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Post by John Wall on Dec 22, 2013 20:02:01 GMT
It's disappointing - although it doesn't belong here - that no one has mentioned the Steptoe with chroma dots in the documentary  Richard Russell got a credit at the end for the Colour Recovery. Oh, that is interesting! Was it restored footage, or the raw output? It was a short before/after clip, can't remember the episode but it's where Harold finds Albert having a shower and sings "Happy Birthday" as he only has a wash on his birthday !, where the colour looked to have been graded and was pretty good. Looks like some of the colour Steptoes that only exist as TRs could be recoloured  |
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Post by malcolmostlere on Dec 22, 2013 20:13:19 GMT
You clearly heard what you wanted not what was actually said... I'm the only person here who posted it within minutes of hearing it. Well rather than post, I was discussing in the first five minutes of the break what was said with the other person i was attending with. We both agreed that the jist of what was said was many, many, possibly thousands, possibly as much as ten thousand , neither of us recall hearing the word "hundreds" being said at all. If your right, and we are wrong , fair enough , but if you are wrong you will have the destiniction of being wrong first. Whereas if we are wrong then we will have many many others for company. So far I have not spotted anyone except you who actually attended, and did not hear "ten thousand". |
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Post by David Buck on Dec 22, 2013 20:17:01 GMT
Oh, that is interesting! Was it restored footage, or the raw output? It was a short before/after clip, can't remember the episode but it's where Harold finds Albert having a shower and sings "Happy Birthday" as he only has a wash on his birthday !, where the colour looked to have been graded and was pretty good. Looks like some of the colour Steptoes that only exist as TRs could be recoloured although sadly that is the only colour steptoe to survive as a film recording - and even then it only runs something like 17 minutes - cutting out not long after that sequence IIRC - what survives was shown in B&W at the Raiders event at BAFTA; the remainder of the lost colour steptoes are from domestic vt source |
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Post by spcowen on Dec 22, 2013 20:18:16 GMT
I'm the only person here who posted it within minutes of hearing it. Well rather than post, I was discussing in the first five minutes of the break what was said with the other person i was attending with. We both agreed that the jist of what was said was many, many, possibly thousands, possibly as much as ten thousand , neither of us recall hearing the word "hundreds" being said at all. If your right, and we are wrong , fair enough , but if you are wrong you will have the destiniction of being wrong first. Whereas if we are wrong then we will have many many others for company. So far I have not spotted anyone except you who actually attended, and did not hear "ten thousand". I agree with you Malcolm, but probably best to let it lie. Been too much negativity and squabbles to last us well into the New Year! |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Dec 22, 2013 21:10:58 GMT
I'm not sure if anyone is still around who would know the answers to this but what sort of programming can we expect to have returned from Africa? I would have thought that foreign stations would only be interested in entertainment and drama productions and that the detritus from this end would be filtered out.Sports programming would be out of date by the time it reached foreign shores. Visit the BroaDWcast site ( HERE) and click on any one of the country profiles; the newspaper clippings from the various Africa newspapers presented give you flavour of the sorts of programmes being aired in those countries at the time that Doctor Who screened - i.e. lots of American and ITV product but very little in the way of BBC material... |
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Post by John Wall on Dec 22, 2013 21:16:49 GMT
Perhaps PM might recover some missing ITV material ?
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Post by Peter Ledwith on Dec 22, 2013 21:31:27 GMT
You clearly heard what you wanted not what was actually said... I'm the only person here who posted it within minutes of hearing it. As you keep saying. Loads of others dont agree with you. You could have heard it wrong as you state others have. You can be quickly mistaken. I didnt hear it so Im waiting hopefully to hear it for myself. If i cant, then I will have to do what Ive had to do all along.....wait and see. |
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Post by Rich Hughes on Dec 22, 2013 21:31:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 22:01:04 GMT
It's disappointing - although it doesn't belong here - that no one has mentioned the Steptoe with chroma dots in the documentary. I did mention it. One of yesterday's highlights for me! Amazing colour recovery / VidFire on the clip seen. I'd just love to see all those early colour Steptoes in colour! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 23:37:44 GMT
so in short we what we can take from mbw is that they had a 20th anniversary  Hi. Can you post under a full real name please. Handles are not allowed on the forum. Thanks - Laurence |
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Post by Greg H on Dec 22, 2013 23:44:17 GMT
Perhaps PM might recover some missing ITV material ? ITV made some good shows back in the day; I can think of a few things I would be over the moon about if they resurfaced via the Africa connection |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 9:12:42 GMT
Perhaps PM might recover some missing ITV material ? ITV made some good shows back in the day; I can think of a few things I would be over the moon about if they resurfaced via the Africa connection Yep. Public Eye, Callan, Mystery & Imagination, Armchair Theatre, The Rat Catchers, The Informer, Haunted, Ready Steady Go, Crane, Freewheelers, Half Hour Story, No Hiding Place, Intrigue, Ace Of Wands, Out Of This World, Sexton Blake, Orlando etc. etc. All high on my list of most desired recoveries! |
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Post by Paul McDermott on Dec 23, 2013 9:25:32 GMT
Thanks for that Adam, I am grateful for the tally. I'm sure there are some elsewhere that only count the Who's, but returns are returns and Phil has done wonders.  May he continue to do so, in the days left for '13 and into the next - but remember to take a little time off, he's more than earned it!  I am looking forward to seeing the Basil Brush episode personally; the kinks were in their prime at that time and I am partial to Rodney Bewes as well, so that is a pretty cool find! the sky at night episode was pretty nice to have back as well. Both somewhat overshadowed by the web of fear, but then most things are in my humble opinion. I eagerly look forward to seeing what other nuggets of retro telly Phil Morris and company pull out of their top hat. Also, a great bonus imo is that Network DVD seem to have good relations with ITV's archive and so any noteworthy ITV material might be in for a DVD release sooner rather than later if anything does turn up BBC material can certainly linger in limbo for a bit longer, but then in the digital age there is no reason that lesser discoveries can't be put on line for viewing or on iTunes or similar I quite agree re Network, Greg - they really care about what they do, and it shows.  Looking forward to finally getting to see Regan and The Sweeney, for the first time, on BR. I think Camfield did some of the latter, didn't he?  |
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Post by johnforbes on Dec 23, 2013 10:08:03 GMT
ITV made some good shows back in the day; I can think of a few things I would be over the moon about if they resurfaced via the Africa connection Yep. Public Eye, Callan, Mystery & Imagination, Armchair Theatre, The Rat Catchers, The Informer, Haunted, Ready Steady Go, Crane, Freewheelers, Half Hour Story, No Hiding Place, Intrigue, Ace Of Wands, Out Of This World, Sexton Blake, Orlando etc. etc. All high on my list of most desired recoveries! Never heard of any of those never mind seen any of them. However .............. People, fans, board moderators (on other sites as well as this), site owners, Dr Who production staff et al, need to imo seriously consider stepping outside for a healthy dose of fresh air. I've been around various boards over the past number of months, seen mods (even some here) talk to people as if the mod is Dame Slap from the Magic Faraway Tree and 'posters' are naughty schoolkids. Plus seen mods press their 'I win' button to ban people then brag about doing so to the rest of the forum as if they are expecting a high five or a prize. Such attitudes by such people leave them with absolutely no respect and make them look as if they still need another decade before their proverbials begin to drop. Seen site owners (and I'm mainly looking @ DWA here) consistently post absolute rubbish after absolute rubbish with no meaning, sense or shred of evidence, primarily to one would assume just boost their hit count (and possibly revenue). But which has the knockon effect of bringing false hope and more squabbles, claims and counter claims. Seen fans bicker and bicker between what they think they heard a person say and what the person actually said. Been made aware that producers deliberately insert false hopes into segments, MP tin in the MBW doc. Seriously, wtf were they thinking ? Seen claim, counter claim and denial then followed by announcements. Seen major people who really should know better by now, have arguments on social media feeds that make them look as if they are all old women in a Russian post office queue squabbling over who was in line first. PM himself, while the boy done good as the expression goes. He doesn't really do anything to calm fires or frenzies down. Since in most cases, what is on the tin is what is in the tin, how long does it need to say "this this this and this can has been recovered, it may contain what is stated, it may not, and it may or may not be recoverable at this point in time with current technology" ? 10k tins ? Could probably do an inventory in a couple of weeks. None of it at all may be recoverable, but at least people know one way or the other if x has been located or not. Seen production staff deliberately leave out old Doctor's from a 50th anniversary special. But without those old Doctors they wouldn't have their current jobs now !! Comes across as pettyness at the very least. Doctor Who has fared extremely well as regards recovering lost TV programming. However, people really need to put that into perspective. MANY programmes have little or nothing left. Indeed, the programmes (inc Doctor Who) were deemed to have so little value either commerical or historic, that they were thrown away/destroyed at the time. Compare that to entire great civilizations in human history who have barely even a record that they existed at all. Doctor Who, with its mainly dodgy sets and people dressed in monster outfits, is a mainly childrens programme. Indeed, that was its target audience. As children, we are more easily impressed and pleased than we are as adults. How many of us have ever gone back and watched some of the programmes from their youth that they thought were great at the time and now think were absolute dross ? I have, and it's natural to think so and see them for what they are. Doctor Who is no different in that respect. Whether you have seen the lost episodes originally or not, you are looking from the perspective of how much you enjoyed them at a time when programming, and indeed the world, was a simpler less discerning place. If the 'lost' episodes turned up now, you may very well be disappointed watching them a second time around as an adult (almost pensioner) than child. But really, it's time that all the rumours, arguments, pettyness etc was pushed to the side, perspectives taken and that people act their real ages for a change. |
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Post by Greg H on Dec 23, 2013 10:13:41 GMT
ITV made some good shows back in the day; I can think of a few things I would be over the moon about if they resurfaced via the Africa connection Yep. Public Eye, Callan, Mystery & Imagination, Armchair Theatre, The Rat Catchers, The Informer, Haunted, Ready Steady Go, Crane, Freewheelers, Half Hour Story, No Hiding Place, Intrigue, Ace Of Wands, Out Of This World, Sexton Blake, Orlando etc. etc. All high on my list of most desired recoveries! I wouldn't say no to any of those! There's a couple I am not terribly familiar with. I wonder which were sold to Africa? AIUI paperwork can be somewhat scant! I think given unlimited superpowers my top choices would be mystery and imagination, ace of wands, Haunted and Armchair Theatre. Hopefully if there is anything it won't have turned to mush! |
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