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Post by David Saunders on Dec 17, 2008 19:11:32 GMT
The two 1970 b/w editions must be 29/01/70 and 05/02/70, as Edison Lighthouse-Love Grows is danced to during the closing credits of 26/02/70, but I hadn't realized the closing theme had been around as far back as 1965! If only a complete 1965 edition were in existence somewhere, we could all see the opening and closing credits. You're very up well up on your trivia!  I wouldn't have known where to start in identifying the group who did the closing theme in the 1960s and most of 1970, but while surfing Youtube, although I can't find the Top of the Pops theme, here's another catchy tune by the Dave Davani Four: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b0y2aJPwlOQPossibly the 15/10/70 edition had the Dave Davani Four closing the show, and although I initially thought that it must be a misprint for both Jimmy Savile and Tony Blackburn to be hosting that edition, it might not be after all. The Dave Devani single is indeed as implied by a 4 piece band... bass, drums, guitar and most prominently playing the main melody, an organ. I don't think they played it on the show. As Chris pointed out, in all existing shows that feature that music, it's played live by the resident TOTP orchestra and the melody mainly played by the brass section. Plus it features backing vocals by The Ladybirds or The Breakwaays, whichever were the resident backing singers. So, I guess the Devani single was simply a cover version of a theme tune, just like Johnny Keating and Norrie Parmor's covers of the Z Cars theme in 1962 and this went on throughout the 60s... popular TV themes would often get released by two or three different acts on different labels. That was how it worked back then. If EMI were releasing a British cover of an American hit, you could almost guarantee Pye records would get one of their acts to record a quickie cover. Back then the industry was much more rapid. You could record a song one week and it would be in the shops the following Friday. Quite a lot of The Hollies singles would be released and had only been recorded in the week or two before that release date! 15-10-70 is hosted solely by Tony Blackburn. I've never seen it but doubt Jimmy Savile was involved. That was another interesting thing about 1970 - the entire year was hosted by Blackburn and Savile taking turns. Of course the original quartet of DJs - Savile, Freeman, Murray and Jacobs ended in 1967 when Jacobs quit the show. Don't forget it had expanded to 5 regulars in 1966 with Simon Dee who made such a big impression, the BBC gave him his own show - "Dee Time". As Radio One was just starting, over late 1967 and early 1968, the three remaining regulars would have a guest DJ from Radio One who were clearly being put on trial to find a new host. John Peel infamously guested with Savile on 1-2-68, forgot the name of The Amen Corner and was not asked back as a host until 25-12-81! Out of those co presenter trials it appears that Stuart Henry and Tony Blackburn made the biggest impression for they both returned during 1968 and 1969. Dave Cash initially seems to had been in the running too... the existing February 68 show features his second appearance. Freeman left during that time and Pete Murray's last appearance was the Xmas 1969 show. After that, it was decided to settle on Savile and Blackburn and so they hosted all of 1970 between them. In March 1971, Ed Stewart who had first appeared as co-presenter in January 1968 returned and became the third regular DJ. And in 1972 a 4th was added with Noel Edmonds. The Dave Devani Four are very good. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is another example. Not a television show theme but Ennio Moricone wrote it while Hugo Montenegro had the chart hit with it, danced to at one point by Pan’s People on Top of the Pops. As not many 1970 editions exist, at least at the BBC, it’s difficult to gauge if all the Database entries listed as presented by both Jimmy and Tony were actually presented by both of them. As you’ve highlighted, you’re doubtful that Jimmy featured on the 15/10/70 show. In the case of 15/02/68, Jimmy Savile is the “Top DJ”, as announced by presumably Pete Murray as the voiceover, whilst Dave Cash co-presented it with him. However, one of the August editions has alternating camera shots between a promo film of Three Dog Night-Mama (Told Me Not to Come) and Tony Blackburn and the Crowd dancing to the song. Logically, it would be from 20/08/70, but if not it will be 13/08/70, in which case Jimmy was elsewhere in the studio whilst Tony was dancing to the song. So, at least part of one of those editions exists outside the BBC. Whether the whole show or not and which of those two transmission dates remains to be seen. missingepisodes.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=radio&action=display&thread=4149 - It would also be good if there were 1960s visual recordings of David Jacobs and Simon Dee on Top of the Pops. I’m almost sure that something will have been recorded of them at some point but now of course junked, but on a good note, there’s at least one edition per presenter existing in audio only, the latter assisted by model and record spinner Samantha Juste. |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 17, 2008 19:12:39 GMT
Another interesting thing about the 15/2/68 show is The Move's performance - their last with the rather cool Ace Kefford & the original incendary line-up, by the Beat Club appearence from 2 or 3 weeks later he'd left the band he'd founded (& originally led) and they became a quartet. The live (& somewhat truncated) performance of that uncharacteristically lame Herman's Hermits hit has Peter Noone cracking up laughing throughout - which does seem to be a feature of quite a few of their surviving performances. It does seem to be true that they were all very good mates in spite of Mickie Most's style of management. I watched this earlier on and it's excellent. I've noticed some sound deterioration, probably due to the film being worn, most notably unmistakable wow and flutter in Status Quo's Pictures of Matchstick Men, but brilliant performances and presentations, some of which I haven't seen in a very long time. Good also to see the chart countdown for that edition for the first time, which like the 06/06/68 show has the numbers counting up from 1 to 20! Hopefully more 1960s complete editions will turn up to compliment those of the 1970s, and likewise to more 1970s editions, which would give further representation to Top of the Pops, whether or not any recoveries are supplied to the BBC, and more performances, and how the themes and chart countdowns, such as regular 1967 editions, were broadcast. I hope BBC Four will re-repeat this edition again and other editions previously repeated and never repeated. The live performance format went very well in those days and compliments the miming of other performances. Also, it's interesting to see that, in the 1960s, Top of the Pops had two different themes, one at the beginning, one at the end, of which 15/02/68's closing theme is a variation of successive versions, like 25/12/69, which exists outside the BBC as at least a rehearsal. I hadn’t realized Ace Kefford was the member who’d founded The Move. While most of The Move’s performances no longer exist (at least on Top of the Pops) other than Fire Brigade and California Man at the BBC and an unconfirmed performance of Brontosaurus outside the BBC, hoping that this and one or more other tracks exist somewhere, it’s good that the BBC have something, albeit too little of the group from two of their line-ups. Fire Brigade is by far, in my personal opinion, one of their best ever songs, so it’s a relief the BBC kept an edition with this song performed on it. Here are performances of their other chart hits from unidentified programmes: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1ghFMlYyh3A&feature=related – Night of Fear uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7oUwPIWCYI – I Can Hear the Grass Grow uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q6o5F0s2SjQ&feature=related – Flowers in the Rain uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5S2CwbPESo - Fire Brigade: In colour uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iirNwgdZbjM&feature=related – Blackberry Way uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dOzFl7nM2Z0 – Curly uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7ZGzUgHrU&feature=related – Brontosaurus uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r-dsikwQJiY&feature=related – Tonight uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BhCftDF8dAQ&feature=related – Chinatown uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uNClsvgv2V0&feature=related – California Man (from “Top of the Pops”) Is the fading on some 15/02/68 performances and unmistakable wow and flutter in Status Quo’s Pictures of Matchstick Men caused by worn film? The strongest fading is in the final song, Manfred Mann’s Mighty Quinn. |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 17, 2008 19:13:16 GMT
yes as peter says simon dee did make a big impression lets not forget the simon dee show and dee time there's some really good footage from these shows but i don't expect much of this survives there's a couple of clips ive seen on you tube the kinks and the walker brothers. What I’ve seen of Dee Time is very good, but sadly so little exists. It makes me wonder if any overseas archives or private owners have inserts and complete editions of this show. I think the 01/02/73 Top of the Pops was recovered from overseas? |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 17, 2008 19:14:04 GMT
No, as previously discussed here before theres not a lot of Simon Dee's shows left. "Dee Time" was one of the biggest shows of its time - 1967 to near the end of 1969 (I think his final BBC shows were in colour) - and all that's left is one complete show from 1968 and one show from 1969 missing the opening titles along with a bunch of inserts from missing editions. A real shame since he had many great musical guests (Jimi Hendrix on one occasion) but they're more or less all gone. The Walkers and Kinks clips on YouTube you refer to are from Discotec, a one off pilot which was never broadcast or developed into a series which is a shame since beneath the ropey quality is a good and interesting show. Coming back to 15-2-68, yes, I think that was Ace Kefford's final appearance with the band on BBC television. The precise date of his leaving is not known but it appears to be the first week or two in March 1968. A sad affair too since Kefford did indeed form the band and was a phenomenal bassist and vocalist. The recently released boxset of The Move opens with the bands earliest known recording rescued from an acetate - "You're The One I Need" and it's stunning stuff! A Mod and Freakbeat collision with pop art styled feedback and over all that a wonderful swaggering vocal by Kefford... a stunning opener to the whole box. Yes, Herman's Hermits TV appearances were generally light hearted affairs with much fun and humour. I love the 1965 TOTP VT clip of "Just A Little Bit Better"... never seen another TOTP performance quite like that where the singer is sat on a chair probably connected to the camera going through the audience. However, it is swiftly faded out before the final verse and chorus and I've not been able to determine here for certain if that was where the performance ended (which I doubt) and whether the BBC have the missing final part or not. I’ll try to find the Discotec clips on Youtube, which sound interesting. Upon locating Youtube uploads of The Move’s chart hits, I see that Jeff Lynne came in later on, and I’m almost sure Bev Bevan is one of the performers in the TOTP Fire Brigade performance. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrp6bBXGgc - I wish there were an existing recording of Sunshine Girl by Herman’s Hermits. Either there’s no performance from another 1968 programme or nothing’s yet been uploaded, but some live performances from earlier this decade are on Youtube. The only TOTP performance by Herman’s Hermits existing outside the BBC that I’m aware of is This Door Swings Both Ways from 16/06/66, but there’s a “Goodbye Lucky Stars” performance introduced by Keith Fordyce (04:00), with Helen Shapiro’s Shop Around and The Ivy League’s Willow Tree on either side. When recordings have counters across the top or bottom of the screen, where are they sourced from? – Private or Broadcaster t/r or video tapes? I’m intrigued as to what exists outside the BBC from 1960s Top of the Pops. No doubt not as much as from the 1970s, but the rarity by The Alan Bown- We Can Help You was a most remarkable find! I’m sure that none of us would ever have expected anyone to own that song! |
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 17, 2008 19:34:26 GMT
david when i sawthe list of performences of the move on you tube and saw chinatown listed i couldn't believe it until i checked it out and found it was just stills to the soundtrack i don't know of any footage of chinatown i don't know whether the move performed chinatown on any other tv show.i think roger whittaker had a show around 70-71 with some good footage i don't know what it was called or who was on it. i think keith badman done a review on it in record collector once.maybe you have heard of it.
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Dec 17, 2008 20:02:52 GMT
Alan it was called: Whittaker's world of music:  GUESTS: J Vincent Edwards Sylvia McNeill Rolf Harris Alan Price and Georgie Fame John Williams The New Seekers Shirley Bassey Roy Budd Trio The Mixtures Gilbert O'Sullivan Brotherhood of Man Sandie Shaw McGuinness Flint Jimmy Cliff The Dubliners Blue Mink Ashton, Gardner, Dyke Mungo Jerry Herbie Flowers Freda Payne Slade Sandie Shaw The move Peter Noone Ken Dodd Lulu Shadows Dana Nina Sacha Distel The Bee Gees Freddie Starr Val Doonican Georgia Brown Davy Jones The Tremeloes Sandie Shaw Nina Pickettywitch Many of the 13 shows made between April - July 1971 feature tracks that no longer survive at the BBC Like Slade Get Down and get with it. |
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Post by Paul Watkins on Dec 17, 2008 20:16:30 GMT
There were a few clips from Whittaker's World of Music on You Tube a few months back, but they seem to have been removed. One was The Move's - Tonight.
It's such a pity that so very little of The Move's Tv appearances survive in various Tv archives. Much of what is listed above is all that 'apparently' survives.
Recent finds include a promotional film of 'Night of Fear' filmed in a London Fashion shop. (Haven't seen this one myself yet though).
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Post by Peter Elliott on Dec 17, 2008 20:49:26 GMT
OK - in order here's the sources... Night Of Fear and I Can Hear The Grass Grow- Beat Beat Beat 1967 (German TV) - Awesome live performance... visual and audio proof of how amazing that original 5 piece were! They also performed "Walk Upon The Water" on this show. Flowers In The Rain - I'm not sure where this comes from but it was released on a BR Music DVD in 2005. It appears to be a live performance with the stereo mix dubbed on. Must be from late 68 or very early 69 - Burton is still with the group. Fire Brigade and Blackberry Way - Colour Me Pop, BBCTV January 1969. The Move performed 10 songs in this show, most of them live with 2 or 3 mimes. Great show which still exists in the BBC archive. Curly - Oh dear... this is a collage of various TV shows from over the years. It kicks off with a Jeff Lynne era clip... Jeff wasn't even on this. Only clip I've ever seen of this song is from "Beat Club". Brontosaurus - Beat Club 1970. Only clip I've seen for this song. Tonight - Disco 71, German TV. Again, only clip there seems to be for this song. Chinatown appears to be the only Move single for which I've seen no clip of. The "Night Of Fear" promo film would be wonderful to see. They also shot promos for "Flowers In The Rain" (and you could buy 8mm prints from their fan club back in the day!) and "I Can Hear The Grass Grow". According to the booklet in the recent boxset, the day the "Grass" promo was shot was the day Carl Wayne decided to take acid... so he was genuinely tripping as they shot it. It was his only trip... Carl HATED the experience. It was Ace Kefford and Trevor Burton who were the acid freaks in The Move. Roy Wood never had anything stronger than alcohol which is interesting when you consider how mad some of his songs were! There is a photo of the "Grass" shoot in the boxset booklet featuring them sat at a table in a country location! There has been talk for almost ten years now of compiling and releasing a definitive Move DVD and what's more they apparently have a load of footage that's never been seen including an early gig in London. Would be wonderful if that ever gets done. |
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Post by Chris Barratt on Dec 17, 2008 23:54:25 GMT
I may have asked this before, but does anybody know how 15/2/68 managed to survive (or any of the other b&w shows?)
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Post by Paul Watkins on Dec 18, 2008 1:08:33 GMT
OK - in order here's the sources... Night Of Fear and I Can Hear The Grass Grow- Beat Beat Beat 1967 (German TV) - Awesome live performance... visual and audio proof of how amazing that original 5 piece were! They also performed "Walk Upon The Water" on this show. Flowers In The Rain - I'm not sure where this comes from but it was released on a BR Music DVD in 2005. It appears to be a live performance with the stereo mix dubbed on. Must be from late 68 or very early 69 - Burton is still with the group. Fire Brigade and Blackberry Way - Colour Me Pop, BBCTV January 1969. The Move performed 10 songs in this show, most of them live with 2 or 3 mimes. Great show which still exists in the BBC archive. Curly - Oh dear... this is a collage of various TV shows from over the years. It kicks off with a Jeff Lynne era clip... Jeff wasn't even on this. Only clip I've ever seen of this song is from "Beat Club". Brontosaurus - Beat Club 1970. Only clip I've seen for this song. Tonight - Disco 71, German TV. Again, only clip there seems to be for this song. Chinatown appears to be the only Move single for which I've seen no clip of. 'Flowers in the rain' is from a programme called 'Jazz Bilzen' from late 1968 early 69. and also 'Tonight' exists from Whittaker's World Of Music 71. The Move also recorded a promo for 'Fire Brigade' but that has never surfaced either. You can see a videography of surviving move apps here (stills only). and also a list of all the TV they did and what survives (under 'media'). homepage.ntlworld.com/e.watkins/ |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 18, 2008 11:08:55 GMT
david when i sawthe list of performences of the move on you tube and saw chinatown listed i couldn't believe it until i checked it out and found it was just stills to the soundtrack i don't know of any footage of chinatown i don't know whether the move performed chinatown on any other tv show.i think roger whittaker had a show around 70-71 with some good footage i don't know what it was called or who was on it. i think keith badman done a review on it in record collector once.maybe you have heard of it. Sorry for listing Chinatown as a performance Alan. I very quickly looked up each chart hit by The Move and haven’t yet played them all through, so assumed they were all performances. Hopefully a visual performance will one day turn up. I’ve seen at least one performance from the Roger Whittaker show for Slade’s Get Down and Get with It, which appears to be the only existing UK recording of Slade’s chart hit. Only The Who’s Won’t Get Fooled Again exists from 15/07/71 on TOTP. I haven’t read Record Collector for a while, which was a good magazine but it’s become increasingly expensive over time, but Keith Badman did, might still do an article called “Transmission Impossible”. I’ve left a thread for Keith Badman, who must be too busy to contribute to the forum these days or hasn’t yet seen my thread, but his past contributions were of great interest, and either way, if any opportunities arise, his further contributions will be most welcome if he ever returns to the forum. |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 18, 2008 11:09:43 GMT
Alan it was called: Whittaker's world of music: Gary, which of the three editions (22/06, 29/06 and 13/07/73) in which Slade appeared in the studio to perform Skweeze Me Pleeze Me is the one that exists outside the BBC?, is it b/w or colour?, and can you confirm which is the July edition that was recovered in Germany? Related or unrelated, I’m unsure which, one July edition features both Nazareth and Suzi Quatro, which must be 20/07/73. It looks as though everything’s been kept in the archives of Whittaker’s World of Music, which is good news. The only performance I’ve seen from that show has been Slade’s Get Down and Get with It, which as far as I can tell is the only existing UK performance of the song. If ever satellite television repeats this show, I say “satellite”, as a lost of nostalgic programmes are broadcast on satellite television, I’d be very interested in watching it, to see this performance again and other groups’ performances, indeed more Slade performances, too, if they also appeared to perform other songs on Roger’s show. Seeing Peter Noone in the list of performers, was this a performance of Oh You Pretty Thing with David Bowie? On TOTP, all that’s known to exist is the 27/05/71 performance but in audio only. Also, which song did Ken Dodd perform? He was a regular performer on 1960s television but he also had a few chart hits in the early 1970s, of which probably one of these is what he performed on Roger’s show. |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 18, 2008 11:10:25 GMT
There were a few clips from Whittaker's World of Music on You Tube a few months back, but they seem to have been removed. One was The Move's - Tonight. It's such a pity that so very little of The Move's Tv appearances survive in various Tv archives. Much of what is listed above is all that 'apparently' survives. Recent finds include a promotional film of 'Night of Fear' filmed in a London Fashion shop. (Haven't seen this one myself yet though). For interest, where did you obtain information on recordings existing at the BBC on your web site that are listed as “No” on the BBC database, including The Sweet’s Wig-Wam Bam and an early appearance of Suzi Quatro’s Devil Gate Drive? Not a doubt or criticism of your information by any means. On the contrary, this is very Good news, as there’s clearly more existing at the BBC than is assumed on the BBC’s Database, and you’ve also uncovered additional performances existing outside the BBC that are missing from the database, including Elton John’s Daniel on 11/01/73. This is an excellent performance, which is one of many TOTP recordings that have been uploaded to You Tube. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e-2aW4WEHSQ – Again, not a criticism, do you have any updates on 1977 performances existing outside the BBC? I’ve found very little for that year. The only upload I’ve seen is a performance by Sailor-One Drink Too Many, in b/w! from 10/02/77. It’s a shame that the You Tube clips from Whittaker’s World of Music have since been removed, like I’ve also found to a point with Top of the Pops recordings, including Pan’s People dancing to The Partridge Family’s Walking in the Rain, which I came across just one week before it was taken down. As some clips that are removed are eventually replaced by identical clips uploaded by new owners, fingers crossed that these and other performances from the above show are uploaded in the future to You Tube. I agree that it’s very sad so little of The Move’s appearances survive in various archives, but a promo of Night of Fear is an excellent new find. Again, hopefully this will be uploaded to You Tube one day for you, I and others to enjoy watching. |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 18, 2008 11:12:43 GMT
OK - in order here's the sources... Night Of Fear and I Can Hear The Grass Grow- Beat Beat Beat 1967 (German TV) - Awesome live performance... visual and audio proof of how amazing that original 5 piece were! They also performed "Walk Upon The Water" on this show. Flowers In The Rain - I'm not sure where this comes from but it was released on a BR Music DVD in 2005. It appears to be a live performance with the stereo mix dubbed on. Must be from late 68 or very early 69 - Burton is still with the group. Fire Brigade and Blackberry Way - Colour Me Pop, BBCTV January 1969. The Move performed 10 songs in this show, most of them live with 2 or 3 mimes. Great show which still exists in the BBC archive. Curly - Oh dear... this is a collage of various TV shows from over the years. It kicks off with a Jeff Lynne era clip... Jeff wasn't even on this. Only clip I've ever seen of this song is from "Beat Club". Brontosaurus - Beat Club 1970. Only clip I've seen for this song. Tonight - Disco 71, German TV. Again, only clip there seems to be for this song. Chinatown appears to be the only Move single for which I've seen no clip of. The "Night Of Fear" promo film would be wonderful to see. They also shot promos for "Flowers In The Rain" (and you could buy 8mm prints from their fan club back in the day!) and "I Can Hear The Grass Grow". According to the booklet in the recent boxset, the day the "Grass" promo was shot was the day Carl Wayne decided to take acid... so he was genuinely tripping as they shot it. It was his only trip... Carl HATED the experience. It was Ace Kefford and Trevor Burton who were the acid freaks in The Move. Roy Wood never had anything stronger than alcohol which is interesting when you consider how mad some of his songs were! There is a photo of the "Grass" shoot in the boxset booklet featuring them sat at a table in a country location! There has been talk for almost ten years now of compiling and releasing a definitive Move DVD and what's more they apparently have a load of footage that's never been seen including an early gig in London. Would be wonderful if that ever gets done. This is very useful information. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CWLJPQMzSd0 - Among your updates, here’s an audio recording with various stills of The Move’s Walk upon the Water. I’d never heard this song before and it’s very good. Hoping the programme source was correct, You Tube formerly had a promo film of The Move-Flowers in the Rain, in colour, from the 28/09/67 edition of Top of the Pops. Although it was in colour, it could have been from TOTP, as I’ve read at some point that some recordings were made in colour in the late sixties but broadcast in b/w before November 1969 and beyond, depending on the transmitter/region when colour was introduced to BBC 1 and ITV. It’s a miracle that Colour Me Pop and Pop Go the Sixties! still exists. If anything, some other TOTP performances will have been repeated on other programmes, which don’t survive, but thankfully, some exist repeated on other programmes that still exist like Marmalade’s Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da and Tom Jones’ Delilah, which would otherwise be lost forever. Sorry about the Curly clip. Racing with the clock to note and upload as many links as I could find from July onwards, I haven’t watched all the You Tube clips up to the end, including Curly by The Move, but I see what you mean about the collage of various years’ shows. I don’t know when Jeff Lynne joined The Move, but I see that he’s rejoined ELO since 2001, which is excellent news. Like Roy Wood, he has made a brilliant impact in music, among many other artists. I read somewhere once that there’s a TOTP performance of Brontosaurus existing outside the BBC, but without any You Tube links for this and several other performances, it’s difficult to tell how many recordings are from Top of the Pops. Wherever possible, I’ve put up You Tube links, which help determine which recordings exist from TOTP and other programmes, but sadly several aren’t uploaded or were and have since been removed. I’d not seen any of the performances other than California Man before yesterday but got the incentive to look up further details after seeing the excellent performance of Fire Brigade from the BBC iPlayer. Roy Wood is a brilliant eccentric. He looks almost the same today as he did in the 1970s and has written and performed many excellent compositions. It’s interesting to see how members of The Move progressed into other bands – Roy was an early member of ELO, which Jeff Lynne took over, left then rejoined, and Bev Bevan started off in The Move before also joining ELO. I hope the Night of Fear promo film will be uploaded to You Tube one day and the promos for Flowers in the Rain. Since the promo film (stated as from TOTP, 28/09/67) of Flowers in the Rain was removed, nobody else has uploaded a replacement of the same promo film. It was in colour, and whilst Top of the Pops didn’t go into colour until 27/11/69, it’s possible, but not confirmed, that what I once saw was the promo in question shown on the Jimmy Savile edition. I hope the Move DVD will eventually be released. Like Slade and other groups, when these compilations are released, fans often find there are extra performances presumed to be wiped that have actually existed all along, or they’ve resurfaced in time for the release of the compilations. For instance, I’m not sure which Slade performances from TOTP have been added to a Slade compilation, but Noddy Holder said in an interview a few months ago that he was aware that the BBC junked several Top of the Pops due to lack of space and money but that he’d discovered there were more TOTP performances, released to the compilation, that he thought didn’t exist, which is excellent news. Possibly they’re the ones I’ve included in my “Outside the BBC 1970-1977” thread, but I’m not definite at present. |
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 18, 2008 11:14:25 GMT
'Flowers in the rain' is from a programme called 'Jazz Bilzen' from late 1968 early 69. and also 'Tonight' exists from Whittaker's World Of Music 71. The Move also recorded a promo for 'Fire Brigade' but that has never surfaced either. You can see a videography of surviving move apps here (stills only). and also a list of all the TV they did and what survives (under 'media'). homepage.ntlworld.com/e.watkins/Excellent performances of The Move. Jazz Bilzen sounds like a German programme. I’m not sure why overseas television stations, especially the German broadcasters have kept a much better archive than the BBC, but it’s good that Disco and other German programmes feature both Top of the Pops performances and other performances by artists whose TOTP performances have long since been wiped, including Curved Air-Back Street Luv and Blackfoot Sue-Standing in the Road, which as far as I know don’t exist outside the BBC on TOTP. I’d like to see The Move’s promo for Fire Brigade if it’s ever released or indeed shown on You Tube. Your web site is very comprehensive and of great interest. I’d not seen The Move section before, which unearths a few answers and compliments the information you and the others have introduced on The Move in this thread. |
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I wouldn't have known where to start in identifying the group who did the closing theme in the 1960s and most of 1970, but while surfing Youtube, although I can't find the Top of the Pops theme, here's another catchy tune by the Dave Davani Four:
