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Post by RhysH on Mar 24, 2021 13:32:28 GMT
Ok, I couldn't find any decent threads on the BluRay collection sets, which is fair enough as this is a missing episodes site, but as these sets are eventually going to look at the Missing episodes seasons, I thought it might be ok to share a bit of news. It has been announced today that they are releasing the collection sets in "standard" editions to accompany the Limited editions released so far. Seasons 12 and 19 have been scheduled as the first of these: release date 31st May. The Limited editions will continue to be released, this is just to aid those who missed out on them and to stick some fingers up to the e-bay scalpers! The standard editions are not limited and will continue to be reprinted as stocks run low. The article is below and they are on Amazon and other sites to pre-order as of right now: www.doctorwho.tv/news/?article=doctor-who-the-collection-range-standard-packagingGood news for anyone who has not started collecting because they missed out on earlier sets, and the boxes they come in look like they might neatly fill gaps for those who have missed out on some of the sets released so far. Just as a reminder for those interesting in starting to collect these, we have had these seasons released to date as Limited editions: Season 8 Season 10 Season 12 (Standard edition available to pre-order) Season 14 Season 18 Season 19 (Standard edition available to pre-order) Season 23 Season 26 + Season 24 is available to pre-order, and it's rumoured we will get another before the end of the year. And hopefully we can get some of the b/w seasons released in the not too distant future with Pat's era getting closer to completion on the animation front. |
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Mar 24, 2021 15:36:40 GMT
I kind of hope they’d be last... just to give the universe a bit more time to return missing material. Kinda dread the idea of a Season 3 box set... and then all the sudden the two eps Paul mentioned shows up. Or maybe a Season 2 and then a few months later the two missing Crusade episodes are found.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Mar 24, 2021 15:37:17 GMT
Fully realizing that the chances of that happening are slim... but still...
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Post by mattg on Mar 24, 2021 15:40:06 GMT
This is good news, not least because it should also aid those of us lumbered with defective discs of which can’t be replaced because the limited editions have long since sold out!
Though I really like these sets the Beeb’s quality control has been utterly abysmal at times. Worse, I don’t watch everything straight away so imagine my frustration months after release sitting down for the last story from the Season 14 set I hadn’t yet tried: The Hand of Fear, only to discover chronic motion juddering (a recurring problem with these collections) rendering it unwatchable!
Really hope the BBC have now overcome these infuriatingly consistent technical issues, especially a full eight releases in at the time of writing...
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Post by RhysH on Mar 24, 2021 15:58:31 GMT
Agreed Mark - I'm sure they will leave them as long as poss with 11 seasons they can work on still that not missing any. But hey, if they release them and then we get an episode or 2 back - it's still good news! They can always release a replacement disk we can slot back into our collection sets or something clever like that.
Matt - ah I hear that! The sets are so comprehensive, it's a tough ask for anyone to get through a set in full! I'm a chap who had all the video's and so I gave DVD a miss as I couldn't face replacing them all at that point, and so was all over these sets when they were announced! This means even more extras for me to get through that I hadn't seen on the dvd's!
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Post by scotttelfer on Mar 24, 2021 16:21:35 GMT
Obviously we all hope missing material will return, but for now the animation/recon pairings are our best stopgap.
I'm hoping we'll be a "restored" Season 5 in time for the 60th anniversary once the animations are done.
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Post by mattg on Mar 24, 2021 17:19:10 GMT
Agreed Mark - I'm sure they will leave them as long as poss with 11 seasons they can work on still that not missing any. But hey, if they release them and then we get an episode or 2 back - it's still good news! They can always release a replacement disk we can slot back into our collection sets or something clever like that. Matt - ah I hear that! The sets are so comprehensive, it's a tough ask for anyone to get through a set in full! I'm a chap who had all the video's and so I gave DVD a miss as I couldn't face replacing them all at that point, and so was all over these sets when they were announced! This means even more extras for me to get through that I hadn't seen on the dvd's! Speaking of “even more extras” have you seen what the BBC are promising (threatening?!) on the upcoming Season 24 blu ray set? Over a DAY’s worth (25 hours no less) of previously unseen raw location footage (amongst lots of other goodies obviously)! ...it’s almost as if the Beeb is acutely aware of the season’s exceedingly poor reputation and that it will be a far tougher sell to non-completionists than previous releases! I was going to buy Season 24 anyway of course only now I’m actually looking forward to parting with my cash!  |
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Post by RhysH on Mar 24, 2021 19:02:47 GMT
Agreed Mark - I'm sure they will leave them as long as poss with 11 seasons they can work on still that not missing any. But hey, if they release them and then we get an episode or 2 back - it's still good news! They can always release a replacement disk we can slot back into our collection sets or something clever like that. Matt - ah I hear that! The sets are so comprehensive, it's a tough ask for anyone to get through a set in full! I'm a chap who had all the video's and so I gave DVD a miss as I couldn't face replacing them all at that point, and so was all over these sets when they were announced! This means even more extras for me to get through that I hadn't seen on the dvd's! Speaking of “even more extras” have you seen what the BBC are promising (threatening?!) on the upcoming Season 24 blu ray set? Over a DAY’s worth (25 hours no less) of previously unseen raw location footage (amongst lots of other goodies obviously)! ...it’s almost as if the Beeb is acutely aware of the season’s exceedingly poor reputation and that it will be a far tougher sell to non-completionists than previous releases! I was going to buy Season 24 anyway of course only now I’m actually looking forward to parting with my cash! Blimey! That is a good load of extras! Fair do's to them for adding all that on for the shorter seasons. I asked Chris Chapman a question on Twitter over the weekend (he's heavily involved on the extra's they film for the sets), in particular about the Behind the Sofa feature and if Colin Baker would be watching the infamous regeneration in Time and the Rani and he mentioned that he was and is also joined by Peter Davison! Good stuff as I think it would be interesting to see hear his (Colin's) thoughts on it. Have no issues with him not coming back for it the way he was treated, but it was all related to limiting his choices for new jobs. He still continues to give a lot back to the series, so hat's off to the fella. |
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Post by RhysH on Mar 24, 2021 19:07:10 GMT
Obviously we all hope missing material will return, but for now the animation/recon pairings are our best stopgap. I'm hoping we'll be a "restored" Season 5 in time for the 60th anniversary once the animations are done. Agreed - that one looks promising and Season 6 also could be a contender with just 1 story left to animate. Part of me thinks - they have 2 years to the anniversary.... If they got Marco Polo done in that time frame (I know it's tricky, and I know on paper it is one of the more likely stories to be found), then Season 1 being released in 60th Anniversary year? That might be quite nice! |
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Post by scotttelfer on Mar 24, 2021 21:56:54 GMT
Obviously we all hope missing material will return, but for now the animation/recon pairings are our best stopgap. I'm hoping we'll be a "restored" Season 5 in time for the 60th anniversary once the animations are done. Agreed - that one looks promising and Season 6 also could be a contender with just 1 story left to animate. Part of me thinks - they have 2 years to the anniversary.... If they got Marco Polo done in that time frame (I know it's tricky, and I know on paper it is one of the more likely stories to be found), then Season 1 being released in 60th Anniversary year? That might be quite nice!
If they were to animate Marco Polo in the next few years, it's definitely getting a 2023 release. I would love it if they would do Marco Polo at the start of the year and then have a Season 1 set for the anniversary, but that's going to depend on a lot of factors and the BBC actively pushing for it. I can absolutely see a scenario where they rush out Season 1 for the anniversary then have a "second edition" later down the line with Marco Polo included.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 24, 2021 22:08:29 GMT
This is good news, not least because it should also aid those of us lumbered with defective discs of which can’t be replaced because the limited editions have long since sold out! Though I really like these sets the Beeb’s quality control has been utterly abysmal at times. Worse, I don’t watch everything straight away so imagine my frustration months after release sitting down for the last story from the Season 14 set I hadn’t yet tried: The Hand of Fear, only to discover chronic motion juddering (a recurring problem with these collections) rendering it unwatchable! Really hope the BBC have now overcome these infuriatingly consistent technical issues, especially a full eight releases in at the time of writing... The number of technical issues has actually been very small compared to the volume of material produced and virtually non-existant in the past couple of years. And your motion judder (especially given that you've evidently experienced it more than once) sounds far more like it's a problem with the setup on your BR player or television than any issue with the discs themselves. |
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Post by stevegerald on Mar 24, 2021 23:14:37 GMT
I kind of hope they’d be last... just to give the universe a bit more time to return missing material. Kinda dread the idea of a Season 3 box set... and then all the sudden the two eps Paul mentioned shows up. Or maybe a Season 2 and then a few months later the two missing Crusade episodes are found. I mean, this could somewhat apply to any season. You could release Season 7 and then the trims from Spearhead are found. You could release Season 9 and then a PAL copy of The Mutants episode 1 is found. You could release Season 22 and then the film inserts from The Two Doctors are found. |
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Mar 25, 2021 12:34:07 GMT
This is good news, not least because it should also aid those of us lumbered with defective discs of which can’t be replaced because the limited editions have long since sold out! Though I really like these sets the Beeb’s quality control has been utterly abysmal at times. Worse, I don’t watch everything straight away so imagine my frustration months after release sitting down for the last story from the Season 14 set I hadn’t yet tried: The Hand of Fear, only to discover chronic motion juddering (a recurring problem with these collections) rendering it unwatchable! Really hope the BBC have now overcome these infuriatingly consistent technical issues, especially a full eight releases in at the time of writing... The number of technical issues has actually been very small compared to the volume of material produced and virtually non-existant in the past couple of years. And your motion judder (especially given that you've evidently experienced it more than once) sounds far more like it's a problem with the setup on your BR player or television than any issue with the discs themselves. Being the proud owner of all the Collection releases to date, has motion juddering had really been a "recurring problem" on these sets? Certainly not in my experience and I don't recall it being flagged up on any forum over the last few years. There have been a few technical issues, but as Richard quite rightly says, very small in number. I have generally found these sets to be superb, especially when it comes to picture & sound quality. |
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Post by mattg on Mar 25, 2021 13:19:59 GMT
This is good news, not least because it should also aid those of us lumbered with defective discs of which can’t be replaced because the limited editions have long since sold out! Though I really like these sets the Beeb’s quality control has been utterly abysmal at times. Worse, I don’t watch everything straight away so imagine my frustration months after release sitting down for the last story from the Season 14 set I hadn’t yet tried: The Hand of Fear, only to discover chronic motion juddering (a recurring problem with these collections) rendering it unwatchable! Really hope the BBC have now overcome these infuriatingly consistent technical issues, especially a full eight releases in at the time of writing... The number of technical issues has actually been very small compared to the volume of material produced and virtually non-existant in the past couple of years. And your motion judder (especially given that you've evidently experienced it more than once) sounds far more like it's a problem with the setup on your BR player or television than any issue with the discs themselves. ...I don’t mean to boast (much) Richard but my swanky, obscenely expensive Panasonic DPUB-9000 player really isn’t the problem here. It certainly doesn’t struggle with anything else (classic Who excepted) I play through it - including the other stories from Season 14. Ditto my TV. I also neglected to mention those fans more unfortunate than myself who’ve reported receiving mislabelled and occasionally even mis-pressed discs containing the wrong season inside their box sets! Try as I might I cannot recall of any other set of releases - including those of other BBC shows, with such consistent (if relative) problems tbh. Still, it does at least seem that the the worst of it is behind us now. |
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Post by mattg on Mar 25, 2021 13:35:08 GMT
The number of technical issues has actually been very small compared to the volume of material produced and virtually non-existant in the past couple of years. And your motion judder (especially given that you've evidently experienced it more than once) sounds far more like it's a problem with the setup on your BR player or television than any issue with the discs themselves. Being the proud owner of all the Collection releases to date, has motion juddering had really been a "recurring problem" on these sets? Overall, for some fans (and arguably more than would be considered merely average for a defect rate), actually yes. For me, the motion juddering and other technical issues encountered on some discs (but tellingly not others in the very same set) is either a manufacturing issue... or my £850 4K player and OLED TV can’t cope! Given that the former plays EVERYTHING else (non-Classic Who) just dandy, I’m rather inclined to believe the former tbh. Regardless, I genuinely wasn’t trying to derail the thread with either complaints or negativity - and my copy of the recently released Season 8 is just superb so I’ll leave things here! |
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