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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 12, 2013 16:31:39 GMT
More Five o'Clock Club show updates from the TV Times
18/1/66 Robb Storme, The Truth, The Exciters,The Mindbenders and Lulu
21/1/66 Jimmy Cliff, The Nashville Teens, Dodie West and The Morgan James Duo
22/7/66 Peter & Gordon
1966 list on page 1 of this thread now updated
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 15, 2013 16:38:58 GMT
* Five O'Clock Club UPDATES
22/12/64 Susan Maughan NORTHERN EDITION TV TIMES
25/12/64 Special Christmas Edition from Trafalger Square The Hollies, Millie, Brian Poole and The Tremeloes, Joy Strings, Christine Ching NORTHERN EDITION TV TIMES
1964 list on page 1 of this thread now updated
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 15, 2013 23:49:15 GMT
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Post by Alan Turrell on Nov 16, 2013 9:52:27 GMT
This looks very interesting William thanks for posting , I can't believe the amount of quite obscure musical acts especially from 63 and 64 were on Five o' Clock Club artists like The Innocents , The Aces, The Classmates etc these all released really good beat records I wonder what other tv shows these appeared on that no longer exist .I think the reason why so little footage of uk pop music exists from the late 50s and early 60s up to 63 is because so many of these variety or childrens tea time shows have gone ,they were the shows that had the musical guests of the time on there and it's so sad that virtually the whole lot has gone.Just look at the list of who was on this show alone, it's unbelievable really if like me your a lover of 60s pop music. I would have been sitting down having my tea when this was on southern itv , but the only show I can remember is the one with Janie Jones along with Ollie Beak and Fred Barker . |
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 16, 2013 11:12:56 GMT
This looks very interesting William thanks for posting , I can't believe the amount of quite obscure musical acts especially from 63 and 64 were on Five o' Clock Club artists like The Innocents , The Aces, The Classmates etc these all released really good beat records I wonder what other tv shows these appeared on that no longer exist .I think the reason why so little footage of uk pop music exists from the late 50s and early 60s up to 63 is because so many of these variety or childrens tea time shows have gone ,they were the shows that had the musical guests of the time on there and it's so sad that virtually the whole lot has gone.Just look at the list of who was on this show alone, it's unbelievable really if like me your a lover of 60s pop music. I would have been sitting down having my tea when this was on southern itv , but the only show I can remember is the one with Janie Jones along with Ollie Beak and Fred Barker . Hi Alan, It is incredible how many groups/solo artists were on 5 O'Clock Club. As you say it's a pity that the culture of groups appearing on 'Kids' TV seems to be a thing on the past? or am I wrong? I would'nt have seen 5 O'Clock Club in the 60's as it would'nt have been shown in Scotland. I had the One O'Clock Gang instead with Andy Stewart et al. I'll have a look and see if The Innocents,The Aces,The Classmates appeared on any other shows of the period? I like having projects you see.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 14:02:22 GMT
Yes, it's a real gap in our TV history that so many of the "pop culture" shows of the past just don't exist (and even if they do, are represented by just one or two editions). If it wasn't bad enough that the pure pop programmes such as TOTP and Thank Your Lucky Stars have vanished from the map, there's also all the other numerous programmes which accurately charted the times we lived through and were a regular part of daily life: The Beat Room, Gadzooks, A Whole Scene Going, Five O Clock Club, Come Here Often, Good Evening, Time For Blackburn, Twice A Fortnight, How It Is, Discs A Go Go, Lift Off, Dee Time etc. etc. etc. The list goes on and on and on. We've lost so much and at times it seems a truly depressing situation (and one which it seems that the mistakes of the past have still not been fully learned from with regard to archiving).
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 21, 2013 14:03:05 GMT
* FIVE O'CLOCK CLUB UPDATES
17/1/64 Bert Weedon, Danny Williams
28/1/64 Marty Wilde and the Aces
24/3/64 The Swinging Blue Jeans
26/6/64 The Other Two
31/8/64 Herman's Hermit's,Kay Garmer,(sic) Larry Parker
1964 list on page 1 of this thread now updated
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 21, 2013 16:49:43 GMT
* FIVE O'CLOCK CLUB UPDATES * PREVIOUS 1964 LIST UPDATED AS WELL* 4/9/64 Lesly Gore * UPDATE Robin Hall and Jimmy McGregor, The Voomins * 8/9/64 (see pictures below for guests on the show)   * 11/9/64 Barry Kent * 15/9/64 (see pictures below for guests on the show)  * 18/9/64 The Mudlarks,Christine Quaite,The Naturals * 21/9/64 Chris Barber, Ottilie Patterson, Carol Deene (sic) * 25/9/64 The Rustiks,Ria Bartok,The Clearways * 29/9/64 The Jones Boys,Kopy Kat(sic)John Halford * 2/10/64 Tammy St John,The Morgan-James Duo,The Band of Angels * 5/10/64 The Zombies,Pierre and Company,Lady Lee * 8/10/64 Barry St John,Pip and Roy,The Nutrons (sic) * 20/10/64 The Supremes,Bern Elliot and the Klan (sic) Bernard Hughes * 23/10/64 Dionne Warwick,The Laurie Jay Combo,Don,David and Dean
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Post by Alan Turrell on Nov 21, 2013 22:49:24 GMT
* FIVE O'CLOCK CLUB UPDATES * PREVIOUS 1964 LIST UPDATED AS WELL 17/1/64 Bert Weedon, Danny Williams 28/1/64 Marty Wilde and the Aces 24/3/64 The Swinging Blue Jeans 26/6/64 The Other Two 31/8/64 Herman's Hermit's,Kay Garmer,(sic) Larry Parker I wonder if Herman's Hermits performed their hit "Show Me Girl " on the 31/8/64 show, if they did this is one of the few Herman singles where I haven't seen any footage at all ,although it wasn't a hit until November 64 so it was probably to early great info William. |
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 21, 2013 23:17:17 GMT
* FIVE O'CLOCK CLUB UPDATES * PREVIOUS 1964 LIST UPDATED AS WELL 17/1/64 Bert Weedon, Danny Williams 28/1/64 Marty Wilde and the Aces 24/3/64 The Swinging Blue Jeans 26/6/64 The Other Two 31/8/64 Herman's Hermit's,Kay Garmer,(sic) Larry Parker I wonder if Herman's Hermits performed their hit "Show Me Girl " on the 31/8/64 show, if they did this is one of the few Herman singles where I haven't seen any footage at all ,although it wasn't a hit until November 64 so it was probably to early great info William. Hi Alan, I'll have a look at my collection of NME's and Melody Makers and see if I can get any info about Herman's Hermits singing "Show Me Girl" around about August 1964? In the meantime, I've just realised I've duplicated 5 O'Clock info already on this great website www.78rpm.co.uk/tvu.htm#5occI just got carried away with having access to a vast collection of TV Times and forgot that someone else had done the hard work!  |
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Post by Brian Denton on Nov 22, 2013 9:53:16 GMT
Interesting site, William.
Now, this is a really, really, stupid question. Please don't laugh, as I genuinely don't know the answer. Were programmes of the 50s (those which didn't go out live) shot to videotape (from what date?) for later transmission, or were they shot to film? If the latter, there would surely be more of them around as you can't reuse film and only requirements of storage space might be an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 11:06:20 GMT
Videotape didn't come in for the UK until around 1958. Anything pre-recorded before that time would have needed to be on film (even after that date for some time too, as it was still a luxury). By the early '60s, pre-recording to VT was more commonplace.
Prior to this time though, it wasn't common to record in advance (a few Hancocks were, for instance, which allowed them to survive) and film recording was used mainly to record a programme from the live transmission (e.g. Quatermass serials, 1984 etc.). Film was discarded though once it was used; not everything pre-recorded in this way from the time still exists.
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Post by Brian Denton on Nov 22, 2013 11:12:45 GMT
Videotape didn't come in for the UK until around 1958. Anything pre-recorded before that time would have needed to be on film (even after that date for some time as it was still a luxury). By the early '60s, pre-recording to VT was more commonplace. Prior to this time, not too many things were recorded in advance though (a few Hancocks were, for instance, which allowed them to survive) and film recording was used mainly to record items as they went out (e.g. Quatermass serials, 1984 etc.). Film was discarded though once it was used; not everything pre-recorded on to film from that time still exists. Thanks for the info Laurence. Wow, that's more appalling than wiping the tapes for economic reasons. Surely a home could have been found for them? |
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 22, 2013 11:54:31 GMT
Videotape didn't come in for the UK until around 1958. Anything pre-recorded before that time would have needed to be on film (even after that date for some time as it was still a luxury). By the early '60s, pre-recording to VT was more commonplace. Prior to this time, not too many things were recorded in advance though (a few Hancocks were, for instance, which allowed them to survive) and film recording was used mainly to record items as they went out (e.g. Quatermass serials, 1984 etc.). Film was discarded though once it was used; not everything pre-recorded on to film from that time still exists. Thanks for the info Laurence. Wow, that's more appalling than wiping the tapes for economic reasons. Surely a home could have been found for them? I agree with you Brian. We just can't seem to win, why did the TV stations discard film once it was used? it's not as if you can film over it again or is it? Did they not think of just keeping everything on film so that entire series could be shown again in a few years time? also surely space should'nt have been an issue as you could keep vast amounts of film somewhere in vaults easily? |
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Post by Alan Turrell on Nov 22, 2013 13:35:44 GMT
I wonder if Herman's Hermits performed their hit "Show Me Girl " on the 31/8/64 show, if they did this is one of the few Herman singles where I haven't seen any footage at all ,although it wasn't a hit until November 64 so it was probably to early great info William. Hi Alan, I'll have a look at my collection of NME's and Melody Makers and see if I can get any info about Herman's Hermits singing "Show Me Girl" around about August 1964? In the meantime, I've just realised I've duplicated 5 O'Clock info already on this great website www.78rpm.co.uk/tvu.htm#5occI just got carried away with having access to a vast collection of TV Times and forgot that someone else had done the hard work! Hi William , much appreciated. |
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