode was presented by Jimmy Savile and Davy Jones. both of whom are still alive. Assuming that the links are actually mute rather than lost, would it be beyond the realm of possibility to have the links lip-read and approach Messrs Savile and Jones about re-recording them? Regarding part of 25/12/67 surviving as part of the 900th, which I think I read on this site but can't find the thread, does anyone know if this is the case or whether an insert tape was used for the 900th? If it wasn't an insert tape then this is sickening as it would mean that the BBC were wiping TOTP as recently as 1981. I thought the wipings stopped in 1977. |
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jan 5, 2008 14:36:20 GMT
Absolutely the beeb should approach Saville and Jones to re-record there links! There are so few examples of complete shows they should act on any opportunity to restore this episode - while they still can!!!!!
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jan 5, 2008 16:27:43 GMT
Regarding part of 25/12/67 surviving as part of the 900th, which I think I read on this site but can't find the thread, does anyone know if this is the case or whether an insert tape was used for the 900th? If it wasn't an insert tape then this is sickening as it would mean that the BBC were wiping TOTP as recently as 1981. I thought the wipings stopped in 1977. Was this The Foundations performance? There are several takes of "Baby Now That I Found You" recorded for that Xmas show which has somehow survived - quite probably the earliest existing TOTP out-takes. |
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Post by robb on Jan 5, 2008 16:31:30 GMT
no, this was just a 20 second clip of 25/12/67, with the presenters reminding us about Beatles Magical mystery tour film that will soon be on over that xmas
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Post by robb on Jan 5, 2008 16:33:06 GMT
is the 1968 / Boxing 67 and Top of the pops '78 all shown part of Pop on trial, is this just a "Three Off' or is this the start of the great plunder ??
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Jan 7, 2008 22:00:22 GMT
I have just watched the 15/02/68 edition on BBC4 and enjoyed it very much. Whilst I think I have seen all the performances before on the likes of TOTP2 and Sounds Of The Sixties, it was good to see them in their original context with links by Jimmy Savile and Dave Cash.
Yes, we did have the BBC4 DOG all the way through, plus the end credits were spoken over by the BBC4 announcer, but they weren't squeezed down to a miniscule size in the corner of the screen. IMO it's a small price to pay to see something that I never thought we would see again.
Laurence - as for the breakdown between the end of DDDBMT "Legend of Xanadu" and after the start of Manfred Mann "Mighty Quinn", this was dealt with by fading the picture and sound out to black, probably at the point the breakdown occured and then fading back in when everything was working again.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Jan 7, 2008 23:34:36 GMT
What a treat to watch this in full. More of the same BBC4.  |
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Post by LanceM on Jan 8, 2008 3:13:46 GMT
Sadly was not able to catch it, though would like to have seen this full performance, sounds like it was good. Looks Like BBC 4 will be airing some other interesting items of note, have a look: Thu 10 Jan 9:00 pm Six Five Special Part of the Pop! What Is It Good for? season. First shown in 1957, an episode from the classic pop series, including performances from Spike Milligan, Freddie Mills and the Deep River Boys. [b&w]
Fri 11 Jan
7:30 pm Sounds of the Sixties
The Beat Room: Archive performances from Tom Jones, The Rolling Stones and Manfred Mann.
11:00 pm Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars
Part of the Pop! What Is It Good For?. DA Pennebaker's glam-rock classic features David Bowie's final performance as his alter ego Ziggy Stardust, given at London's Hammersmith Odeon. [1973]
12:30 am Omnibus: Cracked Actor, David Bowie
Part of the Pop! What Is It Good For? David Bowie talks about life on the road during his 1974 Diamond Dogs tour, including live performances of Space Oddity and Aladdin Sane.
www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/week/printable.shtml
Looks like some good material will be shown, worth a look.
Cheers, Lance. |
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Post by Andy Howells on Jan 8, 2008 8:35:32 GMT
It was good to see this in its entirety and some scenes were quite new to me, I thought the fade out before Mighty Quinn was handled quite well and the best way to do it in my opinion without tampering with the original.
Did anyone catch Juke Box Jury? I thought this was quite amusing in places, it seemed David McCallum maybe didnt want to be there and was probably talked into it by his wife! David Jacobs seemed to enjoy flirting with the (delightful) female panelists and I'm not sure but I reckon most f the selections ultimately became misses (note McCallum's disdain for Lonely Pup by Adam Faith).
I think this episode may have been shown around the Beeb's 60th anniversary in 1982 as I seem to have seen it before, pity the Beatles episode hasnt survived!
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