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Post by williammcgregor on Jun 24, 2015 10:00:04 GMT
Hi Ray,
Regarding the "I'm A Man" promo it was mentioned in part of an 11/02/67 NME interview with Spencer Davis and his manager Chris Blackwell over an Italian meal a week after the film was shown on Top of the Pops.
Mr Blackwell had this to say..."To begin with,anyone making a film for TV of a pop group loses money. What we gain is time. For example the film shown on last week's "Top of the Pops" shot for us by the Indian gentleman who takes all the photographs of my groups - Vic Singh - will be shown all over the continent. This means that whereas it might have been necessary for a TV promotion - involving air fares,travelling expenses, etc - we can now stay in Britain."
Spencer Davis continued enthusiastically over his glass of wine..."Since the decline of Dave Clark the industry seems to have got cold feet over presenting pop - all the producers are worried about the budget. Now every group I know is sick of appearing on the box holding onto their instruments like garden rakes and opening and shutting their mouths like goldfish. The answer is to do it yourself - we can put our own ideas into practice with our own cameraman and director.
so there you are Spencer Davis arguably one of the pioneers of the new promo film era?
p.s. the film was edited by Keith Green of the BBC.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 24, 2015 10:13:16 GMT
Hi Ray, Regarding the "I'm A Man" promo it was mentioned in part of an 11/02/67 NME interview with Spencer Davis and his manager Chris Blackwell over an Italian meal a week after the film was shown on Top of the Pops.Mr Blackwell had this to say... "To begin with,anyone making a film for TV of a pop group loses money. What we gain is time. For example the film shown on last week's "Top of the Pops" shot for us by the Indian gentleman who takes all the photographs of my groups - Vic Singh - will be shown all over the continent. This means that whereas it might have been necessary for a TV promotion - involving air fares,travelling expenses, etc - we can now stay in Britain."
Spencer Davis continued enthusiastically over his glass of wine..."Since the decline of Dave Clark the industry seems to have got cold feet over presenting pop - all the producers are worried about the budget. Now every group I know is sick of appearing on the box holding onto their instruments like garden rakes and opening and shutting their mouths like goldfish. The answer is to do it yourself - we can put our own ideas into practice with our own cameraman and director. so there you are Spencer Davis arguably one of the pioneers of the new promo film era? I don't know about that.... The miming 'ban' had come in in late June 66, and this caused a problem in regard to promotional films. One could no longer lip-synch on even a promotional film to a record. Therefore, images of a singer or a band - or anything - over their chart record would occur; bear in mind that the BBC had shown imagery over records on TOTP even as early as 1964, if the singer was unavailable, although this was not a regular occurrence. As long as they didn't mime their vocals (or indeed instruments), that was fine. The films to Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever, shot in early 1967, were perhaps more groundbreaking, and directed by Mr Whitehead. Nonetheless the 'pop promo' (without lip-synching) really took off in late '66. Good Vibrations (the 'fireman' film) is another early example. |
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Post by williammcgregor on Jun 24, 2015 11:12:17 GMT
I'd like to think that most forum members would agree about Strawberry Fields,Penny Lane,Good Vibrations being innovative (especially me being a great Beatles and Beach Boys fan) I just think it was refreshing to hear Spencer Davis talk in the way he did about groups being fed up with the pop TV situation in Feb '67. Maybe I should'nt have said one of the (pioneers) of the promo film era...maybe he was more akin to being (one of a group of exponents of the genre)
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Post by williammcgregor on Jun 25, 2015 8:52:49 GMT
Extracts from an article in DISC music paper dated 13th October 1973
Top of the Pops
John Fiddler
"We played the show a while back and when the camera zoomed up on me. I realised my flies were undone. I had to cover myself over with my guitar - until the camera went away. I thought - it pays to advertise, but this is ridiculous."
Bev Bevan
"I was playing drums and sucking an acid drop at the same time, when the camera zoomed up on me...just at that time I swallowed it whole and was choking like hell, but the camera just stayed on me. I almost passed out after the camera had gone away."
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Post by williammcgregor on Jun 30, 2015 19:45:03 GMT
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jul 1, 2015 8:41:30 GMT
Brilliant work William. My favourite newspaper extracts yet!
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Post by williammcgregor on Jul 8, 2015 11:01:55 GMT
Glad you liked the last Article Ray Here's another Melody Maker article, this time from the 9th June 1973 Fleetwood Mac were not happy with the BBC and Top of the Pops...   |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jul 8, 2015 11:41:09 GMT
""1-6-73: Presenter: Kenny Everett (Wiped)
(22) FIRST CHOICE – Armed And Extremely Dangerous (and charts)
(2) SUZI QUATRO – Can The Can
(NEW) T-REX – The Groover
(27) ELVIS PRESLEY – Polk Salad Annie (video)
(14) THE PARTRIDGE FAMILY starring DAVID CASSIDY – Walking In The Rain (danced to by Pan’s People) *
(20) STEALERS WHEEL – Stuck In The Middle With You *
(NEW) THE NEW SEEKERS – Goodbye Is Just Another Word
(17) FLEETWOOD MAC – Albatross (video)
(1) WIZZARD – See My Baby Jive ®
(13) 10cc – Rubber Bullets (crowd dancing) (and credits)
* although this show is wiped, these performances still exist""
wonder if the FM promo exists....
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jul 8, 2015 11:41:35 GMT
(it's highlighted in blue....they were a blues band....)
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Post by markjhaley on Jul 8, 2015 14:14:44 GMT
Great stuff William. Fascinating.
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Post by John Green on Jul 8, 2015 16:14:59 GMT
Extracts from an article in DISC music paper dated 13th October 1973"I was playing drums and sucking an acid drop at the same time, when the camera zoomed up on me...just at that time I swallowed it whole and was choking like hell, but the camera just stayed on me. I almost passed out after the camera had gone away." They really should have renamed the group. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YultdmUKi7E |
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Jul 11, 2015 9:00:16 GMT
Great stuff William. Fascinating.  Yes I agree. Thank you for posting William. |
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Post by williammcgregor on Jul 11, 2015 9:25:13 GMT
Thank you Mark and Tony
Hopefully there's more to come!
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Post by jerryg on Jul 13, 2015 19:12:40 GMT
Hi William ,I know I'm a bit late with the thanks but I've had no computer lately ,but many thanks mate for finding the great info out on pans people routines of hallelujah day and voodo Chile ,the info is very very much appreciated please keep up the good work.
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Post by williammcgregor on Jul 13, 2015 19:16:14 GMT
You're welcome Jerry, good to see you back!
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Yes I agree. Thank you for posting William.