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Post by RossL on Apr 24, 2023 17:08:52 GMT
Ok I probably wouldn’t do 10 grand but I would give a really good offer for the right episodes But define "the right episode" Is one of the Daleks episodes worth more than an episode of the Highlanders? Is Web 3 worth more than a Polo episode because Web 3 completes a story? What happens if you pay 10 grand for Web 3 & by some enormous fluke a second copy is offered a few days later? Is the second copy now worthless? And what happens if its an episode you dont personally care for? Are you still going to pay up?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 17:46:39 GMT
I haven’t come across a Classic Who episode I didn’t like yet and I’ve not got a crazy amount left to go.
It does very much depend you’re correct. For example Evil of the Daleks and the Abominable Snowmen would be quite high up the list yet I think the animations are perfect and the stories are so engaging that I forget I’m watching animation so would that be worth it to me? Maybe, maybe not?
Would Season 3 be worth more to be able to see something from a story with absolutely no visuals currently? Maybe but then Season 3 is my least favourite 60’s season (still love it what I have seen mind you)
If the example you gave with Web 3 happened then that would suck but I would be happy for everyone else because I would give the episode to the restoration team to get it restored right probably anyway. I don’t think Web 3 would be worth anywhere near 10 grand though because the telesnap for it is really good and the rest of the story is there, it doesn’t feel as vital.
Having said that it would probably be missing Season 5 stuff which would be of most interest to me but then again it’s almost all animated now and to a really high level so who knows
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 17:48:21 GMT
To sum up Ross maybe you’re right and none of the missing episodes are worth substantial money. I’m just glad we’ve at least got what we’ve got. That’s the main thing to me
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Post by RossL on Apr 24, 2023 18:47:17 GMT
As I see it we have 97 episodes missing. Hopefully in time that will edge down past 90. We know there are a few orphan episodes stashed away in collections, but they are privately owned, not available to the public and are therefore as good as lost at this moment. Maybe in time a few of the half dozen will become available.
BUT - its a bloody miracle what we do have and all classic DW fans should be almighty grateful to the dozens of people who have been involved in recovering material over the years!
Is there going to be a recovery announced this year for the 60th anniversary? I would like to think so - but the only way to find out is to wait (or have a ride in a Tardis forward a few months!)
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Post by andyparting on Apr 24, 2023 18:54:54 GMT
To me, when you link the word money with missing epsiodes it spells the death of any returns.
If one collector got money offered, and the other collectors got wind of it, surely they would demand money too? Negotiations and good relations would surely wither under the blast of the wind blowing in the wrong direction.
Have any episodes ever been returned through money being offered?
Best left to careful and patient negotiation, me thinks.
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Post by Frank Shailes on May 6, 2023 1:38:01 GMT
We know there are a few orphan episodes stashed away in collections, but they are privately owned, not available to the public and are therefore as good as lost at this moment. We don't know that at all. It's just a rumour.
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Post by andyparting on May 6, 2023 13:12:09 GMT
To sum up Ross maybe you’re right and none of the missing episodes are worth substantial money. I’m just glad we’ve at least got what we’ve got. That’s the main thing to me Agree. I'll always be grateful for Paradise Towers.
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Post by andyparting on May 6, 2023 13:14:32 GMT
We know there are a few orphan episodes stashed away in collections, but they are privately owned, not available to the public and are therefore as good as lost at this moment. We don't know that at all. It's just a rumour. Didn't a couple of episode-hunters confirm that there are in fact episodes in private collections, that this is not rumour? Has there been a further development since then?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 6, 2023 18:33:50 GMT
To sum up Ross maybe you’re right and none of the missing episodes are worth substantial money. I’m just glad we’ve at least got what we’ve got. That’s the main thing to me Agree. I'll always be grateful for Paradise Towers. And I get goosebumps when I think that Warriors of the Deep is safely stored away in the archives for us to enjoy even when all the energy in the Universe has dissipated.
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Post by Frank Shailes on May 7, 2023 19:43:27 GMT
We don't know that at all. It's just a rumour. Didn't a couple of episode-hunters confirm that there are in fact episodes in private collections, that this is not rumour? Has there been a further development since then? How do you mean "confirm"? Do you mean it's rumoured that they confirmed it? No-one has seen them. Hence, rumour. Same as it has always been.
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Post by John Wall on May 7, 2023 20:07:58 GMT
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Post by scotttelfer on May 7, 2023 20:18:56 GMT
Didn't a couple of episode-hunters confirm that there are in fact episodes in private collections, that this is not rumour? Has there been a further development since then? How do you mean "confirm"? Do you mean it's rumoured that they confirmed it? No-one has seen them. Hence, rumour. Same as it has always been.
They mean it has been publicly spoken about and confirmed that there are episodes in private hands and that there are delicate long-term negotiations under way for their return (this is understandably as far as the information goes). If we'd all seen them then it wouldn't be a missing episode any more, would it?
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 7, 2023 23:52:56 GMT
They mean it has been publicly spoken about and confirmed that there are episodes in private hands and that there are delicate long-term negotiations under way for their return (this is understandably as far as the information goes). If we'd all seen them then it wouldn't be a missing episode any more, would it?
Which instances do you think it’s been actually confirmed, Scott?
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Post by scotttelfer on May 8, 2023 1:07:52 GMT
They mean it has been publicly spoken about and confirmed that there are episodes in private hands and that there are delicate long-term negotiations under way for their return (this is understandably as far as the information goes). If we'd all seen them then it wouldn't be a missing episode any more, would it?
Which instances do you think it’s been actually confirmed, Scott?
The one I personally was thinking of was the case Paul Vanezis discussed of episodes being held by a collector. It's been years now, if it was all a hoax we would have heard a correction by now.
We aren't going to be privy to everything (and frankly we shouldn't be) but a lack of information resulting in certain portions of the fanbase breaking out into speculation is very different from suggesting the whole thing is just hearsay and rumours. All we know is that there is stuff out there, that's it. All we can do is continue to wait and be patient.
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 8, 2023 8:28:19 GMT
Which instances do you think it’s been actually confirmed, Scott? The one I personally was thinking of was the case Paul Vanezis discussed of episodes being held by a collector. It's been years now, if it was all a hoax we would have heard a correction by now.
We aren't going to be privy to everything (and frankly we shouldn't be) but a lack of information resulting in certain portions of the fanbase breaking out into speculation is very different from suggesting the whole thing is just hearsay and rumours. All we know is that there is stuff out there, that's it. All we can do is continue to wait and be patient.
This is why I was somewhat wary of you using words like "confirmed" in this context. Paul said in 2019 that he has seen the cans, but not the films themselves, so he isn't in a position to confirm that the contents match what's written on the outside. I don't believe that Paul is engaged in any "delicate long-term negotiations" with these. He knows where the cans are and he knows who owns them, but until the individual concerned chooses to allow the BBC access to them to professionally check the contents (i.e. not just put them on a projector to show them), they're not really confirmed either way at this moment in time.
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