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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 19:04:16 GMT
I once recited the first scene of Colin Bakers Doctor (Change my Dear) and the the Tennant fangirls were like WTF? Quite funny actually. Girls nearby? Reassure me please that you are a true Who fan by swearing on a first edition of The Making of Doctor Who that you were wearing an anorak with the hood up at the time. Oh yes. Complete with long scarf and hat.
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Post by Steve Hamilton on Jun 2, 2014 21:06:21 GMT
My personal feelngs are that 'New Who' is not 'better' or 'worse' than the Classic series, it's just 'different', which it needs to be for the modern audience. The worldwide appeal of the current series shows that it is what works even for the casual viewers who may dip in and out. On the back of this success are the sales of the Classic series to the Horror Channel and Retro TV among others which is also finding new audiences and this is no bad thing. My personal favourite era is the 60's. I love the feel of the show, the way companions come and go, the drama and the tears as well as the inventive story lines. Season 3 could easily be compared with many current plotlines for it's sheer diversity of scripts from Troy to Kembel to France and beyond! None of this however stops me from enjoying many aspects of the New series. It is still my favourite programme and always will be.
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Post by Charles Daniels on Jun 3, 2014 10:45:01 GMT
When I talk to most people about Doctor Who and they ask me what my favourite story is, I'll say "The Web of Fear". The normal response is "I don't know that one" What I have found is when people in TARDIS t-shirts ask me who my favourite Doctor is, and I say Patrick Troughton, I swear to god you can hear a pin drop. They have no clue what on earth I'm talking about. I usually throw in a "I really like David Tennant too" as sort of a life raft for them.
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Post by Marty Schultz on Jun 3, 2014 12:15:04 GMT
My personal feelngs are that 'New Who' is not 'better' or 'worse' than the Classic series, it's just 'different', which it needs to be for the modern audience. The worldwide appeal of the current series shows that it is what works even for the casual viewers who may dip in and out. Popularity or accessibility does not necessarily equate to a favourable critique of the nu series in my opinion. The current method of production grants the current Who team far longer than Classic Who to turn episodes around. Yet each week the scripts range from average to inept. The continual reiteration of deus ex machina, the misogynistic subtext and a lack of character motivation are more than valid criticisms of the current regime. The modern series blatantly creates a montage of 'cool' stuff yet fails to deliver on the basics of television - a good story. Classic Who literally couldn't afford to create vapid mashups of teen mag chic and CGI - it relied on creativity, story telling and aluminium foil. It wasn't perfect but it was what it was - a bunch of ripping yarns that took us somewhere else. That's not what I see on my TV now. I just see an actor in the TARDIS set on the cover of a magazine. Yet I tune in anyway.....
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Post by Simon Jailler on Jun 3, 2014 12:26:22 GMT
Great post Marty.
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Post by Simon Jailler on Jun 3, 2014 12:27:20 GMT
Great post Marty.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 3, 2014 13:27:59 GMT
Yes,that post was pretty sensational Simon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 14:11:55 GMT
When I talk to most people about Doctor Who and they ask me what my favourite story is, I'll say "The Web of Fear". The normal response is "I don't know that one" What I have found is when people in TARDIS t-shirts ask me who my favourite Doctor is, and I say Patrick Troughton, I swear to god you can hear a pin drop. They have no clue what on earth I'm talking about. I usually throw in a "I really like David Tennant too" as sort of a life raft for them. You are far too generous Charles. I usually take delight in watching them squirm when talking about a Doctor that is not David Tennant. But I usually say my favourite is William Hartnell. The look on their faces. How I feel for the young that haven't seen the first story and was captivated by the shot of a Dalek arm advancing on Barbera.
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Post by steven g on Jun 3, 2014 16:40:05 GMT
I always say that Doctor Who was a programme which for me started in 1963 and finished in 1989.
(Also I usually say that the TARDIS was a lot bigger with corridors and rooms in the original run than in the New Who run, because of all the stories I saw in New Who the TARDIS just has a console room.)
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Post by Paul G on Jun 3, 2014 18:11:04 GMT
The way I see it, if anyone gets joy out of any strain of Doctor Who then good for them. If through that they come to enjoy other strains of the show then so much the better.
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Post by Will Weller on Jun 4, 2014 6:10:21 GMT
When I talk to most people about Doctor Who and they ask me what my favourite story is, I'll say "The Web of Fear". The normal response is "I don't know that one" What I have found is when people in TARDIS t-shirts ask me who my favourite Doctor is, and I say Patrick Troughton, I swear to god you can hear a pin drop. They have no clue what on earth I'm talking about. I usually throw in a "I really like David Tennant too" as sort of a life raft for them. You should see the Tennant fan girl's faces when I mention William Hartnell, Charles!!!
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Post by Charles Daniels on Jun 4, 2014 6:28:05 GMT
The way I see it, if anyone gets joy out of any strain of Doctor Who then good for them. If through that they come to enjoy other strains of the show then so much the better. Yeah, Doctor Who has so many realms, just when I think I've got a handle on it, I discover a whole other branch I was somehow blissfully unaware of. I've met people who got into Doctor Who through the New Adventure novels, through the comics, through Big Finish, through repeats on UK Gold, through nu Who repeats on Watch, through a roleplaying game version of the show, and so on and so on, there are lots of different ways to get sucked into this strange world.
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Post by Richard Marple on Jun 4, 2014 11:32:49 GMT
I did watch it from 1982-9, then almost forgot about it until the early 1990s repeats on BBC2, then started to read the Target novels & went on from there....
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Post by stevehoare61 on Jun 4, 2014 13:23:14 GMT
Ive only had crap once because I preferred the original series and that was a few years ago, after I just started visiting Gallifrey Base. There was a similar thread to this and I made a simple comment about preferring the origional as being a lot older, that was when Who was Who for me. It was like being attacked by a gang of pre-pubescant schoolboys, with the vilest of mouths and I was actually quite taken back. In the real world, had someone spoken to me that way, they wouldnt speak to me again, ever. But it was quite worrying, that these obsessed, sad people who's balls hadnt even dropped, that had no idea of the old Who could be so viscious and narrow minded.You tend to expect better of the young. Its as clear as mud that you couldnt have the new without the old, so much of it leans back to it. As it happens, Ive loved Old Who and there have been many new stories that I have loved too...they both have their high and low points. I havent been at all keen on the direction the new show has taken recently but I believe its all change again, so lets hope.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 4, 2014 13:32:59 GMT
Ive only had crap once because I preferred the original series and that was a few years ago, after I just started visiting Gallifrey Base. There was a similar thread to this and I made a simple comment about preferring the origional as being a lot older, that was when Who was Who for me. It was like being attacked by a gang of pre-pubescant schoolboys, with the vilest of mouths and I was actually quite taken back. In the real world, had someone spoken to me that way, they wouldnt speak to me again, ever. But it was quite worrying, that these obsessed, sad people who's balls hadnt even dropped, that had no idea of the old Who could be so viscious and narrow minded.You tend to expect better of the young. Its as clear as mud that you couldnt have the new without the old, so much of it leans back to it. As it happens, Ive loved Old Who and there have been many new stories that I have loved too...they both have their high and low points. I havent been at all keen on the direction the new show has taken recently but I believe its all change again, so lets hope. A true Dr Who fan is fascinated by the series past as well as it's present...
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