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Post by garyjordanbrum on Feb 17, 2012 22:47:34 GMT
BOYBANDS!!!!!! same old same old were the village people a boyband just because they were 5 males suppose in the eyes of the BBC any group of all male members makes them a bleedin boy band they'll probably try and class the real thing as a boyband, somebody at the BBC needs a bleedin music history lesson, this programme gets worse, when will the BBC get it's act together with TOTP2, maybe if a few more people on here actually complained direct we might get some proper research production and footage. Better still mr BBC employ a few off this forum on the programme and we'll show you how it should be done. Thank god flares is open on a saturday night that's where I'll be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2012 2:06:46 GMT
BOYBANDS!!!!!! same old same old were the village people a boyband just because they were 5 males suppose in the eyes of the BBC any group of all male members makes them a bleedin boy band they'll probably try and class the real thing as a boyband, somebody at the BBC needs a bleedin music history lesson, this programme gets worse, when will the BBC get it's act together with TOTP2, maybe if a few more people on here actually complained direct we might get some proper research production and footage. Better still mr BBC employ a few off this forum on the programme and we'll show you how it should be done. Thank god flares is open on a saturday night that's where I'll be. I see you're complaining yet again even before the show has aired. Did you actually watch the last TOTP2? They broadcast the Walker Brothers performance, the first time it had been seen since 1966. No doubt it didn't interest you because it wasn't Slade. Give them a break, you got 'Gypsy Road Hog' and we're getting a vintage TOTP every week on BBC4. Yet all you can do is complain. |
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Post by nicadare on Feb 18, 2012 10:14:45 GMT
BOYBANDS!!!!!! same old same old were the village people a boyband just because they were 5 males suppose in the eyes of the BBC any group of all male members makes them a bleedin boy band they'll probably try and class the real thing as a boyband, somebody at the BBC needs a bleedin music history lesson, this programme gets worse, when will the BBC get it's act together with TOTP2, maybe if a few more people on here actually complained direct we might get some proper research production and footage. Better still mr BBC employ a few off this forum on the programme and we'll show you how it should be done. Thank god flares is open on a saturday night that's where I'll be. I see you're complaining yet again even before the show has aired. Did you actually watch the last TOTP2? They broadcast the Walker Brothers performance, the first time it had been seen since 1966. No doubt it didn't interest you because it wasn't Slade. Give them a break, you got 'Gypsy Road Hog' and we're getting a vintage TOTP every week on BBC4. Yet all you can do is complain. Quite right, let's see the programme first before complaining, perhaps they will show this boy band ;D 16-6-66: Presenter: Pete Murray THE BEATLES – Paperback Writer The Walker Brothers 1966 TOTP clip can be seen here: >>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjKs7zZCwH4 |
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Feb 18, 2012 12:22:43 GMT
I'm a big Fan of the Fab Four, but I doubt it! :-( About 11/02/ 2012:  (I'd like this to be repeated!) |
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Feb 18, 2012 14:42:18 GMT
You assume quite a lot about me, of course I saw the walker brothers clip about bleedin time TOTP2 showed sommat different as already stated in another post 90% of footage used on the 3 editions had already been seen before. Yeah I'm a big Slade nut but doesn't mean to say I demand to see Slade on every edition of TOTP2 (I have ALL Slade BBC material anyway, except the 2 coz I luv you TOTP) some of it has never been seen on shows like TOTP2. I am certainly not interested in "boybands" and the BBC's definition of what a boyband is, the village people the four tops etc etc is absolutely hilarious. certainly not interested in seeing rock n robin crazy horses bye bye baby wake me up before you go go true is there something I should know let alone boyzone westlife take that etc etc for the humpteenth time it's all so predictable. You might wanna sit there for 90 minutes "being entertained" (perhaps being bored stiff would be a better description) I'll be out women on me arms dancin the night away. You wait until you see what's coming up on BBC4 to celebrate the 10th birthday DISCO bloody riveting stuff yeah the bleedin 1979 disco championship clips AGAIN.
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Post by johnstewart on Feb 18, 2012 18:17:05 GMT
I've compiled a brief list of chart acts who've also appeared on my favourite music show OGWT who I would love to see on TOTP2. Colin Blunstone-14/12/71, Strawbs-20/2/73, Leo Sayer/Don Mclean-9/10/73, Gallagher & Lyle-6/11/73, Sutherland Brothers & Quiver-20/1/74, Cockney Rebel-10/2/74, Elton John-9/7/74 and Smokie 11/4/75 as far as I know these have never been repeated on British tv. Yes TOTP have been using other shows for material. I absolutely agree. The Blunstone OGWT think has several takes to choose from and the only surviving version of 'say you don't mind'. |
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Post by johnstewart on Feb 18, 2012 18:19:49 GMT
I just want to SEE the catalogue! Good point. I'd also like to see some of the actual clips. I wonder how much of a problem there is with orphaned clips which seem to be held by other sources. I.E. the Hendrix ones. Some of those are the type of thing I'd like to see cleaned up and shown as part of one big show or DVD release. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2012 17:29:52 GMT
Can we also ask the BBC to show the surving epidodes from the 60s till early 1976.That would be a real treat and to include the newly found 1973 edition?
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Post by Liam Joseph on Feb 19, 2012 19:42:36 GMT
Can we also ask the BBC to show the surving epidodes from the 60s till early 1976.That would be a real treat and to include the newly found 1973 edition? I heartily endorse this. If they can show all the 1976/77 programmes (which feature a fair bit of repetition of songs) it would be great to see all the existing 1964-75 ones in the archive. The more sporadic nature of what remains would mean less repetition. Come on BBC what have you got to lose? Cheap repeat telly that people would actually want to watch, judging by the fact that the TOTP 1964-75 show got BBC 4's highest ever Friday night audience. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2012 22:08:36 GMT
The 6/6/68 and 27/2/69 editions would not be repeatable as complete items as the DJ links are mainly mute (with the DJ in vision). All later editions would be possible though (even the ones with mute links as these did not feature the DJ in vision; one of which was repeated by UK Gold, in fact).
There might be many missing but between 1967 and 1975 there are also quite a lot of shows to be seen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2012 23:04:53 GMT
Unfortunately there are several more editions that are technically unbroadcastable as well.
15-10-70 and 14-1-71 have mute links with DJ in vision so can't be used.
What is the situation with 25-2-71? Is that a muted links edition too? Seen clips from it but definitely not the whole show.
30-12-71 is another muted links edition and worse, some songs are muted as well. I doubt the BBC would be bothered to dub on new audio in place.
Then there's the 22-6-72 edition which has the first two or three songs missing plus would need some restoration work to fix up the low band colour signal. So, that's at least 5 more shows that would never be broadcast again. Maybe the BBC could do a special compilation show featuring performances from all of those so at least we can get to see the cream of them.
Now, the one that UK Gold showed - 1-7-71. This one has mystified me and I'll explain why. We know the links are muted and that Jimmy Savile was hosting. We see him very briefly at the beginning and his face is covered up by some mask! Each song goes straight into the next, no audience noise or in vision links and with onscreen captions telling you who the acts are. The onscreen captions seems to be a format they were experimenting with in early to mid 1971 as seen in other shows. My big question is this - is what UK Gold showed exactly as the BBC have it in their archive, or are there other in-vision Jimmy links that were carefully edited out for that repeat? I just find it peculiar, given Jimmy's flamboyant nature that they would show a brief shot of him at the start and then not show him again for the rest of the show.
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Post by Pete Seaton on Feb 20, 2012 0:00:06 GMT
its actually 1hr. and weve had a boyband TOTP2 before.
I tend to think the BBC should have an amnesty and allow found footage to be returned and broadcast as it exists. and to broadcast anything in the BBC archives as it survives, even with a sorry for the poor picture/sound message at the beginning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 9:04:42 GMT
Any shows that are broadcastable ie complete editions would be great.The ratings would be really high as these eraly editions ie early 70s would be very popular.If Festival channel can show them why not BBC?
Does anyone know why they never showed from the beginning of 1976? i know some are missing and i do have a good quality copy on dvd of the 8/1/76 iam puzzled?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 20, 2012 9:12:26 GMT
What would be good - this is a bit O/T - is not only raid the TOTP archives, having a season of TOTP - Rare and Discovered, but also have a showing of excerpts from entertainment shows that featured pop/rock acts, like SwapShop, CPP, Cilla, Lulu and Cliff Richard shows, and many many more....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 9:18:07 GMT
Unfortunately there are several more editions that are technically unbroadcastable as well. 15-10-70 and 14-1-71 have mute links with DJ in vision so can't be used. Ah yes, i'd forgotten about those! To be honest though, as Pete says, too much apologising or amending is undertaken with regard to vintage repeats. If something exists in a depleted form, it should just be explained and then shown regardless, if it's that or nothing! The recent BBC-4 jazz weekend had a Sonny Rollins 1974 concert at Ronnie Scott's reassembled from two sources, with the programme cutting from b/w to colour at random throughout! If that's considered acceptable (and it's fine by me) then I don't reckon that the occasional mute DJ link on TOTP is any worse. 1/7/71 edition: that's an odd one. It looks to me like they experimented with a different format briefly whereby the links (out of vision) were voiced by the DJ live over studio / band shots with a title on screen. It seems that the edition was pre-recorded hence the live sound links were not on the master tape. |
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