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Post by mikeberke on Aug 29, 2013 0:52:32 GMT
Funny, I hadn't been on in a looong while and one night before I bed I checked and there was nothing really going on. I socially aware up the next morning and the news broke about the 2 eps recovery.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Aug 29, 2013 6:07:50 GMT
However,this requires say,photographic evidence ( for which we have not one jot ),the details of suppliers ( who have vigorously denied any form of supply )and the unalterable fact that the information is still only heresay and that the individual in question has every right to ignore the question!Unless he is taken to task by his official office who then conducts an investigation and finds the accusations to be true,who gives a damn what the accusers say! Depends on what level of proof. We're simply talking "bloody obvious" here, not "criminal conviction". If there's not something further still going on - whatever it is - I'd think we'd know where 2 episodes of "The Sky at Night" were found, and why there was their some belief that a colour copy of Mind of Evil may exist, after those working on the recolourization suspended their work. There's been some rather odd questions of late that have been ignored time, and time again. (though I can't even begin to fathom how Mind of Evil could relate ... perhaps that's a red herring). However,'bloody obvious',even when someone is keeping quiet over rumours is still only inference,not fact.When at the end of the day if all this turns out to be BS,people will turn round and say,well we read too much into the silences when really the reason why they were silent was because they had better things to do with their time! |
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Post by Dave Green on Aug 29, 2013 7:02:04 GMT
My only thoughts are that it does seem funny how the 'Africa progress' thread ground to a halt. I would have thought that in the search for Who more than an episode of Sky at Night would have turned up. Seems to have gone very quiet on the Africa front I agree, everything went very quiet very quickly on what was a very promising possibility for missing episodes. |
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Post by Dave Green on Aug 29, 2013 7:10:16 GMT
I think what would help all of us would be some kind of defcon level for likelihood of missing episodes being recovered. Just knowing that some kind to recovery is going on would put my mind at rest. It might put your mind at rest but any "yes we have found something" announcement would make the events of the last couple of months look like a spinsters tea party. The boards / forums / gossip sites etc would be overrun demands for information, evidence & clarification. No the correct thing to do is keep things absolutely buttoned up until an official announcement is made. Ive seen the fallout when folks think you are holding back on info. I admin on a well known satellite tv hobby forum and a few years ago (false) rumours were going round that Sky UK had been hacked. Our forum was absolutely swamped with demands for the secrets of how to get free tv. It all got quite nasty and all the dozen or so staff got throughly fed up with dealing with the chaos. Of course none of the freeloaders would believe there wasnt any free tv to be had, and we were accused of holding back and god knows what. Fair point! In the very least I agree with others that it would be nice to have more information after some of these avenues are proved true or false. At the end of the day, I'm a member on this forum for the sole reason that hopefully one day I might think of an idea that might help the relevant people locate some more missing material. Some of the ideas brought up on this forum have been truly inspiring and I would be very surprised if they hadn't helped the episode hunters in their quest for more episodes. Admittedly there have been daft ideas too, regardless there is never any feedback on any of these ideas. |
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Post by Daniel Hornby on Aug 29, 2013 8:08:02 GMT
It might put your mind at rest but any "yes we have found something" announcement would make the events of the last couple of months look like a spinsters tea party. The boards / forums / gossip sites etc would be overrun demands for information, evidence & clarification. No the correct thing to do is keep things absolutely buttoned up until an official announcement is made. Ive seen the fallout when folks think you are holding back on info. I admin on a well known satellite tv hobby forum and a few years ago (false) rumours were going round that Sky UK had been hacked. Our forum was absolutely swamped with demands for the secrets of how to get free tv. It all got quite nasty and all the dozen or so staff got throughly fed up with dealing with the chaos. Of course none of the freeloaders would believe there wasnt any free tv to be had, and we were accused of holding back and god knows what. Fair point! In the very least I agree with others that it would be nice to have more information after some of these avenues are proved true or false. At the end of the day, I'm a member on this forum for the sole reason that hopefully one day I might think of an idea that might help the relevant people locate some more missing material. Some of the ideas brought up on this forum have been truly inspiring and I would be very surprised if they hadn't helped the episode hunters in their quest for more episodes. Admittedly there have been daft ideas too, regardless there is never any feedback on any of these ideas. Some of the ideas have been batty, so "left-field" that they have no credibility whatsoever. However some of the ideas and questions posed have been entirely sensible, and none of these have been rubbished by anyone. The fact that only certain info has been "debunked" proves that there is more than meets the eye on this one. If someone has the time to write paragraphs defending a certain researcher or a substantial post on what turned out to be a complete misunderstanding from the author's point, why is there a lack of "There are still 106 missing episodes. None have been returned or are in the process of being returned"? Perhaps because whatever sceptics say, there is something that needs revealing at a later date. It's not Paul's job to do that and I'm sure he desperately wants to reveal the whole truth of this affair. But of course he cannot and he is as David Stead said stuck "between a rock and a hard place". I don't envy his position on this and I can't pretend that I would be able to deal with this as well as Paul has done. Obviously people want answers, given how long this saga has gone on for, and they'll come. All I know is that whatever people say now and up to the announcement, no-one will harbour ill-feeling towards Paul once the news is broken. I think even the most unsympathetic folks will reflect on the whole affair and agree that he's been put in an impossible position and thank him for his efforts, past and present (and maybe the future!) On a more positive note, I received The Ice Warriors yesterday, and although I haven't watched it yet, I did take a look at some of the extras and just skipped through parts of the episodes to scan the restoration work. It's bloody good by the way, a top job done by everyone, so thanks to Paul and everyone else involved with this. You gentlemen have produced the finest set of DVDs possible and mine and many others genuine thanks go to you all. It's been an amazing accomplishment when you look at the different releases as one large oeuvre of work, and for me there isn't a comparable project in film history. You should all feel extremely proud of the work done and the joy you've given regular buyers. Best wishes Dan |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 8:27:13 GMT
Viz top tip: My response to all the rumours which have been floating around since June is simply to walk away, get on with other things in my life in the meantime and wait for an announcement later in the year (if one is coming, that is)! I've found this works quite well!  "What do other readers think?" |
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Post by Ross Mann on Aug 29, 2013 10:54:20 GMT
Viz top tip: My response to all the rumours which have been floating around since June is simply to walk away, get on with other things in my life in the meantime and wait for an announcement later in the year (if one is coming, that is)! I've found this works quite well! "What do other readers think?" Laurence, couldn't have put it any better... |
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Post by Alan Jeffries on Aug 29, 2013 11:14:39 GMT
Best be careful Laurence, someone might construde your bracketed sentence as a backtrack and that you do know something that you're not telling us!
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I also agree, there is more to life.
Alan
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Post by tom smith on Aug 29, 2013 11:30:45 GMT
Viz top tip: My response to all the rumours which have been floating around since June is simply to walk away, get on with other things in my life in the meantime and wait for an announcement later in the year (if one is coming, that is)! I've found this works quite well! "What do other readers think?" I've said all along that I don't think anything had been returned so yes get on with our normal day lives,like paying the bills anything else with regards to Dr who is a bonus. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 12:23:52 GMT
Best be careful Laurence, someone might construde your bracketed sentence as a backtrack and that you do know something that you're not telling us! hehehe That was why I said if one is forthcoming - I don't know one way or the other. Nor do I have any categorical inside info as to whether or not any DW has been found. And I can say both of those things with hand on heart!  |
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Post by Andrew Haddow on Aug 29, 2013 13:48:25 GMT
There's a discussion on GB about which arm of the BBC would be in control of any recoveries. Would it be BBC Television? BBC Worldwide? Or is the DW production team in control, with the other BBC arms kept out of the loop? Who would be the person with the final say?
Even though I don't believe there have been ANY recoveries, it would be fascinating to learn about the chain of command.
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Post by Greg H on Aug 29, 2013 15:29:22 GMT
I have insider information that it is in fact the BBC costume department who have ultimate control of any recovered material |
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Post by Daniel Myers on Aug 29, 2013 16:24:46 GMT
Viz top tip: My response to all the rumours which have been floating around since June is simply to walk away, get on with other things in my life in the meantime and wait for an announcement later in the year (if one is coming, that is)! I've found this works quite well! "What do other readers think?" Laurence, couldn't have put it any better... That's my attitude. I do think there is enough indications suggesting several episodes have been returned. I do enjoy reading some of the discussion, but, otherwise, I am content to wait until we hear an official announcement. |
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Post by Ash Stewart on Aug 29, 2013 19:45:26 GMT
Viz top tip: My response to all the rumours which have been floating around since June is simply to walk away, get on with other things in my life in the meantime and wait for an announcement later in the year (if one is coming, that is)! I've found this works quite well! "What do other readers think?" This reader thinks that's quite a sensible approach. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 22:56:20 GMT
Totally agree with Mr Piper. Mulling over things just makes you despondent.
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