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JFK
Nov 18, 2013 15:13:02 GMT
Post by ashleywood on Nov 18, 2013 15:13:02 GMT
Well there's some interesting footage of a secret service guy being ordered off the back of JFK's car at Love Field Airport. The press bus was too far behind JFK's car to film anything significant. There was also a very short interview with a pigeon who is heard saying "coup,coup". It is believed this footage was destroyed shortly after as it has not been seen since. By the way congratulations to Allen Dulles,David Atlee Phillips et al. on a job well done. 50 years...who'd have thunk it.
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Post by ashleywood on Nov 17, 2013 21:12:01 GMT
This is what the BBC still has as far as i know. Hope it's useful. The date is the recording date. Yes Everydays 4'25" 04.08.69 Yes Looking Around 3'45" 04.08.69 Yes Looking Around 3'48" 04.08.69 Yes Perpetual Change 7'10" Yes Sweet Dreams 19.01.70 Yes Then 19.01.70 Yes Wonderous Stories 3'45" Yes Yours Is No Disgrace 10'24"
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Post by ashleywood on Nov 17, 2013 10:45:27 GMT
I hope this is true but as far as i can tell this rumour has sprung out of the Dr Who omni-rumours so i would urge caution. Of course if it is true what makes anyone think Apple will let us see any of it. Washington Coliseum,Shea,Let It Be,promo films etc. have not been issued yet. If anything is found Apple should restore it and then just give it to the bootleggers/torrents who have been doing their job for them for the best part of 40 years. I'd much rather see an official product but i find it hard to believe that will happen. I wrote this with my official limited edition White album ball point pen. I'm off to find some screen cleaner.
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Post by ashleywood on Nov 14, 2013 12:52:16 GMT
The big problem re The Beatles and alot of other classic sixties groups & artists, of course, is that the songs footage is held by differing concerns...all with vested interests ! the b/w promo film of 'Love Me Do' survives featuring John on harmonica and a surprisingly shorter haired very young Beatles look ! ;'She Loves You' in the collarless suits included in 'Sounds of The Sixties'), Those are both from the BBC "The Mersey Sound" documentary from 1963. Sad but true we are more likely to see a full Beatle reunion tour before CrApple sorts it's "legacy" policy out. I suspect that has less to do with Jeff Jones and more to do with Yoko,Paul,Olivia and Ringo. If one of them vetoes something it's out of the running. Luckily there's probably around 30 to 100 hours of Beatle footage "in circulation" so Apple sorting it out is pretty much irrelevant. It's entirely up to them and "the board" if they want to keep it that way. I just can't see the point in keeping the footage locked away until it can only be looked at in 100 years time by a couple of twatty historians with little or no musical interest.
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Post by ashleywood on Nov 14, 2013 9:29:13 GMT
For the most part i think The Beatles appearances on TV post 1963 were pretty uninteresting with the exception of the missing 1965 TYLS where they mimed Eight Days A Week,Yes It Is and Ticket To Ride. Of most interest as Robert said would be those early shows late 1962 and early to mid 1963 when they sometimes played live or mimed the early singles. Though Apple almost certainly has more than it's prepared to let anyone see (why ?) i don't think there's much chance for any recoveries from this early period unless a massive tape cache from ABC or the BBC or Granada miraculously appears. I've never understood the clamour for the 1966 TOTP appearance...we already have half a dozen examples of the band miming Paperback Writer and Rain. With reference to Kevin Howlett's book, it is well done but as a Beatle obsessive i've looked through it once and don't feel the need to look at it again. I do not understand why Kevin makes no reference to the tapes that have survived. Nearly every one of the Beatles BBC radio sessions has survived in some form but you'd never know that reading his book. For all the mythology,at the end of the day The Beatles were a pop group and it's all about the music. "it's only publishers who think they own it" as a certain Mr Lennon once said. I do not understand what Apple and the other copyright holders are waiting for. Fans of many other 50s and 60s bands are departing this life and many band's popularity is diminishing with the passing of time. It wont be long before there is no market for much of this stuff (beatles and stones aside) and then we'll never get to see it. What's the point of that ?
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 23, 2013 19:07:04 GMT
When did Top Of The Pops begin featuring live vocals ? Are these early shows simply an audio document of a dj intro and the records we all know and love in worse sound quality unlike for example an edition of Ready Steady Goes Live or bbc light's Saturday Club which would be a live performance (in bad sound quality ! ).
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 18, 2013 22:34:02 GMT
And you would know about this, Brian, given your avatar ... excerpts from a 1967 TOTP turned up, including a studio performance of See Emily Play ... barely watchable due to drop out, picture jump etc. indeed the 67 footage, for those who have not seen it rolls very very badly, it was Nick Mason who put me onto that when it was on youtube [in the uk its been disabled i think] he seemed to find it before anyone else so i'm guessing he was tipped off over it. missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/4817?page=1vimeo.com/67773718That's a very good job. Thanks for pointing it out and thanks to Pink Floyd for the Syd/Piper-era video anthology....oh
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 18, 2013 20:06:45 GMT
That's not barely watchable Shelley. It's a recovery to rival all recoveries.I enjoyed it immensely despite the flaws. If you're talking about unwatchable i suggest you look up Yoko Ono "singing" with John Lennon and Chuck Berry on the Mike Douglas Show. Now that is unwatchable.
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 13, 2013 8:50:29 GMT
Thanks for that. Like you said "The Hollies were a class act who set their sights too low." something else that tends to get lost in the mix is Eric Haydock's ability. He was an excellent bass player. Tony and Bobby not going to The Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame was poor as well. Possibly the last chance for the original members to appear together.
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 12, 2013 19:01:47 GMT
I'd be interested to hear your opinion on that. I agree with Nash that the Hollies needed to move on and stop writing songs about school/schoolgirls and the like but then his contributions are so "un-heavy" with one or two notable exceptions. The guy is more sugary than Paul McCartney playing piano in a treacle factory. However given that Evolution,Butterfly and King Midas all failed relatively speaking and then they end up singing crap like Jennifer Eccles and Puff The Magic Dragon in cabaret it's not surprising he left. On the other hand he is as guilty of Jennifer Eccles as Clarkey and i bet he sang a wicked harmony on Puff (man). He certainly did with Crosby steals hash and bong. Much as i really like the Hollies they seem to have decided early on that their target audience was the little sisters of Beatles fans which is a shame. Haydock and Elliott were a brilliant rhythm section, Nash along with Macca was Britain's best topline harmony singer, Allan Clarke had a perfect voice for the band and remains one of the great beat group voices of the era and Tony was pretty useful on the old banjo. I'd rather have the Hollies doing King Midas on TOTP than the Beatles Paperback Writer. That is a real missing music gem.
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 9, 2013 8:09:47 GMT
Again though, as with everything else we talk about on here its all been wiped so we have no way of knowing what Miss World thought of Arnold Layne (actual real life example as researched by me) or who was on the panel the week Howling Wolf got the klaxon! Well Rob, i should imagine that Miss World would then realise who was responsible for stealing her knickers !
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 9, 2013 7:30:05 GMT
I guess after Thursday one has to wonder if there's still a little more magic in Bullwinkle's hat. Steve Jobs always liked to hold one thing back to further make the audiences boggle, and this will surely be a meticulously scripted and planned affair that may get a BAFTA nod in itself. But then what? Should we expect to see the JFK assassination archives released? Well at the moment it's apparently easier to locate missing/destroyed Dr Who episodes then it is for the CIA to publish the George Joannides DRE files which could go some way towards finding out what was going on in the CIA sponsored Anti Castro movement in...oh sorry wrong board. Hey everyone, congratulations on the recovery. Let me know if The Magnificent Ambersons or missing Smile tapes are among the haul ! Enjoy.
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 8, 2013 10:06:54 GMT
Sadly most of the guests weren't musicians of the era they were 50s 60s tv actors,comics etc. occasionally a beatle/hollie etc would guest. i began compiling a list of the panels a couple of years back and stopped because of the rarity of musicians appearances...my notes ended up with n.o.i written for virtually every week - no-one of interest/ no-one important as the relevance to beat groups tv appearances was virtually non-existent.
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 8, 2013 9:16:04 GMT
Thanks William, i knew the April bit but until i get to BBC written archive the specific date will probably remain elusive. I think the record was released march 24 1961. Not one of Johnny's better cuts in my opinion and you're right, Shakin' All Over was also voted a miss - what a bunch of idiots ! Another reason why the lack of preservation of this series doesn't represent a problem in my book.
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Post by ashleywood on Oct 7, 2013 22:04:46 GMT
Sorry to be a downer but Juke Box Jury does not sound interesting to me except for the episodes with all 4 Beatles or the 5 Rolling Stones. Again, great if they showed up but the prospect of half an hour of some showbiz people reviewing the weeks releases is not enticing even if one of the Fabs is present. I think audio exists for the various Beatle appearances and Georges may still exist in the Harrison archives (??). I've not confirmed when it transmitted but there was an episode where a Johnny Kidd record was voted a miss and the band were behind the curtain on set to everyone's embarrassment. Ultimately any recoveries are good except Westlife, Boyzone and a few other unmentionables. They should be sent to the toxic waste plant.
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