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Post by cameron seams on Jul 11, 2023 21:03:05 GMT
I'm betting at least one more missing episode will be found in his collection.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Jul 11, 2023 21:42:53 GMT
There's certainly a chance (and I'd be surprised if there wasn't something interesting from other programs). In the short to medium-term, it seems to have more potential than any of the rumours floating around. This project is perhaps our last best hope for a new peace of Doctor Who.  |
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Post by billardery on Jul 11, 2023 22:52:53 GMT
This project, and the future estates of other film collectors. I'm sure Mr. Burnett wasn't the only one with heaps of unidentified films, and I wouldn't be surprised if arrangements have been made / are in the works with other collectors and their families to preserve their collections after they pass.
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Post by John Wall on Jul 11, 2023 23:16:50 GMT
Obviously I’d like more DW MEs returned but I wouldn’t put money on another from this source.
MEs from collectors have usually been in pairs, probably how they were “acquired” from Auntie’s destruction pile in the 70s.
Ralph Montagu was aware of this which facilitated the return of the second ME from Burnett, he correctly reasoned that if he’d bought one from another collector, he’d probably bought two.
There may well be all sorts of goodies to come but I think another DW ME is unlikely.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Jul 11, 2023 23:34:27 GMT
Obviously I’d like more DW MEs returned but I wouldn’t put money on another from this source. MEs from collectors have usually been in pairs, probably how they were “acquired” from Auntie’s destruction pile in the 70s. Ralph Montagu was aware of this which facilitated the return of the second ME from Burnett, he correctly reasoned that if he’d bought one from another collector, he’d probably bought two. There may well be all sorts of goodies to come but I think another DW ME is unlikely. Not wishing to rain on anyone's parade, but it was my observation that films with collectors usually travelled in pairs. Examples? David Stead (Wheel in Space 3, Dominators 5... and another one in Spanish...so that's three) Francis Watson (Masterplan 2, Daleks 5) although strictly speaking he wasn't a collector Gordon Hendry (Evil 2, Faceless Ones 3) Bruce Campbell (Reign of Terror 3&6) Bruce actually sourced these from a private collector Terry Burnett (Galaxy 4, Underwater Menace 2) When Ralph called me to tell me that Galaxy 4 had turned up with a film collector he knew, the first thing I asked him was if Terry had a second print because they often travelled in pairs. I was told no. 8 weeks later, I had a second call from Ralph and he had the Underwater Menace print on the Steenbeck. From his description of the splices during the opening scene, I identified it as the Australian print. I didn't really need to examine it in person. As for speculation that Terry may have another episodes... I'd say not a chance. He knew what he had and he would have certainly said something if he had another Doctor Who. Paul |
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Post by billardery on Jul 12, 2023 0:00:34 GMT
While disappointing, that is a fascinating insight.
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Post by John Wall on Jul 12, 2023 7:47:19 GMT
Obviously I’d like more DW MEs returned but I wouldn’t put money on another from this source. MEs from collectors have usually been in pairs, probably how they were “acquired” from Auntie’s destruction pile in the 70s. Ralph Montagu was aware of this which facilitated the return of the second ME from Burnett, he correctly reasoned that if he’d bought one from another collector, he’d probably bought two. There may well be all sorts of goodies to come but I think another DW ME is unlikely. Not wishing to rain on anyone's parade, but it was my observation that films with collectors usually travelled in pairs. Examples? David Stead (Wheel in Space 3, Dominators 5... and another one in Spanish...so that's three) Francis Watson (Masterplan 2, Daleks 5) although strictly speaking he wasn't a collector Gordon Hendry (Evil 2, Faceless Ones 3) Bruce Campbell (Reign of Terror 3&6) Bruce actually sourced these from a private collector Terry Burnett (Galaxy 4, Underwater Menace 2) When Ralph called me to tell me that Galaxy 4 had turned up with a film collector he knew, the first thing I asked him was if Terry had a second print because they often travelled in pairs. I was told no. 8 weeks later, I had a second call from Ralph and he had the Underwater Menace print on the Steenbeck. From his description of the splices during the opening scene, I identified it as the Australian print. I didn't really need to examine it in person. As for speculation that Terry may have another episodes... I'd say not a chance. He knew what he had and he would have certainly said something if he had another Doctor Who. Paul Very happy to credit Paul for the insight 👍 However, I think I can possibly claim to be the first to compare them to Krynoid Pods 👍 |
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Post by emjayf on Jul 16, 2023 11:29:29 GMT
Some of you might be interested to see the discussions we were having 25 years ago about this. groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.drwho/c/ZVVXoPVkDak/m/z0OeSsgXQugJI see now that my statement about "little pieces of paper" was debunked by Richard Molesworth at the time. Sorry to repeat that now - I'd forgotten. And I do now have the boxed set of Thriller :-) though I'm too frightened to watch most of it! Richard Thriller and Out of the Unknown are a must see, in my opinion. I would love some more Out Of The Unknown! I bought the excellent DVD set a couple of years back and thoroughly enjoyed what was there, including the great recons. I know those would be even rarer to get back than Who but it would be a joy. MJ |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2023 15:10:04 GMT
Wonder what became of the film from the Fury of the Deep can? And where was this film can from? Singapore? View AttachmentThere was an episode of 'The Ice Warriors' in it. But we don't think those four films were returns from abroad. We think they are the Enterprises telerecording editors copies. Except they have no cuts to them. My belief is that the missing episodes 2 & 3 weren't there because they had cuts made to them. Therefore, the films would have been sent to the negative cutter so that any changes made to the print could be made to the negative. Paul Paul, Sorry to bring this up, but do you remember which episode of The Ice Warriors was inside the Fury of the Deep can? |
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Sept 16, 2024 9:00:47 GMT
Paul?
"the films would have been sent to the negative cutter so that any changes made to the print could be made to the negative".
Why would scenes be cut out at V House?
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