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Post by Richard Tipple on Mar 6, 2012 21:02:01 GMT
Fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing!
I said cans but I did mean film prints. I didn't actually know there were a few old WHO cans knocking around, other than the Marco Polo one. Obviously it stands to reason that there should be but I hadn't given it the thought.
Dupe or not I'd love to own some WHO on 16mm. I bet it costs a pretty penny though. If the BBC released episodes on film I'd be queuing up!! A stack of film cans is so much more mysterious than a DVD shelf!
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Post by George D on Mar 7, 2012 4:48:07 GMT
Too bad no one thought of duping the prints in the 1960s or 70s. As a child I did collect 8mm but it was very expensive when buying new prints. When I saw the Big Reel, I considered collecting 16mm, however where could I put them??? The price was affordable but I am already paying enough to store my 40 years of collecting .. Cant afford to store much more with the current real estate rates As a side note, if we wanna include a list of existing dupes, i guess we can include the web of fear guy who has 2 dupes.
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Post by Pete Morris on Mar 8, 2012 5:40:41 GMT
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 8, 2012 7:31:10 GMT
Andrew (post #26) beat you to it, but thank you!
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Mar 9, 2012 2:57:18 GMT
Do we know of the already held eps that are "lost" that are actually known of that are very deteriorated?
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Post by dennywilson on Mar 9, 2012 3:51:53 GMT
Do we know of the already held eps that are "lost" that are actually known of that are very deteriorated? You mean duplicated prints of episode already held? It takes A LOT for a film print to become "Very Deteriorated". As I recall, there's never been any report of any recovered episode, "Lost" or "Duplicated Print" that had any problems.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Mar 9, 2012 4:35:12 GMT
Do we know of the already held eps that are "lost" that are actually known of that are very deteriorated? You mean duplicated prints of episode already held? It takes A LOT for a film print to become "Very Deteriorated". As I recall, there's never been any report of any recovered episode, "Lost" or "Duplicated Print" that had any problems. I mean are there any deteriorated episodes held that there are no other copies of.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Mar 9, 2012 13:26:31 GMT
The Time Meddler prints are, I understand, in pretty poor condition, if that's the kind of thing you're after. It's why they were not vid-fired for the DVD. Thanks for the information, I knew one of eps was edited too cutting out the scene of the Vikings being killed.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Mar 9, 2012 15:23:12 GMT
The Time Meddler prints are, I understand, in pretty poor condition, if that's the kind of thing you're after. It's why they were not vid-fired for the DVD. eh? That's not true... The prints are physically fine, they're just not the worlds greatest telerecordings.... The worst condition 16mm T/R that I'm aware of is "The Lion" which has some pretty bad emulsion scratching. Apart from that, there are a few prints like "Faceless Ones (3)" which has splicy sections, and of course the missing 27 seconds at the end of Galaxy 4. But I haven't heard of any issue at all in terms of deterioration.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Mar 9, 2012 16:30:54 GMT
Not sure what they meant by that ....
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 10, 2012 1:09:26 GMT
eh? That's not true... The prints are physically fine, they're just not the worlds greatest telerecordings.... Ah, I must have misunderstood what was meant by the following comment on the Restoration Team site. Means they're positive prints, not original negatives.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 10, 2012 1:10:13 GMT
The worst condition 16mm T/R that I'm aware of is "The Lion" which has some pretty bad emulsion scratching. Not to mention being a suppressed field recording, with roughly 188 lines of resolution...
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Post by Steven Sigel on Mar 10, 2012 2:21:11 GMT
Ah, I must have misunderstood what was meant by the following comment on the Restoration Team site. Means they're positive prints, not original negatives. No Kidding, that much is obvious - what I was referring to is this part :"and in poor condition"... Not sure why they said that...
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Post by dennywilson on Mar 10, 2012 5:46:01 GMT
There's a difference between deterioration and a print with some or all of the following - scratching,splices,broken sprockets,edited scenes or "worn" (Which sound like an episode or two of THE TIME MEDDLER might be classified as. )
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 10, 2012 7:40:57 GMT
Means they're positive prints, not original negatives. No Kidding, that much is obvious - what I was referring to is this part :"and in poor condition"... Not sure why they said that... Well you didn't say that part...
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