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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 12, 2021 13:34:18 GMT
Parts of Terror of the Autons on the new blu-ray boxset are stunning,so crystal clear and the actors all look so much younger because of it! However,I'm watching it on a 55 inch 4K television and some of the scenes,especially in the factory between Roger Delgado and Michael Wisher are still very unstable in the background image and the sound on the 5.1 surround sound option is still very noisy ( but this might just be deliberate background ambient sound produced for the serial-not sure ).But we're still very lucky that the BBC have gone to the trouble to further up-grade our favourite programme,and it has never looked better even after having to surmount all the technical problems associated with recovered B/W prints and their subsequent colour restoration and vid-fire.I for one am very grateful.
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Richard Develyn
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Living in hope that more missing episodes will come back to us.
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Post by Richard Develyn on Mar 12, 2021 13:49:50 GMT
Attachment DeletedHere's my man-cave plus pictures of purple bleed on Terror part 4. I have spent so many years watching TotA in various stages of terrible reproduction that, quite frankly, the purple bleed doesn't bother me all that much given where we are in comparison. To stick to the point of this original post, though - it could be better :-) Richard
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Post by tom rogers on Mar 12, 2021 15:09:55 GMT
My main set is 32" because there' only room for a TV in the corner of my lounge & a bigger one won't fit. If I get the chance to move somewhere bigger I buy a bigger TV, my wife as been asking about getting a larger one. A larger what? ππππ "He's going to be very popular" Igor
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 12, 2021 21:54:46 GMT
I stayed up till 4 am this morning watching Terror of the Auton's on my 2011 44 inch Samsung TV and it looks awesome even after the Sony Blue Ray Player converts it to NTSC or what ever it does. The only time I had a little bit of distraction was when they were filming from the top of the radio tower (the shots of Bessie and the Bus arriving at the research Center) had a little bit of blurred image at the top where the clouds were. Other wise it was perfect.
To give you an idea of how much better it was, I watched some of the extras that were ported over from the DVD version which had clips from the original VHS color release in side them. All I can say is how far we have come. I still have a nice high quality VHS copy sourced from the WTTW broadcast that I was given back in 1984 so I have always seen this story in color but this looks about as good as its going to get.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 12, 2021 22:48:36 GMT
I stayed up till 4 am this morning watching Terror of the Auton's on my 2011 44 inch Samsung TV and it looks awesome even after the Sony Blue Ray Player converts it to NTSC or what ever it does. The only time I had a little bit of distraction was when they were filming from the top of the radio tower (the shots of Bessie and the Bus arriving at the research Center) had a little bit of blurred image at the top where the clouds were. Other wise it was perfect. To give you an idea of how much better it was, I watched some of the extras that were ported over from the DVD version which had clips from the original VHS color release in side them. All I can say is how far we have come. I still have a nice high quality VHS copy sourced from the WTTW broadcast that I was given back in 1984 so I have always seen this story in color but this looks about as good as its going to get. Wow Robert,how much better is the blu-ray than your VHS copy?Is the video a true representation of the way it was originally transmitted or has the NTSC conversion downgraded it's original 625-line video look?
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 13, 2021 0:14:10 GMT
To me this Blue Ray DVD is much better than the VHS copy (which jammed in a VHS machine about 5 years ago). The Blue Ray is brighter especially the scenes set in the UNIT laboratory and Rex Farrell's office. Now the film sequences look about the same or perhaps a little bit better but the studio VTR is a big jump up in picture quality.
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Post by brianfretwell on Mar 13, 2021 17:34:33 GMT
I found it good enough not to notice the small amount of original colour 625 line VT in episode one, the "Hamfisted Bun vendor" sequence, until it was pointed out on another forum. This was watching on a DLP projector with a 4ft high picture.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 13, 2021 20:07:52 GMT
I found it good enough not to notice the small amount of original colour 625 line VT in episode one, the "Hamfisted Bun vendor" sequence, until it was pointed out on another forum. This was watching on a DLP projector with a 4ft high picture. Stunning.Blu-rays are perfect for projected images.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Mar 13, 2021 21:03:06 GMT
There's a short comparison video, highlighting a handful of shots I fixed for The Collection - Season 8, on YouTube.
The video isn't comprehensive. It just provides a flavour of the restoration work I undertook on some shots for The Daemons.
I did more than what's shown in this video, and other shots were completed by the talented Gavin Rymill, Anthony Lamb and Kieran Highman.
There were countless people involved in the restoration process. Everyone went above and beyond. I thought a short clip highlighting a couple of shots might be of interest.
I know the mods don't like direct links to YT on here, so please search: The Collection: Season 8: Daemons restoration examples.
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Post by John Wall on Mar 13, 2021 23:54:41 GMT
Itβd be interesting to have a full write up on whatβs been done beyond the previous work on Season Eight.
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 14, 2021 5:23:06 GMT
The wife and I just watched The Mind of Evil on our 11 year old Samsung NTSC HD TV connected to a modern converting Sony Blue Ray player and it looks great bar the odd small spot here or there. I then being curious watched it again on a modern 32 in LG multi system TV connected to an ancient 2009 Panasonic non converting Blue Ray player and it still looks great....
In short it looks great to this Dr. Who fan. Now I will say that when I get very close to the screen 18 inches or closer yes I can see lines and such in the picture but sitting in a chair at a reasonable distance from the screen in both a lighted and darkened room I cant find anything to go over to Galley Base and complain about.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 14, 2021 12:33:31 GMT
To me this Blue Ray DVD is much better than the VHS copy (which jammed in a VHS machine about 5 years ago). The Blue Ray is brighter especially the scenes set in the UNIT laboratory and Rex Farrell's office. Now the film sequences look about the same or perhaps a little bit better but the studio VTR is a big jump up in picture quality. Robert,did you ever consider forwarding your VHS copy to the Restoration Team for further enhancement of picture and colour enhancement?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 14, 2021 12:50:12 GMT
To me this Blue Ray DVD is much better than the VHS copy (which jammed in a VHS machine about 5 years ago). The Blue Ray is brighter especially the scenes set in the UNIT laboratory and Rex Farrell's office. Now the film sequences look about the same or perhaps a little bit better but the studio VTR is a big jump up in picture quality. Robert,did you ever consider forwarding your VHS copy to the Restoration Team for further enhancement of picture and colour enhancement? Of the WTTW broadcast?
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 14, 2021 20:21:28 GMT
No
They had a better copy any way. I was lucky enough at the time to be friends with a Chicago fan group who had access to the off air recording (or maybe one copy off the original maximum for Terror of the Autons) but the BBC had already taken a copy back in the day. I did let them take a copy off my 1st generation copy of The Daemons recording ages ago when they requested it to try and fill a small hole in there source recording but the quality of the copy I sent to them was not of sufficient quality to be helpful to them as I was told back then. This was before The Daemons came out on DVD. For the record this was an L-500 off air beta II tape that was recorded in Los Angeles off of KCET. It was not to be confused with the Ian Levine recording which was another recording entirely from the same broadcast.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 14, 2021 20:49:59 GMT
No They had a better copy any way. I was lucky enough at the time to be friends with a Chicago fan group who had access to the off air recording (or maybe one copy off the original maximum for Terror of the Autons) but the BBC had already taken a copy back in the day. I did let them take a copy off my 1st generation copy of The Daemons recording ages ago when they requested it to try and fill a small hole in there source recording but the quality of the copy I sent to them was not of sufficient quality to be helpful to them as I was told back then. This was before The Daemons came out on DVD. For the record this was an L-500 off air beta II tape that was recorded in Los Angeles off of KCET. It was not to be confused with the Ian Levine recording which was another recording entirely from the same broadcast. Thanks for reply Robert. Very interesting to know that the BBC were keen on your Daemons recording,even though it was never used.Do you still play your VHS or are they in safekeeping?They represent the last known transmissions of long lost colour copies...
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