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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 10:35:04 GMT
Unless we helped in a non military way ! I'm uncertain how b&w Dr Who could help the US in Vietnam.... Although Victoria and Zoe would help my morale We just dont know why at the moment. We did help the yanks many times in a non military way. Perhaps the higher ranks liked the show lol. Or were we helping in a off the record way
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Post by John Wall on Jan 17, 2014 10:42:42 GMT
Send us Victoria and Zoe I'll buy that as an explanation
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Post by johnforbes on Jan 17, 2014 10:49:40 GMT
Do we know if Gibraltar screened Ambassadors of death in colour? (as the Taiwan finds are B&w ) and on 16mm not tape....? Vietnam may not feature into the possibilities at all , they were found in Taiwan and theres a lot of ways they could have ended up in the American Armed forces during or after the era of the Vietnam war.... although not involved in Vietnam Britain had bases in nearby areas....( RAF Tengah in Singapore ) for example and the Royal Navy had onboard TV (and apparently showed some BBC stuff according to ex RN sailors ive met over the years....) so the were conducting exercises with both the NZ and Australian forces during the conflict.... fun to speculate on all the possibillities untill we can get some hopefully definate info on the source of the prints Fingers crossed ! According to the Gibraltan and Spanish records, none of the Pertwee's were screened in colour. They DID have the capacity to screen in colour and indeed were doing so from 1969, however it is more than likely that this was from film only. TV listings indicate that every Dr Who episode was in b&w, as there was never a "c" by the side of the listing to indicate a colour transmission, which is how they differentiated between b/w and colour in the tv listings there. Gibraltar will therefore have recieved b&w prints from TIE. Therefore the credibility of Gibraltar as the likely source of the Taiwan prints is still batting.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 10:50:14 GMT
Send us Victoria and Zoe I'll buy that as an explanation OH MATRON ! Bet thats it
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Post by John Wall on Jan 17, 2014 11:04:09 GMT
just to clarify Keith the owner of that Taiwan prints has posted on Ians Levines Facebook "I was a DR Who fan when I watched Tom Baker & Peter Davidson. When Colin Baker took over I lost interest. It was not until Sylvester McCoy took over the roll that I started watching again." This is getting complicated How many fans who might be 16mm collectors know that some Hartnell and Troughton is missing ? The missing TV search isn't as widely known as it might be
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Post by johnforbes on Jan 17, 2014 11:13:32 GMT
just to clarify Keith the owner of that Taiwan prints has posted on Ians Levines Facebook "I was a DR Who fan when I watched Tom Baker & Peter Davidson. When Colin Baker took over I lost interest. It was not until Sylvester McCoy took over the roll that I started watching again." This is getting complicated How many fans who might be 16mm collectors know that some Hartnell and Troughton is missing ? The missing TV search isn't as widely known as it might be Short of slapping a "do you have any 16mm film prints" advert across the front page of every newspaper, the mising TV search isn't widely known about in England never mind Taiwan lol.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 17, 2014 11:27:26 GMT
Newspapers are in decline
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Post by John Green on Jan 17, 2014 11:41:29 GMT
This is getting complicated How many fans who might be 16mm collectors know that some Hartnell and Troughton is missing ? The missing TV search isn't as widely known as it might be Short of slapping a "do you have any 16mm film prints" advert across the front page of every newspaper, the mising TV search isn't widely known about in England never mind Taiwan lol. Remember the classic 'Who' episodes which were issued on DVD with newspapers a few years ago? If they didn't have a note on the back about missing episodes,it was a missed opportunity.
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Post by johnforbes on Jan 17, 2014 11:44:29 GMT
Newspapers are in decline Most, if not all of, the nationals, have web versions though. How about, if we all get together and tell the police there are some missing episodes. They could get the whole force out and do a fingertip by fingertip search of the entire country
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Post by John Green on Jan 17, 2014 11:50:25 GMT
Newspapers are in decline Most, if not all of, the nationals, have web versions though. How about, if we all get together and tell the police there are some missing episodes. They could get the whole force out and do a fingertip by fingertip search of the entire country Tsk.And have some poor bloke involved in a reconstruction of episode-skipping get duffed-up?
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Post by Neil Lambess on Jan 17, 2014 12:11:03 GMT
Do we know if Gibraltar screened Ambassadors of death in colour? (as the Taiwan finds are B&w ) and on 16mm not tape....? Vietnam may not feature into the possibilities at all , they were found in Taiwan and theres a lot of ways they could have ended up in the American Armed forces during or after the era of the Vietnam war.... although not involved in Vietnam Britain had bases in nearby areas....( RAF Tengah in Singapore ) for example and the Royal Navy had onboard TV (and apparently showed some BBC stuff according to ex RN sailors ive met over the years....) so the were conducting exercises with both the NZ and Australian forces during the conflict.... fun to speculate on all the possibillities untill we can get some hopefully definate info on the source of the prints Fingers crossed ! According to the Gibraltan and Spanish records, none of the Pertwee's were screened in colour. They DID have the capacity to screen in colour and indeed were doing so from 1969, however it is more than likely that this was from film only. TV listings indicate that every Dr Who episode was in b&w, as there was never a "c" by the side of the listing to indicate a colour transmission, which is how they differentiated between b/w and colour in the tv listings there. Gibraltar will therefore have recieved b&w prints from TIE. Therefore the credibility of Gibraltar as the likely source of the Taiwan prints is still batting. interestingly, as readers of WIPED are aware , theres an obvious and somewhat "unorthodox " military connection there with TIE .......the section of my brain marked "RAMPANT SPECULATION " (ive been trying to have it removed surgically.....Honest !) suggests that another "possible" way they could get to Taiwan could be if Gibraltar returned its prints to TIE , and then TIE sent them on to the AFTVS in Taiwan....... a sale we dont know about ? .(or possibly for some "Unorthodox" military reason ? ) co-incidently as i pointed out in the link a few posts back theres evidence that SAS "instructors" from the UK got medals for their service in Vietnam during the War and they were also active in the Far East ,(post the Borneo and Malayan crisis ).......so perhaps Mr Sterling was using TIE to send stuff to troops alongside (or even inside ! ) Film Shipments to the Far East in a similar way to How Mr Molesworth suggests TIE operated in Africa...... anyway ! must dash ! Nursie has just told me theyre ready for my lobotomy !
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Post by Neil Lambess on Jan 17, 2014 12:33:31 GMT
just to clarify Keith the owner of that Taiwan prints has posted on Ians Levines Facebook "I was a DR Who fan when I watched Tom Baker & Peter Davidson. When Colin Baker took over I lost interest. It was not until Sylvester McCoy took over the roll that I started watching again." This is getting complicated How many fans who might be 16mm collectors know that some Hartnell and Troughton is missing ? The missing TV search isn't as widely known as it might be i guess the sad reality is its all down to degrees of fandom......not every Doctor Who fan , or fan of any show really, reads the magazines, books , and forums about it, even people who we think should have a awareness about missing shows often dont , about two years ago i was helping run an event in my city with a major film archive here , and " in over the table chat" about missing films , i did mention my involment in the lions recovery , and the response was.... "oh i remember reading about that, i couldnt believe that they had lost an episode of Doctor Who (singular ) " which coming from a professional archivist was disheartening ive always thought every BBC DVD of any show with missing episodes "should " have had a little trailer saying...... "many episodes of this show are missing from the archives..... if you ever find an old film reel etc.....etc......email us at....." fingers crossed !
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Richard Develyn
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Living in hope that more missing episodes will come back to us.
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Post by Richard Develyn on Jan 17, 2014 13:18:27 GMT
Am I right in saying that when Enemy and Web returned "the powers that be" weren't sure how much interest there'd be in them?
Richard
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Post by Alex Wilson on Jan 17, 2014 13:55:13 GMT
Short of slapping a "do you have any 16mm film prints" advert across the front page of every newspaper, the mising TV search isn't widely known about in England never mind Taiwan lol. Remember the classic 'Who' episodes which were issued on DVD with newspapers a few years ago? If they didn't have a note on the back about missing episodes,it was a missed opportunity. I don't know if it's what you mean, but the Sun released individual episodes of most of the Doctors back in 2005. From what I remember they didn't generally mention the missing episodes, but Day of Armageddon and The Faceless Ones Part 1 had an advert for Lost in Time, which I believe mentioned missing episodes. It was also included as part of the logos before the episode on the DVD itself.
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Post by scotttelfer on Jan 17, 2014 15:14:05 GMT
Am I right in saying that when Enemy and Web returned "the powers that be" weren't sure how much interest there'd be in them? Richard
Nobody knows, we were never given the full story. Apparently we will be given it at some point, but not yet as there are still on-going concerns regarding some of the information. We might not even get the full story until Phillip Morris has completely finished the search.
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