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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 21, 2014 18:47:01 GMT
The most sought after story getting a come down with no animation ! Well i would of waited another 4 months to get it done properly ! You and me both Shelly! This is a very strange one indeed ! The holy grail to some getting a 3rd rate outing ? Bizarre !
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Post by Greg H on Jan 21, 2014 18:52:50 GMT
Seems absolutely staggering to me that The Web Of Fear (a dream wish list story for most a year ago) is recovered almost in full and yet some people are now getting picky about how they want it released! So long as it's released, sod how the missing episode is presented - as long as the other five are there in optimum restored / VidFired form, I'll settle for a basic stills / soundtrack job to bridge the gap. We've got it - which is all that's important. Agreed. Web was surely one of the biggies of missing television, not just who. It is up there with A for Andromeda, Quatermass experiment etc for being iconic lost British television of the first order (That people actually remember). I would buy it on Betamax if it came to it I did read Richard's post though and totally understand his point.
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Post by grantgoodman on Jan 21, 2014 19:28:22 GMT
if it wasn`t to be animated then why the delay? surely they could have released it before now and also didn`t it knock back other releases! I don't think it was pushed back so much as Enemy of the World was made available sooner as an exclusive BBC shop release. If it was initially released through stores and amazon the earliest release would have been January.
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Post by grantgoodman on Jan 21, 2014 19:31:01 GMT
But it's self-defeating. If lots of people thought "I'll wait for the SE", hardly anyone would buy the initial release, the BBC would perceive there to be no demand for the story, and your SE would never happen. So I wouldn't be at all confident of a rerelease, given that scenario. I would be more confident if there were a few more Baker and other Doctors had special editions on the docket. But so far nothing. I say a special edition is only likely is if the third episode is recovered. I have a hunch the animation experiment hasn't been profitable.
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Post by Jeff Haynes on Jan 21, 2014 20:15:11 GMT
Seems absolutely staggering to me that The Web Of Fear (a dream wish list story for most a year ago) is recovered almost in full and yet some people are now getting picky about how they want it released! So long as it's released, sod how the missing episode is presented - as long as the other five are there in optimum restored / VidFired form, I'll settle for a basic stills / soundtrack job to bridge the gap. We've got it - which is all that's important. Agreed. Web was surely one of the biggies of missing television, not just who. It is up there with A for Andromeda, Quatermass experiment etc for being iconic lost British television of the first order (That people actually remember). I would buy it on Betamax if it came to it I did read Richard's post though and totally understand his point. It's great that it's back. But it should be animated. They've had them back since April(?). Do you really belive that if episode 3 isn't found that the BBC won't release it in the future animated?
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Post by Greg H on Jan 21, 2014 20:53:41 GMT
Yes, I expect (in my reckonings) that the BBC will release it with an animated version of episode 3 in the future; I should also be remarkably surprised if episode 3 ever surfaces. I would suspect that is our lot for web of fear. Just a hunch. We have to remember that what is important to us as individuals is not automatically going to be top of the list of priorities for the BBC. Personally I am not at all bothered about getting an animation, the 5 episodes and recon are totally sufficient for me. I know some people really enjoy the animations and that is cool with me but I always find them a little difficult to get through. I would be infinitely more interested in a set of documentaries as an extra; maybe one on the production, one on the recovery and one on the fan reception. That would get me buying it a second time faster than an animation Always worth remembering that these extras take time to make as well!
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Post by alf hughes on Jan 21, 2014 21:27:18 GMT
as the 7th doctor says "time will tell, it always does "
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Post by George D on Jan 22, 2014 3:35:13 GMT
As much as Dan hall was criticised, he did so some amazing recovery with the restoration team. Such as chroma dot coloring, vid firing, Animation, and other extras.
Sadly, his era is over. We have moon base and perhaps underwater menace as the last of that legacy. The new dvd regime appears to be going a different direction with vanilla releases.
I don't know if they delayed it hoping that it would be recovered or Simply to spread them out. That being said, this does appear to be the best we are going to get of this classic in dvd. If you feel you want this, for your collection or you want to show support for future recovery efforts, then I would purchase it. If it doesn't do well, it could have a negative impact on recoveries, dr who dvd releases as well as become a scarce disk thatwill cost one a lot more later.
I am very optimistic that moonbase will do well, in spite of being in lost in time, because of the great animation which completes the story. Hope fully that sends the message that animations of the missing episodes can be profitable.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 22, 2014 7:35:48 GMT
For me,Moonbase is a very exciting release and with UM hopefully being released animated as well,fitting ends to a great DVD range.If more episodes/stories are found and released like EOTW and WOF (without animation and without extras),then these won't have the same in-depth,encyclopedic stature that the rest of the range had and that makes them a little odd in my opinion.So,to be on par with the rest of the range,they must have SEs produced at some point in the future.But if Worldwide feel that vanilla releaes are the new direction,then it's a let down and doesn't really justify all the SEs released in the recent past as well.But,time will tell which way the range will go in the future.
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Post by stephenwit1 on Jan 22, 2014 16:50:28 GMT
I'm still wondering what PLANET 55 STUDIO NEW DOCTOR WHO PROJECT for 2014 is. Time will tell. I'm guessing it will THE CRUSADE.
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 22, 2014 17:36:15 GMT
For me,Moonbase is a very exciting release and with UM hopefully being released animated as well,fitting ends to a great DVD range.If more episodes/stories are found and released like EOTW and WOF (without animation and without extras),then these won't have the same in-depth,encyclopedic stature that the rest of the range had and that makes them a little odd in my opinion.So,to be on par with the rest of the range,they must have SEs produced at some point in the future.But if Worldwide feel that vanilla releaes are the new direction,then it's a let down and doesn't really justify all the SEs released in the recent past as well.But,time will tell which way the range will go in the future. I can see your point. For there to be animations of The Invasion, The Reign of Terror, The Ice Warriors, The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase, and The Underwater Menace, it seems odd that they don't have an animation for episode 3 of The Web of Fear or the missing episodes from The Crusade. I can see why some people would feel disappointed in this change of direction and might divert their funds towards other things.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Jan 22, 2014 18:23:50 GMT
For me,Moonbase is a very exciting release and with UM hopefully being released animated as well,fitting ends to a great DVD range.If more episodes/stories are found and released like EOTW and WOF (without animation and without extras),then these won't have the same in-depth,encyclopedic stature that the rest of the range had and that makes them a little odd in my opinion.So,to be on par with the rest of the range,they must have SEs produced at some point in the future.But if Worldwide feel that vanilla releaes are the new direction,then it's a let down and doesn't really justify all the SEs released in the recent past as well.But,time will tell which way the range will go in the future. I can see your point. For there to be animations of The Invasion, The Reign of Terror, The Ice Warriors, The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase, and The Underwater Menace, it seems odd that they don't have an animation for episode 3 of The Web of Fear or the missing episodes from The Crusade. I can see why some people would feel disappointed in this change of direction and might divert their funds towards other things. Hmm, UM has never been stated as Animated - I heard a possible update to LOST IN TIME set if any other orphans show up. As for WoF - no ANIMATION - same recon on ITunes. As for rumours - WEB3 supposed was either never in Jos, or was lost/damaged in the transport back - but it is not available NOW for the DVD if it shows up in the future - anyone's guess.
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Post by scotttelfer on Jan 22, 2014 19:04:36 GMT
I can see your point. For there to be animations of The Invasion, The Reign of Terror, The Ice Warriors, The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase, and The Underwater Menace, it seems odd that they don't have an animation for episode 3 of The Web of Fear or the missing episodes from The Crusade. I can see why some people would feel disappointed in this change of direction and might divert their funds towards other things. Hmm, UM has never been stated as Animated - I heard a possible update to LOST IN TIME set if any other orphans show up. As for WoF - no ANIMATION - same recon on ITunes. As for rumours - WEB3 supposed was either never in Jos, or was lost/damaged in the transport back - but it is not available NOW for the DVD if it shows up in the future - anyone's guess.
The Underwater Menace has never had animation officially confirmed, but several people have confirmed it will be unofficially (including the animation company that prepares them) so it's unlikely that it won't be animated if everyone connected to the release other than the BBC Worldwide's press people are saying it will.
Explanations exist as to why The Crusade won't be animated (political correctness) and there are logical reasons as to why The Web of Fear wouldn't be animated (the regular DVD team have nothing to do with it, so the people in charge of this release probably aren't that bothered about animation).
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 22, 2014 20:02:47 GMT
I can see your point. For there to be animations of The Invasion, The Reign of Terror, The Ice Warriors, The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase, and The Underwater Menace, it seems odd that they don't have an animation for episode 3 of The Web of Fear or the missing episodes from The Crusade. I can see why some people would feel disappointed in this change of direction and might divert their funds towards other things. Hmm, UM has never been stated as Animated - I heard a possible update to LOST IN TIME set if any other orphans show up. As for WoF - no ANIMATION - same recon on ITunes. As for rumours - WEB3 supposed was either never in Jos, or was lost/damaged in the transport back - but it is not available NOW for the DVD if it shows up in the future - anyone's guess. At the website for Planet 55 Studios, it shows that Stephanie Youlten is producing their material for The Underwater Menace. It would look really strange for anybody to hire a company to produce something for The Underwater Menace and then not use it. That would be a big waste of money.
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Post by stephenwit1 on Jan 23, 2014 13:56:30 GMT
Hmm, UM has never been stated as Animated - I heard a possible update to LOST IN TIME set if any other orphans show up. As for WoF - no ANIMATION - same recon on ITunes. As for rumours - WEB3 supposed was either never in Jos, or was lost/damaged in the transport back - but it is not available NOW for the DVD if it shows up in the future - anyone's guess. At the website for Planet 55 Studios, it shows that Stephanie Youlten is producing their material for The Underwater Menace. It would look really strange for anybody to hire a company to produce something for The Underwater Menace and then not use it. That would be a big waste of money. I agree there.
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