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Post by RWels on Oct 1, 2013 1:14:11 GMT
Thanks R. Amazon are currently showing that CAUHB is "frequently bought (i.e. ordered) with Cilla's Comedy Six and Cilla's World of Comedy. Something to ponder on.I hate to call a website a liar... Hasn't it been available for pre-order for some time? Anyway, I never pay close attention to suggestions, or technical details for that matter. Or reviews - often (but not here obviously) they lift them from previous editions. I'm going to guess that they did not find a totally new episode, but merely the 1st one as transmitted, or something else they managed to restore. If they had, they would have said more than just plain "exciting".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 12:49:15 GMT
Would they though? Perhaps they're keeping it as a surprise. I won't be holding my breath but it would be nice if something new had turned up. By the way, the first episode as transmitted has existed (on t/r) all along, hasn't it?
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Post by RWels on Oct 1, 2013 19:23:22 GMT
Would they though? Perhaps they're keeping it as a surprise. I won't be holding my breath but it would be nice if something new had turned up. By the way, the first episode as transmitted has existed (on t/r) all along, hasn't it? Yes, but I got the feeling it was overlooked. Also, it needs audio restoration; and the first minute or so is missing, but that can be reconstructed convincingly with the help of the filmed footage and clever use of the break and end credits, as a fan edit has already proven.
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Post by RWels on Nov 17, 2013 0:29:20 GMT
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Post by John Green on Nov 17, 2013 10:45:34 GMT
BluRay. Should have seen that coming. They're certainly doing a lot of work on it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 10:47:21 GMT
Wonderful! I'm looking forward to this release greatly - even more so now.
To strike a sombre note though, the sadness to me in all this is that while recovered archive material such as this is being welcomed back through the front door (and restored / released by companies like Network, who are prepared to go the extra mile), other stuff is quietly and casually being disposed of by the back door (e.g. the Freewheelers material mentioned in another thread, which we seem to have lost in comparatively recent times). A contradiction clearly exists regarding archive material.
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Post by John Green on Nov 17, 2013 10:53:45 GMT
Wonderful! I'm looking forward to this release greatly - even more so now. To strike a sombre note though, the sadness to me in all this is that while recovered archive material such as this is being welcomed back through the front door (and restored / released by companies like Network, who are prepared to go the extra mile), other stuff is quietly and casually being disposed of by the back door (e.g. the Freewheelers material mentioned in another thread, which we seem to have lost in comparatively recent times). A contradiction clearly exists regarding archive material. The difference of course,is that Python are Big. Come to that,wouldn't the Python shows have been lost if the team hadn't bought the U.S. rights?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 10:55:08 GMT
The difference of course,is that Python are Big. Quite. But what's big one day is tomorrow's obscurity. The forgotten needs to preserved just as much as the famous though as it can often be found to be just as good / significant / important (e.g. Where Was Spring or On The Margin). We don't need archives to be just full of popular and famous things as, to get a rounded view of the culture and the place of big hitters in context, you need to get the bigger picture.
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 18, 2013 15:45:35 GMT
What irks me is that this is getting the sort of treatment that Python itself should be getting, but isn't. I rue the day (whichever day it was) that Network ceased to be able to have access to BBC material...
On the plus side, this sets a very positive precedent - blu ray release of a SD programme with HD film inserts where possible. There are many things that Network should be applauded for, and this is definitely one.
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 18, 2013 19:13:11 GMT
Good point. I thought Network still had access to some BBC stuff. Has that gone too?
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Post by RWels on Nov 21, 2013 10:45:07 GMT
Pity, so they won't be able to include the "Battle of Hastings" bit from Twice a Fortnight that inspired the series.
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Post by markboulton on Nov 23, 2013 17:55:07 GMT
What irks me is that this is getting the sort of treatment that Python itself should be getting, but isn't. I rue the day (whichever day it was) that Network ceased to be able to have access to BBC material... On the plus side, this sets a very positive precedent - blu ray release of a SD programme with HD film inserts where possible. There are many things that Network should be applauded for, and this is definitely one. But then, Python (Monty) Pictures Ltd. own Flying Circus don't they - so if the remaining Pythons find themselves enjoying working with Network, you never know - perhaps they might do something else with them in the future? Mind you, fans have already bought more box-set versions of Flying Circus than they'll ever need, I'm sure. If only it had been left until it could be done really *right*.
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Post by RWels on Dec 26, 2013 22:08:14 GMT
But then, Python (Monty) Pictures Ltd. own Flying Circus don't they - so if the remaining Pythons find themselves enjoying working with Network, you never know - perhaps they might do something else with them in the future? Mind you, fans have already bought more box-set versions of Flying Circus than they'll ever need, I'm sure. If only it had been left until it could be done really *right*. Roger Saunders and John Goldstone thought it was good enough. Saunders apparently no longer works for them, but some time ago Goldstone emailed me. I wasn't going to criticise, but then he brought up the subject himself, and I mentioned a slight disappointment with the new 2008 masters / releases. He hasn't emailed since, even though I still have information he wants.
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 17, 2014 12:41:26 GMT
Call me picky, but combining SD video with HD film inserts is over-restoration, particularly if the video comes from a domestic format.
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Post by markboulton on Jan 19, 2014 19:38:58 GMT
Not really Sue. In fact, video from a domestic source will look so much better on a HD source because of the compression algorithms used.
If only DVD and DVB-T had worked in the ability to act as a wrapper for H264 video data aswell as MPEG2, so that H264 could be used for SD aswell as HD content.
Often, SD material looks much better on digital TV on HD channels, but only because it's transmitted in H264 and not MPEG2 - so yes, the additional resolution is wasted, but the additional *detail* isn't. But since H264 never managed to make it as an SD transmission format, HD transmissions will always offer a big quality step-up for SD material.
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