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Post by RhysH on Aug 12, 2023 7:18:41 GMT
Holy moly! Busy day at work yesterday and didn’t see this until now! Pre-ordered and can’t wait! So pleased we have a new animation to look forward to! Gives real hope for completing some of these seasons! |
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Post by stevehoare61 on Aug 12, 2023 14:17:40 GMT
Im clearly in the minority, being so close to the 60th Anniversary, and this being the November release, I did expect something a little more exciting than The Underwater Menace from BBC DVD. Its not a good story, and we've not long had a release, so why couldnt they have left this release a little longer and put out something un seen, with no existing eps, which may have been more exciting. Im sure I will be called a miserable old git, blah blah, but I am a bit disappointed with this.
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Post by emjayf on Aug 12, 2023 14:23:04 GMT
I did expect something a little more exciting than The Underwater Menace from BBC DVD. Its not a good story, and we've not long had a release, so why couldnt they have left this release a little longer and put out something un seen, with no existing eps, which may have been more exciting. I understand what you mean but it has been 8 years since the DVD came out and it was a very poor release. I guess it was the same situation with Enemy/Web and their fuller releases. They were only re-released a few years later but with extras and commentaries. Hopefully there are more delights to come to make you (and us) happier! Cheers MJ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 14:28:55 GMT
I have a question. If they return episodes 1 and 4 of the Underwater Menace to the BBC, will they just pull a Tomb of the Cyberman and just release the recovered episodes first then delay the animation by a year OR will they still release the animated version but include the original and recovered episodes as a bonus?
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Post by George D on Aug 12, 2023 15:20:32 GMT
I have a question. If they return episodes 1 and 4 of the Underwater Menace to the BBC... I'm sorry but couldn't resist Who is the they? And what makes you think anyone has them? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 16:21:35 GMT
I have a question. If they return episodes 1 and 4 of the Underwater Menace to the BBC... I'm sorry but couldn't resist Who is the they? And what makes you think anyone has them? Private collectors... |
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Post by John Wall on Aug 12, 2023 16:35:27 GMT
It does seem that the reports are fairly accurate, but the Smugglers was just colourisation of clips - supposedly shown last weekend. yeah when I saw this I also assumed that it meant the smugglers was the colourused clips this is still great news though. Any news where the fundings come from? Since America appeared to of dried up I'd be surprised if the BBC had just paid for it itself I expect the source of the funding may be made known. This is something that’s realistically been on the cards for a while and is another piece of the jigsaw. |
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Post by mattg on Aug 12, 2023 16:49:42 GMT
Oh BBC your cup runeth over! First you got me into the 60th Anniversary ‘swing’ by magnanimously charging 55 quid for the upcoming Season 20 (a full £15 price increase in little over a year that, despite specious claims to the contrary, has far more to do with shameless profiteering than a faltering economy and/or escalating inflation rate). Then, as if that wasn’t exciting enough, you’re now animating a story that, to put it kindly, tends not to feature in most fans’ ‘best of’ lists. I think it might be a good time to put that precipitously extracted cork back in the champagne bottle… If that really is it for this milestone anniversary year then it’s all a bit underwhelming tbh*. I hardly expected a load of missing episodes back of course but at least the also rumoured ‘Smugglers would’ve arguably been a better candidate for animation. Though debatably a story with less commercial potential it’s still far superior overall to bloody ‘Menace! *Admittedly I’m discounting Nu Who’s anniversary plans but if you’d watched it lately you (probably) would too.  |
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Post by andyparting on Aug 12, 2023 17:22:26 GMT
Oh BBC your cup runeth over! First you got me into the 60th Anniversary ‘swing’ by magnanimously charging 55 quid for the upcoming Season 20 (a full £15 price increase in little over a year that, despite specious claims to the contrary, has far more to do with shameless profiteering than a faltering economy and/or escalating inflation rate). Then, as if that wasn’t exciting enough, you’re now animating a story that, to put it kindly, tends not to feature in most fans’ ‘best of’ lists. I think it might be a good time to put that precipitously extracted cork back in the champagne bottle… If that really is it for this milestone anniversary year then it’s all a bit underwhelming tbh*. I hardly expected a load of missing episodes back of course but at least the also rumoured ‘Smugglers would’ve arguably been a better candidate for animation. Though debatably a story with less commercial potential it’s still far superior overall to bloody ‘Menace! *Admittedly I’m discounting Nu Who’s anniversary plans but if you’d watched it lately you (probably) would too. Hold on til the 100th, Matt, there should be an episode of The Space Pirates returned in time for that, fingers crossed. Meanwhile, UM animated will do for the 60th. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Aug 12, 2023 17:31:49 GMT
Oh BBC your cup runeth over! First you got me into the 60th Anniversary ‘swing’ by magnanimously charging 55 quid for the upcoming Season 20 (a full £15 price increase in little over a year that, despite specious claims to the contrary, has far more to do with shameless profiteering than a faltering economy and/or escalating inflation rate). A - No such claims have ever been made and... B - If you think that runaway inflation has no impact on the price you pay for things, then you'd better crawl back under that rock that you've been blissfully living your life under for the past couple of years.  So what are you saying here? The BBC should only animate the stories that you and your mates think are the good ones and leave the rest regardless whether or not other people like them? I can't see anything wrong with The Underwater Menace myself and it seems a perefectly good choice. After the return of Episode 2 in 2011, the story went up somewhat in people's estimations. At the moment, I'm thinking of somewhere else it could go... |
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Post by John Wall on Aug 12, 2023 17:36:50 GMT
“IS THAT IT?”
Well, I dunno - but doubt it. The anniversary is almost three and a half months away. There’s time to announce another BluRay set, possibly Season 11 with a fully restored IotD1, or maybe Season 7 with a better version of AoD. If a new funding stream for animations has been found perhaps Wheel could be on the list.
I’m sure that books and documentaries are being worked on, there are still a few around who were involved back in 1963. I’ve previously speculated - albeit without any evidence! - that one or two MEs will be announced.
Everything crossed 👍
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Post by barneyhall on Aug 12, 2023 19:43:50 GMT
Oh BBC your cup runeth over! First you got me into the 60th Anniversary ‘swing’ by magnanimously charging 55 quid for the upcoming Season 20 (a full £15 price increase in little over a year that, despite specious claims to the contrary, has far more to do with shameless profiteering than a faltering economy and/or escalating inflation rate). Then, as if that wasn’t exciting enough, you’re now animating a story that, to put it kindly, tends not to feature in most fans’ ‘best of’ lists. I think it might be a good time to put that precipitously extracted cork back in the champagne bottle… If that really is it for this milestone anniversary year then it’s all a bit underwhelming tbh*. I hardly expected a load of missing episodes back of course but at least the also rumoured ‘Smugglers would’ve arguably been a better candidate for animation. Though debatably a story with less commercial potential it’s still far superior overall to bloody ‘Menace! *Admittedly I’m discounting Nu Who’s anniversary plans but if you’d watched it lately you (probably) would too. I agree with you on the new who... the return or tennant and RTD just screams desperation and in my head cannon it ended dat the docs original 23 lives. That's where our agreements end your post feels a little entitled. I'd prefer the price hadn't gone up for Season 20 but compared to some of the prices I paid for 23 24 and 26 content wise this ones a bargain (Not sighting those other seasons there is only so much you can do with a 4 story season) and I want all the missing stories animated...with most the daleks done and a fair chunk of the cybermen it is down to slim pickings on a "big" release. I also imagine with the discussions about funding and lack of or a new source a 4 parter would always win over a 6 or 12 part epic. So if you loon st 4 parters.... then see one with 2 complete episode and telesnaps so buckets of available material to work from it becomes a rather obvious pick. Il support the release as A I think it's an under rated story and B I want more animations and I want better animations and I want them more challenging ones to be done and that will only be done by championing and being grateful for the efforts that are made not poo pooing them. |
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Post by mattg on Aug 12, 2023 21:21:48 GMT
Oh BBC your cup runeth over! First you got me into the 60th Anniversary ‘swing’ by magnanimously charging 55 quid for the upcoming Season 20 (a full £15 price increase in little over a year that, despite specious claims to the contrary, has far more to do with shameless profiteering than a faltering economy and/or escalating inflation rate). Then, as if that wasn’t exciting enough, you’re now animating a story that, to put it kindly, tends not to feature in most fans’ ‘best of’ lists. I think it might be a good time to put that precipitously extracted cork back in the champagne bottle… If that really is it for this milestone anniversary year then it’s all a bit underwhelming tbh*. I hardly expected a load of missing episodes back of course but at least the also rumoured ‘Smugglers would’ve arguably been a better candidate for animation. Though debatably a story with less commercial potential it’s still far superior overall to bloody ‘Menace! *Admittedly I’m discounting Nu Who’s anniversary plans but if you’d watched it lately you (probably) would too. Your post feels a little entitled. Well you’ve got me bang to rights there because as a longstanding paying customer I do indeed feel a little entitled - to receive goods of proportionate quality to their cost and for the latter to be subject to reasonable incremental increases. As this is not normally an issue I feel prompted, or ‘entitled’ if you prefer, to remark upon it now. Judging by attitudes across fandom I’m far from alone on that score too... What’s the official line from the BBC justifying this substantial price hike btw? Inflation? Ukraine? Brexit? Covid? Capitalism? Mars and Jupiter not in proper alignment? Perhaps all of the above… Regardless, as before, I’m not questioning the fact that prices (inevitably) rise here but rather the scale and rapidity of those increases. A crucial distinction. |
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Post by mattg on Aug 12, 2023 21:27:39 GMT
Upon reflection I may have been a little harsh on ‘Underwater Menace earlier for I had unforgivably forgotten one of its (few) positive attributes: Joseph Furst’s maniac ‘inebriated distant cousin of indeterminate nationality at wedding’ style performance! The animators have got their work cut out for them trying to accurately capture his wild gesticulations in cartoon form.  |
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Post by odysseaschristou on Aug 13, 2023 11:07:43 GMT
I have stopped pre-ordering/ordering on release Blu-ray/4K dvd’s, I now wait for the price to drop or pickup a second hand copy. But I want to support the chance of any future animated Doctor Who, so I have pre-recorded The Underwater Menace. I will hold back on the Season 20 release though, for now.
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