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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 4, 2014 13:44:31 GMT
Ive only had crap once because I preferred the original series and that was a few years ago, after I just started visiting Gallifrey Base. There was a similar thread to this and I made a simple comment about preferring the origional as being a lot older, that was when Who was Who for me. It was like being attacked by a gang of pre-pubescant schoolboys, with the vilest of mouths and I was actually quite taken back. In the real world, had someone spoken to me that way, they wouldnt speak to me again, ever. But it was quite worrying, that these obsessed, sad people who's balls hadnt even dropped, that had no idea of the old Who could be so viscious and narrow minded.You tend to expect better of the young. Its as clear as mud that you couldnt have the new without the old, so much of it leans back to it. As it happens, Ive loved Old Who and there have been many new stories that I have loved too...they both have their high and low points. I havent been at all keen on the direction the new show has taken recently but I believe its all change again, so lets hope. A true Dr Who fan is fascinated by the series past as well as it's present... ...Grasshopper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 14:18:37 GMT
Thankfully some of those unpleasent fans left along with David Tennant. Out of my favourite new Doctors I would have to go with Matt Smith. His performance reminds me so much of the old Doctors and I loved the way he honoured Patrick Troughtons doctor by dressing like him. I don't mind David Tennant. He can be quite quirky at times but the way RTD turned him into a walking tragedy was a bit over the top. That plus the very cheesy series finals. (Can't stand Doomsday) Christopher Ecclestone deserves some credit though. But I am looking foward to Peter Capaldi. He is just what the show needs and some peoples reaction that he is too old to be the Doctor is just plain stupid and ignorance at its highest. There is too much obbsesion with "eye candy" these days. If that was present in 1963 I doubt that Doctor Who would have taken off as it did. Some fans need to get with the programme and they should stop trying to impose their standards on us all.
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Post by Marty Schultz on Jun 4, 2014 15:31:42 GMT
If nu Who ended now and we waited ten years to look back at it. What would current fans think? What would critics think? Overall - would it stand up against its 'genre' contemporaries such as the new BSG - Firefly - Walking Dead - or any well written modern drama? Has it pioneered method, modes or praxis? What has it contributed to literature and art? Did it tell good stories? I would suggest that in hindsight it's not going to get good marks in any of these categories. But as I said - I still watch it. I watch it because every now and then - like in the 50th special - we see a little bit of good drama that makes me forget about Akhatens ring and the crap dripping from it.
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Post by Simon Bannister on Jun 5, 2014 6:19:22 GMT
I got a bit of stick for liking Dr Who when I was in high school (about 14 years ago) but I just can't get into the Nu stuff. I've tried my best, but the story arcs, kissing, love interests and moments of sickening sentimentalism just ruin it for me. There are some episodes that I've watched again and think are good, but to me it's a different drama. And if I got massive stick on an internet forum from nobodies behind a computer screen, then I'd relish the chance to put these losers back into place. The internet brings out the absolute worse in people (apart from on here of course.... )
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Post by Paul G on Jun 5, 2014 7:10:01 GMT
I've had stick for liking certain periods of Classic Who, and not liking other periods of Classic Who. I've also had stick for having the nerve to enjoy some New Who.
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Post by Matthew Kurth on Jun 5, 2014 12:32:56 GMT
When I talk to most people about Doctor Who and they ask me what my favourite story is, I'll say "The Web of Fear". The normal response is "I don't know that one" Or else the response is, "Ohhhh, that was one of the ones with the first guy who was only there for one year, right? I didn't like him."
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Post by Will Weller on Jun 5, 2014 16:16:46 GMT
When I talk to most people about Doctor Who and they ask me what my favourite story is, I'll say "The Web of Fear". The normal response is "I don't know that one" Or else the response is, "Ohhhh, that was one of the ones with the first guy who was only there for one year, right? I didn't like him." It's a real shame that some of the new series fan won't give the classic series a try... I've meet Tennant fan girls in the past who think Christopher Eccleston is the first Doctor! I didn't know weather to laugh or cry at the time!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 16:36:04 GMT
I've had stick for liking certain periods of Classic Who, and not liking other periods of Classic Who. I've also had stick for having the nerve to enjoy some New Who. Yeah same. I have had stick for liking Colin Baker. But the thing is he made such an impression on me as a kid that it is hard not to. And yes I like certain parts of the new series. (The Matt Smith era) But the thing is I just don't care what other people think. Doctor Who is big enough for us all and I think ALL of it has some good and not so good points.
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Post by garysrothwellx on Jun 5, 2014 17:54:18 GMT
To all, please feel free to use this re-buff in the face of anti-Classic Who idiots:
"Sure, I could stop watching it, but you'll always be an arse."
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jun 5, 2014 19:35:15 GMT
The 2 shows are not the same at all really ! So there will always be differing opinions with the two ! I sort of stopped watching after season 22. Just went down hill for me. But others like it. Thats good, it gives us something to talk about
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Post by darcysmart on Jun 6, 2014 5:03:44 GMT
I call of quits at season 13, aside from a few really good stories. It just lost its magic for me.
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Post by M J Fouldes on Jun 6, 2014 8:55:52 GMT
I've never received any complaints or hassle for loving any Doctor Who. I love the classic AND the new stuff pretty equally. I still get very excited by the new series (even as I hurtle towards 40!).
There's odd episodes of newer Who I don't like but then I can say that about old Who as well!
I'm just happy after many non-Who years we have this love for the show again -plus it revived MY interest in the older shows and got me buying the old serials - most of which I'd never seen (I started with Tom's final season as a child and watched until the end. I think the only older Who I saw was the 90's repeat of The Dæmons)
Cheers MJ
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Post by lousingh on Jun 8, 2014 21:12:39 GMT
I get it every now and then over here. Maybe it's because it's "in" currently in the US.
I actually don't care what others think; I was just trying to get a feeling for how prevalent this silly attitude is.
Some new fans can't believe I strenuously object to shipping. I actually don't mind romance much (heck, I've been wondering for years why we haven't seen a pair of companions fall in love), but I mind the "meant to be" mentality that, say, the Doctor-Rose thing had. Indeed, IMHO, Doctor Who should take these tropes and turn them on their ears. I would have loved a "Doctor-Lite" episode after Rose got trapped in the alternate universe where her friends and family are telling her to stop pining for the Doctor, grow up, and move on. It's one of the few series that can get away with something that so plays against TV conventions; it should have availed itself of the opportunity to do so.
One thing that many new fans can't understand is that I detest the lack of well-developed ALIEN planets and species. The original series used to give little snippets of alien cultures, technologies, races, etc. that could be very interesting. (In particular, I loved how Malcolm Hulke did these.) I miss that sense of seeing the universe on screen.
Another point of contention is that many don't understand how I could like a story that I can't watch in one sitting and/or is more than a couple of episodes long. Others can't understand that I don't mind that the Vardans were guys wrapped in tinfoil and badly superimposed upon the screen. Part of the fun was that you had to overlook the obvious production shortcomings and think about the stories that were on. I guess I am too old to have their lack of patience.
I actually like the new series, but I miss the depth and development that the longer stories of seasons past could bring you.
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Post by Matthew Kurth on Jun 12, 2014 12:59:17 GMT
I would have loved a "Doctor-Lite" episode after Rose got trapped in the alternate universe where her friends and family are telling her to stop pining for the Doctor, grow up, and move on. It's one of the few series that can get away with something that so plays against TV conventions; it should have availed itself of the opportunity to do so. Wasn't going to happen with RTD at the helm. His vision of the show was very much one big Mary Sue fanfic, with Davies as the companion, not the Doctor. What your propose would have been way too close to psychotherapy.
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Post by Ross Mann on Jun 12, 2014 21:55:52 GMT
Bahahaha!!!! I like to tell these new who fans, that 'I've been into it since before it was cool' lol.. And being 6'4" there aren't a lot of people out there who'll gimme crap about anything... To my face lol.. Except the wife and kids that is... It's a beautiful life!!! Lmao!!!!
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