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Post by Richard Tipple on Sept 13, 2017 14:37:23 GMT
Hi all, was just reading about Steven's flashback sequence to The Dalek's Masterplan and The Massacre in The Celestial Toymaker, and was wondering a few things (I haven't listened to any of the audio's for those three stories, so forgive me if it seems obvious): 1. Can you actually tell what the footage is/represents (i.e. what are the clips of)? Does the audio match up to another soundtrack, or is it impossible to tell what's meant to be onscreen (due to lack of audio and visuals)? 2. If it's clear what clips they used, what episodes of DMP and The Massacre are they from? Curious to know. I believe the footage was also show on a screen, in frame. Like so: ibb.co/gZAMgv So unlikely to be particularly useful clips even if this episode was found!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Aug 15, 2017 14:12:34 GMT
The problem with such a thing is people might hold out for better value. If for example a fun raised £10,000, and someone came forward with G4 episode 2, then great. But the fund would be at £0. And someone else might hold on to their copy for TP4 because they value it at, say, £50,000.. ultimately it could have the reverse effect where people hoard. And what about the kind souls who have found stuff and given it back for nothing? What if someone found a short clip, what value would that have?
Opens up too much of a can of worms for me, best avoided.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jul 26, 2017 8:12:11 GMT
I'd be talking to DiD about this for years and they emailed me that they'd unearthed half the interview and sent me the link. I told twitter and it went into meltdown! Never had an official release but you can listen to it here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVg85OSgeGk
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 9, 2017 8:56:57 GMT
For me it has to be Airlock.
An unremarkable episode from an unremarkable serial. It wasn't on the top of anyone's wish-list. It isn't an episode shrouded in fan mythology - and yet it's such an enjoyable 25 minutes of television! It's bold, bright and feisty. We have humour, conflict, trepidation. We have beautifully shot flashbacks and monologues.
The production team obviously cared enough to make it the very best it could be and - creatively speaking - they threw the kitchen sink at it. It perfectly incapsulates the magic of 60's Doctor Who. A children's TV programme, made on a showstring, with something in calculably enchanting about it. It's exactly the reason why I love the show.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Mar 21, 2017 14:15:26 GMT
I understand that a BBC Interlude from the sixties survives featuring a Louis Marx Dalek amongst other things. Was this material ever featured on a dvd release many thanks in advance for any replies www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSfNRhu-jUk
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Post by Richard Tipple on Feb 26, 2017 22:25:11 GMT
Hi I understand there was a Radio trailer for an unearthly child was any other story promoted on the radio in the sixties with a now missing trailer. Many thanks in advance for any replies Yes, there was one for the first episode but only the transcript exists. I recreated it using some (very) basic animation, and the voice of John Guilor - who impersonated Hartnell for Day of the Doctor and for the recreation extras on the DVD release of Planet of Giants. Our very own @john W King remembers it vividly and using his memory I recreated it using episode footage, www.youtube.com/watch?v=95W2XCRe6Vo
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Post by Richard Tipple on Feb 26, 2017 21:51:09 GMT
Those three figures are the Blue Peter presenters. Doesn't this 'floor' shot cut directly to the face close up when the light illuminates Hartnell's face and the transition begins? I'm fairly sure there isn't time for a companion montage there.. besides I'm certain this would have been remembered by those that watched it live and certainly there would be paperwork to back it up. Nice idea though! Yeah, that's why it really weirded me out because it was only like a two second gap, but there were definitely people in the frame so I figured it had to have been something like that. It never occurred to me that it might have actually been the presenters in a cross fade. However, if there was a cross-fade, does that mean that me technically have more footage of the regeneration than is on the dvds or reconstructions but that is never shown because it has the presenters on it? Yes, I guess you could say that's true. Some of the DMP footage that only exists thanks to Blue Peter has - I believe - a diagonal iris transition from the footage to the BP presenters. Obviously that's not included in any recons, Oh, I loved your idea so much I mocked up a little 'artists impression' for you!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Feb 26, 2017 21:35:48 GMT
Those three figures are the Blue Peter presenters. Doesn't this 'floor' shot cut directly to the face close up when the light illuminates Hartnell's face and the transition begins? I'm fairly sure there isn't time for a companion montage there.. besides I'm certain this would have been remembered by those that watched it live and certainly there would be paperwork to back it up. Nice idea though!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Feb 7, 2017 9:29:50 GMT
Sadly there are episodes we'll never seen again. I'm accepted that. It's really sad but ultimately you can't wish things back into existence - once they're gone, they're gone.
I thought the recent attempt to bring Cushing back to Star Wars was exceptionally exciting. It cost many, many million of dollars and isn't anywhere near affordable for home use so it isn't something that applies directly to Doctor Who. However, I must admit, I have dreamt of recreating missing episodes, with full sets and actors wearing greenscreen masks and mo-cap, to digitally produce a likeness of Hartnell et al. It's nothing more than a pipe dream at the moment though, far far too expensive and the results aren't convincing enough,
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 31, 2017 16:13:27 GMT
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 9, 2017 19:11:51 GMT
Out of interest, wasn't there some discussion a fair while ago of some colour test footage being shot of part of a Hartnell or Troughton episode in the mid 1960's and broadcast on early BBC2? Like so much it is probably a debunked myth but interesting non the less. I'm certain that was debunked - as nice as it would have been! I think it's rather a shame colour television was developed. Really? I can't say I've heard this before?! Fair enough.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 8, 2017 21:39:43 GMT
I would be interested to hear Mr Tipple's thoughts on this one? Thanks Richard, My opinion is unchanged. For me it's all about choice. If adding colour to classic Doctor Who (animation or otherwise) helps introduce it to the next generation then I'm in favour. The more young eyes we can have enjoying Hartnell and Troughtons superb legacies the better. As long as the original is always available I'm not sure what the problem is. I'd also take issue with the '60's Dr. Who is supposed to be seen in black and white' line of thought. It wasn't an artistic choice, it was a technical and budgetary constraint. Hartnell is on record saying he'd love for Doctor Who to be in colour.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 7, 2017 22:12:28 GMT
Because if they deny it then it is supposedly true, if they delete the thread it is supposedly true, etc. This does very much strike me as being the case as well. Too often I've seen speculation presented as fact or 'proof' which is nothing of the sort. There is a climate of criticism on here which isn't too friendly and I think that's a real shame - we are ultimately all just fans of the same show. I think that's probably a hangover from the omirumour which upset a lot of people. Certainly the onus of proof rests with those making the statements but it would be nice if everyone - on all sides - could go a little easier on each other. I noticed Paul's comment about "The biggest problem being a moderator on here... is the claim of censorship whenever the mods scissors come out." I sympathise with that position, and I'm sure Paul realises my comments earlier on this thread were purely the assertion that removing posts is the sort of action that can start even more rumours. As you say Scott, people will take editing the thread as proof, or leaving it as-is as proof - they'll see what they want to see. So it's a lose-lose situation for the mods who have a tough job - even on a relatively low activity forum such as this. Ultimately, for those of us not in the know: we carefully watch the wording of those we believe are. Enjoy reading the comments of other fans of the show and keep our fingers crossed. EDIT: Just seen Paul had to remove - quite rightly - several posts, including the one I've quoted. Please feel free to remove this as it may seem odd out of context! Apologies.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 2, 2017 22:51:29 GMT
Am I right in thinking that BBC Enterprise held copies on 16mm for foreign sales and these weren't destroyed until 1974? If so could the clips not have come from there? Yes, I edited my post to that effect a few minutes before your reply :-) Apologies! It takes me a while to read and reply
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 2, 2017 22:31:09 GMT
Am I right in thinking that BBC Enterprise held copies on 16mm for foreign sales and these weren't destroyed until 1974? If so could the clips not have come from there?
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