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Post by Greg H on Jan 20, 2014 22:21:05 GMT
Hi Richard! I would be fairly surprised if the BBC would have had sufficient time to arrange for an animation or even a large amount of extras for this release, so my money is going on the vanilla telesnaps recon that we have already seen. I will go out on a limb with my crystal ball and predict that in a couple of years we will get a special edition with an animation and DVD full of extras. I for one can't be sad about ANYTHING to do with the release on DVD of the web of fear Hi Greg, Yeah, I know and tbh I agree. I still keep thinking THE WEB OF FEAR... ITS BACK!!!! but I was still hoping that the delay would be for animation. A minor quibble I know but it would have been nice. I just don't like recons, I'm afraid, I would rather have had a recorded link by Frazer or Debbie, but that's just me. A recorded link would actually be pretty cool! I would completely go for that. The 'proper' animations don't really do that much for me, so I am not too fussed about it being animated. The recon as it is works for me, but then I have been watching the loose canon stuff for ages now. A link with Frazer and Deborah perhaps even in character would actually be an excellent idea.
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 21, 2014 6:59:29 GMT
I know I keep mentioning it but for me the bridging links in the VHS Invasion recorded by Nic Courtney were a good example of a cheap way to do it and worked really well.
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Post by Robert Lia on Jan 21, 2014 7:17:10 GMT
They were cheap but JNT could have put a little more time an effort into them. They were way to short. Perhaps a slightly longer narrative would have been helpful but what we got was just not enough. I remember how disappointed I was with them at the time they were relapsed.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 21, 2014 13:28:02 GMT
This is why the BBC irritates me. Does anyone out there believe that a story missing one episode should be released with a recon? Plus they can NEVER give a straight answer to anything, even the BBC Shop. If the disc has a recon, is the answer at the beginning of the thread correct? A recon with camera movement is NOT animation. You can also bet that if this disc comes out with a recon that a disc with animation is in the future. Sorry, I’m not going to buy it twice, I’ll wait. I don't think you can bet anything of the sort. How long will you wait, just out of interest? A year? Two years? Five..?
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Post by johnforbes on Jan 21, 2014 14:07:16 GMT
I'd agree with Jeff, if the BBC can animate 2 parts of a 4, 6, 8 parter, I wouldn't buy a dvd with a 1 ep camera zoom effort to "reconstruct" a missing ep. If it's not animated, it's not worth buying. I'f it is just the camera zoom thing, I'd be pretty confident a SE would be released at some point with the animated ep, or if it indeed turns up, the whole thing, even if part 3 is ropier or w/e.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 21, 2014 14:13:36 GMT
But it's self-defeating. If lots of people thought "I'll wait for the SE", hardly anyone would buy the initial release, the BBC would perceive there to be no demand for the story, and your SE would never happen.
So I wouldn't be at all confident of a rerelease, given that scenario.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 21, 2014 14:20:42 GMT
But it's self-defeating. If lots of people thought "I'll wait for the SE", hardly anyone would buy the initial release, the BBC would perceive there to be no demand for the story, and your SE would never happen. So I wouldn't be at all confident of a rerelease, given that scenario. If you have it downloaded to dvd whats the incentive to buy ? fancy cover ?
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Post by Greg H on Jan 21, 2014 14:53:00 GMT
The DVD release will have a larger file size than the downloads and so more picture information can be included. Modern video codecs use a variety of tricks to reduce file size; if you try and watch these on a larger screen you start to notice the tiny artefacts. That and it has been vidfired so it will look smoother and more fluid, not that I mind the look of 16mm of course.
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Post by simonashby on Jan 21, 2014 15:00:56 GMT
But it's self-defeating. If lots of people thought "I'll wait for the SE", hardly anyone would buy the initial release, the BBC would perceive there to be no demand for the story, and your SE would never happen. So I wouldn't be at all confident of a rerelease, given that scenario. If you have it downloaded to dvd whats the incentive to buy ? fancy cover ? As evidenced by EOTW, the picture will be sharper.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 21, 2014 15:41:56 GMT
But it's self-defeating. If lots of people thought "I'll wait for the SE", hardly anyone would buy the initial release, the BBC would perceive there to be no demand for the story, and your SE would never happen. So I wouldn't be at all confident of a rerelease, given that scenario. If you have it downloaded to dvd whats the incentive to buy ? fancy cover ? Higher bitrate, therefore more picture detail. Interlaced motion Subtitles (not particularly relevant for me personally, but for some) As we're making a list, then yes, fancy cover, but a minor point. Frankly, for me, the first two are easily enough on their own.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 16:01:21 GMT
Seems absolutely staggering to me that The Web Of Fear (a dream wish list story for most a year ago) is recovered almost in full and yet some people are now getting picky about how they want it released! So long as it's released, sod how the missing episode is presented - as long as the other five are there in optimum restored / VidFired form, I'll settle for a basic stills / soundtrack job to bridge the gap. We've got it - which is all that's important.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 21, 2014 16:04:28 GMT
Seems absolutely staggering to me that The Web Of Fear (a dream wish list story for most a year ago) is recovered almost in full and yet some people are now getting picky about how they want it released! So long as it's released, sod how the missing episode is presented - as long as the other five are there in optimum restored / VidFired form, I'll settle for a basic stills / soundtrack job to bridge the gap. We've got it - which is all that's important. Agree. Was just pointing out that there will be tight wads if you like who will hold back ! Cant wait, cover could of been a bit better. Only gripe from me
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 21, 2014 18:16:49 GMT
Seems absolutely staggering to me that The Web Of Fear (a dream wish list story for most a year ago) is recovered almost in full and yet some people are now getting picky about how they want it released! So long as it's released, sod how the missing episode is presented - as long as the other five are there in optimum restored / VidFired form, I'll settle for a basic stills / soundtrack job to bridge the gap. We've got it - which is all that's important. Hang on a mo Laurence, my post was about not liking recons from photos, it is a legitimate point of view and has not made any difference to me getting a preorder in for the Web of Fear, my favourite Who serial as soon as it was available. I would have preferred a recorded link with a talking head or animation, whatever the release and I think it is a backwards step for a recon of this sort to be used in a commercial release.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 21, 2014 18:32:32 GMT
Seems absolutely staggering to me that The Web Of Fear (a dream wish list story for most a year ago) is recovered almost in full and yet some people are now getting picky about how they want it released! So long as it's released, sod how the missing episode is presented - as long as the other five are there in optimum restored / VidFired form, I'll settle for a basic stills / soundtrack job to bridge the gap. We've got it - which is all that's important. Hang on a mo Laurence, my post was about not liking recons from photos, it is a legitimate point of view and has not made any difference to me getting a preorder in for the Web of Fear, my favourite Who serial as soon as it was available. I would have preferred a recorded link with a talking head or animation, whatever the release and I think it is a backwards step for a recon of this sort to be used in a commercial release. The most sought after story getting a come down with no animation ! Well i would of waited another 4 months to get it done properly !
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 21, 2014 18:38:53 GMT
Hang on a mo Laurence, my post was about not liking recons from photos, it is a legitimate point of view and has not made any difference to me getting a preorder in for the Web of Fear, my favourite Who serial as soon as it was available. I would have preferred a recorded link with a talking head or animation, whatever the release and I think it is a backwards step for a recon of this sort to be used in a commercial release. The most sought after story getting a come down with no animation ! Well i would of waited another 4 months to get it done properly ! You and me both Shelly!
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