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Post by R. Williams on Oct 2, 2023 20:35:04 GMT
đź‘Ť The next thing is to ascertain whether that telecine reel survives. It doesn't: the footage we have survives only in the Blue Peter episodes themselves. Several of the BP-sourced clips crossfade to/from the presenters in studio, so fractionally more footage exists than is generally seen, albeit obscured. |
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Post by John Wall on Oct 2, 2023 21:11:25 GMT
👍 The next thing is to ascertain whether that telecine reel survives. It doesn't: the footage we have survives only in the Blue Peter episodes themselves. Several of the BP-sourced clips crossfade to/from the presenters in studio, so fractionally more footage exists than is generally seen, albeit obscured. That’s a shame, it seems that some of the BP telecine reels were preserved but it’s just our luck that the one with the TP4 clip wasn’t 👎 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 21:27:28 GMT
It doesn't: the footage we have survives only in the Blue Peter episodes themselves. Several of the BP-sourced clips crossfade to/from the presenters in studio, so fractionally more footage exists than is generally seen, albeit obscured. That’s a shame, it seems that some of the BP telecine reels were preserved but it’s just our luck that the one with the TP4 clip wasn’t 👎 Our last chance for Episode 4 is to hope that a copy survives in a private collection. |
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Post by John Wall on Oct 2, 2023 21:46:58 GMT
That’s a shame, it seems that some of the BP telecine reels were preserved but it’s just our luck that the one with the TP4 clip wasn’t 👎 Our last chance for Episode 4 is to hope that a copy survives in a private collection. It’s theoretically possible but I’m not making a beeline for Ladbrokes…. |
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Post by robertboon on Oct 5, 2023 17:20:59 GMT
The UNESCO report ' International Flow of Television Programmes' (1985) includes a table (table 4) showing the percentage of Imported Television Programmes in 1973 and 1983 and in Prime Time 1983. The figures for Hong Kong and Singapore are as follows: | Country/Institution | Imported % 1973 | Imported % 1983 | Imported % 1983
Prime Time | | Hong Kong/Asia TV Chinese | 31 | 24 | 16 | | Hong Kong/Asia TV English | 60 | 64 | 72 | | Hong Kong/Tv Ltd. | - | 27 | 9 | | Singapore/Channel 8 | 78 | 76 | 70 | | Singapore/Channel 5 | 78 | 70 | 66 |
For comparison the figures for Australia, where we know ABC, in particular. accumulated large numbers of UK programmes, before being required to return them, are 57/44/66. On the basis of those figures it seems reasonable that the stations in both Hong Kong and Singapore may have accumulated large holdings of imported programmes. So what happened to them? |
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Post by cameron seams on Oct 5, 2023 17:48:21 GMT
personally I think if there is any episodes still in Singapore and Hong-kong then they'd be with collectors who live there. While It could be possible that theirs another full serial or two sitting in an old relay station I'd think that the humid weather would have probably ruined the film by now.
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Post by RossL on Oct 5, 2023 21:29:16 GMT
personally I think if there is any episodes still in Singapore and Hong-kong then they'd be with collectors who live there. While It could be possible that theirs another full serial or two sitting in an old relay station I'd think that the humid weather would have probably ruined the film by now. Errr you dont seem to realise just how small Singapore is. Its TINY - about 20x30 miles. A reasonably fit person can walk across the entire country in under a day with time for a nice lunch and a beer half way. No need for relay stations. Any talk of episodes in tv stations in Singapore is flogging a dead horse seeing as the old studio complex no longer exists.. |
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Post by John Wall on Oct 5, 2023 23:04:19 GMT
personally I think if there is any episodes still in Singapore and Hong-kong then they'd be with collectors who live there. While It could be possible that theirs another full serial or two sitting in an old relay station I'd think that the humid weather would have probably ruined the film by now. Errr you dont seem to realise just how small Singapore is. Its TINY - about 20x30 miles. A reasonably fit person can walk across the entire country in under a day with time for a nice lunch and a beer half way. No need for relay stations. Any talk of episodes in tv stations in Singapore is flogging a dead horse seeing as the old studio complex no longer exists.. Yep, we’re on that hamster wheel……. At the risk of boring some….. My view is that Tomb ended up in HK as it was sent to Singapore prematurely, probably with Evil, and had to be returned to be broadcast. overseas broadcasts of evil and tomb 3.pdf (9.2 KB) Tomb sat on a shelf in HK until it was found and returned to Auntie. If HK had other BBC material it’s a reasonable assumption that it would have also been returned. When Tomb was returned it’s also a reasonable assumption that HK would have been asked to double check to see if they had anything else. Now let’s consider Tenth Planet. This was shown in Australia - first set of prints - and NZ and Singapores - second set of prints. There are four surviving prints: 1 x Ep. 1 2 x Ep. 2 1 x Ep. 3 This suggests that both sets of prints were returned to Auntie, therefore Singapore returned theirs. I’m sure the usual suspects will postulate other sets of prints but there is no need for them. Even without premises moves it’s unlikely that Singapore had anything, just like HK. One print of Ep. 2 made it to a collector, probably “rescued” from the destruction pile. This suggests that Auntie disposed of one set. It’s, of course, possible that another episode was “saved”, possibly 4 but that’s grasping at straws. I wonder if Enterprises were offering TP and kept one set. I’ve asked several times about 16mm collectors in places like HK and Singapore, but without success. Dead horses are being flogged here! |
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