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Post by Paul Watkins on Dec 20, 2007 23:19:50 GMT
Just spotted this........  MUSIC: Top of The Pops On: BBC 4 Date: Monday 7th January 2008 Time: 21:00 to 21:30 (30 minutes long) 1968. Classic edition of Top of the Pops from 1968, presented by Jimmy Savile and Dave Cash. Artists featured include The Foundations, The Alan Price Set, Brenton Wood, Hermans Hermits, Status Quo, The Move and Amen Corner. |
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Post by John Fleming on Dec 21, 2007 8:40:55 GMT
That is really fantastic news, let's hope it's the first of many. The episode in question is 15/02/68 btw and is the only surviving complete show including DJ links from 1968.
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Post by Stephen Doran on Dec 21, 2007 9:37:20 GMT
Wonder if More will turn up?
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Post by LanceM on Dec 21, 2007 20:41:58 GMT
Hello All,
This is indeed great news, will be looking forward to seeing this edition. Did not know that it was the only complete edition from 1968 with all DJ links still intact, wonder if that is why this specific edition was slated for transmission ? Hope this is not an isolated incident, and the BBC start having a "Night with The Pops", would be great if they would consider to play some of the rarer clips sourced from domestic video tapes,or clips from the archives ( still yet to be seen since original transmission) know that is very unlikely to happen, from experience they would only consider such a thing if the quality was up to present broadcast standards, which most are not unfortunately, but are still perfectly enjoyable and watchable. Such as the clip from the 500th edition with The Who performing 5:15, or the Queen Seven Seas of Rhye performance ( newer ). I have seen some very good quality off air recordings of TOTP performances, they are not all in such a bad state as the BBC seems to think they all are.
In this respect I think they are limiting their options for recovery, research, and apparent screening and viewing figures. Would think presenting these vintage and rare sourced clips would be a major attraction for viewers, being able to see footage even the BBC would of never seen otherwise.
If viewing figures are the big issue here, I feel that there is a lot that can be done, which is not being done to change this predicament, if only they would open their perspectives a bit.
Honestly, look at the time these shows were being made, and the apparent recording technology made available to the consumer. Liked the idea another member here stated a while back: they could just put a " Do Not Adjust Your Set " caption before the clip, and a brief description on the source of the tape. No flashy color icons being shown on black and white clips, or flaky rude comments on the styles of dress or voices, that was not needed, and distracted from the material being shown. Have heard similar items of note voiced from other fans, so know that I am not alone when I say this.
If they really want to target this fan base, take into account what the fans have to say, what they are asking to see, and would like to see, actually listen for a change, might be surprised at what people might have to say.
Cheers, Lance.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Dec 21, 2007 22:39:19 GMT
There are more programmes on that night aswell
Top of the Pops - The True Story.
Juke Box Jury:
David Jacobs presents, with Nina and Frederick, Jill Ireland and David McCallum on the panel.
The Story of Light Entertainment.
Old Grey Whistle Test - Introduced by Jo Brand (looking back at)
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Post by Rich Cornock on Dec 22, 2007 9:46:14 GMT
i totalloy agree with you lance. i would love to see recovered clips on tv but i expect it is down to viewing figures. sadly i expect that there are not enough people out there like us who would watch a program full of dodgy clips, after all the bbc didnt even think there were enough viewers to keep top of the pops going even with quality pictures and sound.
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Post by ajsmith on Dec 22, 2007 15:17:01 GMT
with the exception of the slightly lesser spotted Herman's Hermits appearance, all the performances on that show have been repeated to death in Sounds of the 60s, and TOTP2. Will be nice to see them in their original context tho.
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Post by johnstewart on Dec 23, 2007 17:26:11 GMT
It certainly will and this is a first. That BBC4 have considered utilising a black and white telerecording that contains passages of silent dialogue; jumps and other noticeable glitches is remarkable.
Certainly this is an intelligent decision breaking established ground and a trend setting one too I hope.
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Post by Joe Haynes on Dec 23, 2007 18:52:16 GMT
Our we sure that this has been recovered? there has been no news from the BBC. So i have my doubts. if this is amazing and i would love to see a dvd set of all surviving 1960s Top of The Pops episodes
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Post by robb on Dec 23, 2007 21:03:12 GMT
it hasnt been recovered, they've had it this all the time,
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Post by robb on Dec 23, 2007 21:03:41 GMT
has it finally fallen out of TV copyright ?
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Post by robb on Dec 23, 2007 21:05:20 GMT
there was no silent dialogue that was the June 68 show, and the earliest is the TOTP 26/12/67, which would have been good to see this xmas
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Post by hartley967 on Dec 23, 2007 22:27:28 GMT
has it finally fallen out of TV copyright ? There is no such thing as 'public domain' in the UK. Infact a reverse situation from the USA . In the UK, sound records fall out of copyright after time but in the USA records do not. In the UK visual material does not fall out of copyright but in the USA its does (public domain). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 11:51:31 GMT
there was no silent dialogue that was the June 68 show, and the earliest is the TOTP 26/12/67, which would have been good to see this xmas 6/6/68 has the mute DJ links. The Feb edition is "basically" complete. I say basically as it contains at least one nasty jump cut of quite a few seconds duration. Hopefully they can find a way to smooth this over / sidestep the problem when it is shown though. I agree with John in that I hope they show more - a DVD of the remaining ´60s shows is a welcome idea (it would not amount to mauch though as there are only four shows, the other two being Xmas ´67 pt 2 and 27/2/69, which has partial mute links and poor sound itself!) There are many clips too though, so an "extras" disc of these would be welcome. Also, if the BBC were to trawl in all the other ´60s clips that are known to reside in overseas archives too, it would make for a much more appealing package! |
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Post by Joe Haynes on Dec 24, 2007 13:22:05 GMT
it hasnt been recovered, they've had it this all the time, Oh really. Thats wierd. i take it the BBC archives of Top Of the Pops is a load of crap then. I hope one day they can do it properly and make sure to list all they have in the archive |
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