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Post by Rich Cornock on Dec 24, 2007 17:22:17 GMT
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Post by Mark Kerridge on Dec 25, 2007 15:42:42 GMT
Hi Laurence - out of interest, at what point in the show is this jump cut?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2007 10:40:57 GMT
It´s between the final two acts. The end of Legend Of Xanadu cuts abruptly very near the end and leaps to Mighty Quinn several bars in (explaining why, on Sounds Of The 60s, the clip was edited together with the version used on the chart rundown at the programme´s beginning - you can hear where the sound edit occurs, where vision cuts to the group for the first time in the song). So there must be the last few seconds of Xanadu missing plus DJ intro to Quinn and the first few bars of the song. About 30 seconds i´d have thought. It looks (from the copy I have anyway) that the telerecording ran out of film as it was being made and they had to scramble around to change reels. Either that or the film suffered damage and a snippet was crudely edited out. My guess is that BBC4 will fade up a bit of audience applause over the end of Zanadu (to mask the sudden cut in sound) and then go straight to a Sounds Of The 60s style re-edit on Quinn. Not having BBC4, I won´t know! Perhaps someone can post up here what the BBC do?
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Post by jonathanwood on Dec 26, 2007 13:16:14 GMT
The breakdown in the 15/2/68 edition is due to the feed (video and audio) disappearing, possibly unplugged in error. Consequently the scan sync goes, causing patterning on the screen and when the feed does come back it takes a few seconds to re-lock. It is a continuous piece of film at that point although the whole episode is in two or three reels of 35mm. The film recorder may well have been run down and then back up again once the feed was restored so the gap may not indicate the exact duration of missing footage. The 6/6/68 film recording was recorded with a feed of the clean music only (no audience reaction or links) as per some existing 70s episodes on VT. This was usually done as part of a rec-2, where two machines would record the studio output - one with complete programme audio and one with just the music, the latter making it easier to re-use performances in future editions. There is at least one example where two separate VT recordings like this exist for a TOTP episode. The existing film recording of the 27/2/69 edition was intended to have a music only feed as well but it has been routed exactly the opposite of that for the first song and a half, i.e. the links audio but no music except for low-level breakthrough! At least it gave us an example of Stuart Henry's presentation. So to sum up, out of the four "complete" 1960s TOTPs shows existing, on closer inspection only Boxing Day '67 is in fact absolutely complete as broadcast although that in itself is only Part 2 of that year's Christmas celebrations.
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Post by Rich Cornock on Dec 27, 2007 10:26:46 GMT
can anybody tell me when the last complete episode of totps was recovered. any idea of the likely hood of any more surfacing?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2007 12:00:16 GMT
Thanks for putting us right on that useful info, Jonathan.
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Dec 27, 2007 22:05:21 GMT
Looking forward to this, tinged with anticipated anger at the dog and inane comments by an announcer over the squeezed credits!
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Post by johnstewart on Dec 30, 2007 17:59:38 GMT
it hasnt been recovered, they've had it this all the time, Oh really. Thats wierd. i take it the BBC archives of Top Of the Pops is a load of crap then. I hope one day they can do it properly and make sure to list all they have in the archive Well they had shockingly little long term it seems; but it has to be said that the recovered export clips; from Keith Badman; Germany; the Hendrix estate; and possibly Pete Townsends private collection have done great amends to augment this. There is quite a big library of the TOTP films from 1970 onwards. I also understand that a batch of 1971 editions was recovered from Bob Pratt; technician; as well as VT segments of 60s editions already existing. Apparently an off air recording of another BBC programme from 1964 contains the beginning of a 1964 edition. So there is now a good cross section of clips; but the pre 1976 TOTP library has always been poor / limited. P.S. Its my theory those damaged 1968 / 69 prints were rescued binned export prints; not archived material. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2007 10:18:37 GMT
Yes, there is a reasonable cross sections of ´60s / early ´70s TOTP clips existing, John. It´s just a pity that most of them don´t reside at the BBC. With a bit of recovery work though, they could.
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Post by Brian Evans on Jan 1, 2008 9:35:50 GMT
It will be nice to get this edition without timecodes all over it!! I think this may be a one off, but I will try and contact someone at BBC4 and find out what the plans are.  |
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 2, 2008 20:10:02 GMT
This Feb '68 edition should be well worth a look.
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Jan 3, 2008 18:36:24 GMT
Great news! Boxing Day 67 is being shown on BBC4 too!  |
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Jan 3, 2008 21:44:21 GMT
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Post by robb on Jan 4, 2008 17:46:33 GMT
Great news! Boxing Day 67 is being shown on BBC4 too! when ? |
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Post by Andy Howells on Jan 4, 2008 18:13:51 GMT
More TOP OF THE POPS shown on BBC4
Wed 16th January, 19.40, Christmas 1967
Thu 17th January, 19.30 , Christmas 1978
I seem to remember watching Christmas 1967 on Channel 4 some years back - anyone remember that???
BBC4 have also had some great clips introduced by Stuart Maconie on their interactive slot from the 1950's through the 90s this week including stuff from 6.5 special, Top of The Pops and Whistle Test.
Actually one wonders if Stuart Maconie should have got the TOTP2 gig, that would have been cool!
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