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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 13, 2018 12:22:36 GMT
PoTD was just after the hiatus. As this version contained the opening titles, I would assume that the person has the complete episode. Said person committed a very public gaffe which many of us interpreted (and still interpret) as this group of people have the entire story. I am sending a PM to Paul about how our theory works. I actually have several other leads I have always wanted to follow-up on that I am sending to Paul. What was the public gaffe? If what you say is true, and someone reading this does have an episode of Power, I'd like to say 'THANK YOU' for saving it from destruction. Hopefully one day, when the time is right, they'll share it with the rest of us. That'd be amazing. Until then, please have a digital copy somewhere - imagine if the print was destroyed in a fire etc after surviving 50+ years in a private collection.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 12, 2018 14:16:26 GMT
Based on Chris Wilkinson's chart on page 2 of this thread, I've made a table showing, if one missing episode were recovered, the likelihood of what that episode would be compared to others. See the original comment for more details on why the serials are where they are. View AttachmentThis is rather brilliant. Do you mind if I share on Twitter?
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 12, 2018 12:00:00 GMT
I've owned this footage before (albeit not this exact reel) and sold it on to another collector after a while. It's a rather nice piece - particularly interesting that it's a negative.. only seen positives in the past. A rather nice/interesting item for collectors this, and a fun way to hold a little of DMP in your 16mm collection! Here's a couple of stills from a previous copy of this print that I used to own: imgur.com/a/ucYyZ9p
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Post by Richard Tipple on May 27, 2018 21:08:04 GMT
If anyone does have any links to Arabic/Spanish dubs I'd be very grateful to hear them!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Apr 26, 2018 22:41:20 GMT
Some lovely moments here, I'd like to nominate something that's probably a bit overlooked but I think might look rather nifty.
Zephon's extermination in DMP3 (Devil's Planet). There's this erie silence between Zephon announcing he's leaving and the Dalek order to 'Execute!'. In my head that's directed beautifully with cold dead-eyed creepiness from the Daleks.. would love to see it!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Apr 26, 2018 16:33:06 GMT
Did I say I didn't like it? Things you've said you dislike: - storylines
- dialogue
- settings
- huge sudden twists in direction
- lack of consistency
- the stock villains
Sounds like you love it! Or could I say that, if I had never watched it? No. It's entirely reasonable to watch a few episodes of something and decide it's not for you. Watching every episode in existence of one of the worlds longest running TV shows just to say you don't like it strikes me as.. and I'm being polite here - 'odd'. All I want is a touch of realism about the whole thing - whether it's in which era is "better", or how many episodes are supposedly recovered and will 'soon' be announced. You've basically just admitted my whole point anyway. You said, and this is a direct quote, "this whole suggestion that Doctor Who is somehow the best thing ever, or even a high quality product, seems totally ludicrous to me." I don't think I've ever encountered anyone who see Doctor Who this way. Most are aware of the constraints the show was made under but love the show anyway, mostly - but not exclusively - for reasons of nostalgia.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Apr 26, 2018 13:41:34 GMT
Perhaps it's because I only watched them as an adult, but this whole suggestion that Doctor Who is somehow the best thing ever, or even a high quality product, seems totally ludicrous to me. I have completed a few months ago the mammoth task of watching every existing episode and it's taken me years. That's because I desperately needed a break every so often. My main objection is the writing of storylines and often the dialogue too. Settings are often obviously copied from a specific genre in a moment of "hey let's do a murder mystery-y story". There are huge sudden twists in direction and lack of consistency. No doubt, as some of you have done above, its weaknesses can be construed as strengths and clever send-ups. I look on that simply as proof of your love and dedication. Strangely enough I found the final years not too bad, in part because it finally looked halfway decent. The actors, I don't mind. But the stock villains every time! Is there any villain who does not say "excellent" at least once in every episode? I don't care if I never see another cyberman in my entire life! Now, Out of the Unknown, that's the stuff with plots written to make you think - well, I'm not sure what I think of its final series, but still. It's the UK Twilight Zone. In contrast, the DW stories - a time traveller for crying out loud (not that anyone could hear me in space) - are slavishly chronological and continuous (with practically no exception). (Original) Star Trek - that at least had a genuine vision of the future behind it. So yeah, I'd trade ALL of Tomb of the Cyberman for any missing OOTU episode. Hahaha, better be nice to me, or I swear I'll do it!Note. Don't be offended. I have the same opinion on James Bond. It's all one big trope-fest. That doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed; only I prefer to call a sonic spade a sonic spade. But what surprises me is that one could seriously consider one era better or worse than the other. As if the Pertwee stories were any better than the McCoy ones - they all look equally silly and contrived to me! (Most unreal moment for me was Black Orchid, when Davison suggests he couldn't have committed a murder because he barely knew the victim and so he couldn't possibly have a motive. Hahaha, since when did that ever matter? ) Opinions. You prefer OOTU, I prefer Doctor Who. It's subjective and ultimately trivial. What is truly bizarre is that you spent years of your life watching something you don't like, presumably so you could come to a forum like this - full of people who do like it - and tell us it's rubbish. Now what's more strange: Rewatching a TV programme you love, or spending years of your life rewatching a TV programme you dislike, just to make a point? Your original premise that we all think "Doctor Who is somehow the best thing ever, or even a high quality product" is also absurd. It's dodgy scripts, wobbly sets, and bad acting have been well discussed by fan and causal viewer alike. For the vast majority of us it's nostalgia. Like hearing a song that reminds you of your university days, or a smell of food that takes you down memory lane. A city you used to live in or the house you grew up in. Nostalgia makes you feel good because it's your connection to pleasant memories. That's what Doctor Who is to many on here. Nobody is claiming it to be Citizen Kane or a work of art akin to a Renaissance masterpiece, but we enjoy it - and where's the harm in that?
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Post by Richard Tipple on Apr 14, 2018 16:52:57 GMT
What's the story about Marco Polo from 1997? I don't think I've heard that one. I believe it was '96? And refers to the Australian censor clips being destroyed.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Apr 5, 2018 15:34:52 GMT
Marco Polo, The Evil of the Daleks , Masterplan.
Sorry Power.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Feb 26, 2018 22:32:02 GMT
Wonderful print and got a good price too. Clearly not a dupe. Not that a dupe is a bad thing - any Doctor Who on 16mm is extremely valuable! While sitting down with the DVD is fantastic, nothing beats the experience of watching a thrilling episode on 16mm film. If you ever get a chance I highly recommend it.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Dec 14, 2017 11:51:24 GMT
OK, so we don't really like the idea of remakes, what about new filmed stories with older Doctors? I'm thinking here maybe the recast first Doctor finally gets back to meet a much older Susan who has long outlived her husband David Campbell and now must face regeneration herself. I would hate that, just as I hate the fact that they are recasting the first Doctor at Christmas, that Big Finish are doing it, and that it was done in 1983. I'm sorry, but I just see it as disrespectful to the original actors. Those three men are NOT replaceable. Hate is a very strong emotion. I'm sorry you're wrestling with it. I'm a huge Hartnell-era fan and I LOVE the fact the First Doctor is coming back. In no way can Bradley replace Hartnell in the role, but for me it's a lovely way to pay homage to a wonderful era of the shows past. An era that's lost in time, but not forgotten. I actually think Hartnell would have been rather pleased to think his portrayal was so strong that they're reprising his character for a Christmas special over fifty years since he left the role. But of course you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I'll be watching it with a huge smile on my face, loving the fact that I get to see my favourite show on Christmas day! And my favourite Doctor again! What a treat. As for the restaging of missing episodes - it's not really worth worrying about. The costs involved would be so astronomical I highly doubt it'll ever be any more than a fantasy. I film/edit and produce budgets for production work as part of my day job - restaging would easily eclipse the cost of animation. I can't fathom how they'd manage it without a huge amount of favours and people working for free! A shame because personally, if it was shot in the same style, with the same pacing, I'd be all for it. I'm also a completest so having a DVD of a restaged DMP or Celestial Toymaker would be rather wonderful.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Nov 22, 2017 21:28:24 GMT
Now I think we can all agree there is probably nothing in Zimbabwe for us Doctor Who fans. The story that started this thread was, I believe, a flippant comment on Gallifrey Base taken to the press.. We know Rhodesia (Now Zimbabwe) bought the standard package of stories from GROUPs A, B and C of the William Hartnell era. From a missing episode perspective this will have included Marco Polo, and the two missing instalments of The Reign of Terror. Now it looks as though Zimbabwe sent its prints by air to Zambia, but I can't find a date for this. It's also hinted that Zimbabwe may have continued to screen Doctor Who after December '66. So it's probably a lost cause, but I do wonder if regime change in Zimbabwe might free up their archive to being catalogued? There was no Zimbabwe before 1980, in 1966 it would have been Rhodesia . The Rhodesian Government was chased out of the now Zimbabwe and with the new order wanting to escape it's colonial roots cans marked 'The British Broadcasting Co' were probably like a red rag to a bull and pretty unlikely they would have survived ..but you never know. In my post I clearly stated "We know Rhodesia (Now Zimbabwe).."
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Post by Richard Tipple on Nov 21, 2017 8:37:55 GMT
Now I think we can all agree there is probably nothing in Zimbabwe for us Doctor Who fans. The story that started this thread was, I believe, a flippant comment on Gallifrey Base taken to the press..
We know Rhodesia (Now Zimbabwe) bought the standard package of stories from GROUPs A, B and C of the William Hartnell era. From a missing episode perspective this will have included Marco Polo, and the two missing instalments of The Reign of Terror. Now it looks as though Zimbabwe sent its prints by air to Zambia, but I can't find a date for this. It's also hinted that Zimbabwe may have continued to screen Doctor Who after December '66.
So it's probably a lost cause, but I do wonder if regime change in Zimbabwe might free up their archive to being catalogued?
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Post by Richard Tipple on Oct 19, 2017 10:30:30 GMT
Very True one episode of The Tenth Planet had its sound replaced by an audio recording It was episode 2.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Sept 28, 2017 11:54:30 GMT
Have you got the "Here In The West" (ABC Perth) Dalek episode Martin? I have. Not sure if it's got clips in it, it's been that long since I've seen it. I would love to see that!
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