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Post by sam on Jun 26, 2005 16:28:33 GMT
The only reason we don't have more recoveries is because the owners of the lost cans are unaware of their value. With the new series of Dr. Who out, it would be the ideal time for the archive to ask for the return of the mssing episode. Just a footnote after the main feature, I bet something would turn up
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Post by Steven Sigel on Jun 26, 2005 16:31:41 GMT
It's certainly possible that there are prints in private hands, but there's no evidence that suggests that there really are any - it's just speculation on various people's part.
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Post by William Martin on Jun 27, 2005 16:49:37 GMT
quite right, however some people in the past have known about subsequently recovered material but were unable to speak out at the time, a paraniod fantasy
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Post by Richard Molesworth on Jun 27, 2005 18:55:31 GMT
>however some people in the past have known about subsequently recovered material but were unable to speak out at the time, a paraniod fantasy<
Really?? Care to eloborate!
Richard
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Jul 24, 2005 9:47:19 GMT
<<epidoes>> do you have flu ?? The only reason we don't have more recoveries is because the owners of the lost cans are unaware of their value. With the new series of Dr. Who out, it would be the ideal time for the archive to ask for the return of the mssing episode. Just a footnote after the main feature, I bet something would turn up
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Post by Steve Walsh on Jul 25, 2005 20:52:56 GMT
Hi all, I have just been reading a number of sources, even threads in this forum and it 16mm film prints of even existing Dr Who are very rare - then how likely is it that any collectors are going to have a lost one? I hate to sound pesimistic (think that's how you spell it) but the only way that I think it might be likely that missing episodes exist are abroad in TV stations - even then, why should they return them (in their minds)? as the BBC chucked them years ago. Please somebody tell me how likely as I have just lost hope! Matt Hi Matt, I don't post here often now due to some idiots who shall remain nameless who use this forum, but I felt I ought to comment on your post. Firstly, SOMEONE IN THE WORLD IS GOING TO FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR WHO <Neil Lambesses, the missing years documentary> That statement made me feel really fired up , that there are still passionte people out there that haven't given up. Secondly, Don't loose hope Matt, there probally are more out there. Untill every single house, every person and country has been asked, there will be always the possibility, however slim. On the other hand the next one could be right under our noses, and fan negativity and ignorence could keep it from finding its way back. The Lion was offered for sale on the net, i belive a year before its new zealeand discovery, no one spotted it and probally woulden't have belived it either. Again DMP 2 was stored in the archives of a university Frnacis Watson attended through most of the 80's untill he returned for the film, when the empty can was discovered, nobody bothered to check who it belonged to, if they had it would have led to Francis and DMP 2 found a decade earlier. I have searched for many years for lost material, although I have not been succesful, my efforts have produced many answered questions. Due to a lot of hostility I have ceased my quest for lost material, the rudeness and personal attacks and the constant nit picking of every idea or lead I had made it not worth it in the end. Anyway Chin up Matt, who knows the man next door may have the next missing episode. Regards
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Post by Stephen Neve on Jul 25, 2005 21:01:01 GMT
Apolgies for posting under the name Steve Walsh, its a name use to post on the RT forum, its a nickmae my friends call me and I use it on forum where you don't have to use your real name, thought I had better clear this up before someone makes a big deal out of it. Regards
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 25, 2005 21:26:15 GMT
The Lion was offered for sale on the net, i belive a year before its new zealeand discovery, no one spotted it and probally woulden't have belived it either. That's incorrect. Bruce Grenville, who owned The Lion at the time, had it listed on his web-page as one of the films he had in his collection. He only put it online 5 or so months before the recovery. He had no intention of selling it - at least not until fans told him of its uniqueness! Jon Preddle
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Post by LanceM on Jul 27, 2005 16:39:34 GMT
I was just wondering if other film collectors list thier collections online ? Has this avenue been thoroughly investigated in NZ and other countries? And for those such stories such as the Macra Terror and Abominable Snowmen existing in NZ, is this possible? Or extremely unlikely that the prints still exist somewhere?
Thanks, Lance.
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Post by William Martin on Jul 27, 2005 17:15:20 GMT
don't loose hope if there are any still out there you'll need it to find them.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Jul 27, 2005 17:18:21 GMT
I was just wondering if other film collectors list thier collections online ?. Some do, yes. I've certainly seen lists online; never seen anything interesting, though. Certainly not a missing Underwater Menace...
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Post by william M on Jul 27, 2005 17:35:31 GMT
Unfortunatly most of the older ones with the bigest collections don't, and they are probably the most likely to have something and the least likely to know that its valuable.
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Post by Wright Blan on Jul 27, 2005 17:50:25 GMT
Unfortunatly most of the older ones with the bigest collections don't, and they are probably the most likely to have something and the least likely to know that its valuable. I'm always amazed about how that could happen. Wouldn't those with the bigger collections have come kind of catalogue system to keep track of their collection. It would seem like film collecting would need a lot of maintenance to preserve the collection, and that would require proper record keeping.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 27, 2005 20:59:54 GMT
Unfortunatly most of the older ones with the bigest collections don't, and they are probably the most likely to have something and the least likely to know that its valuable. I recently visited an elderly film collector who had a small but modest collection of documentary films. Some were ex-NZBC films still in their original NZBC cans. As he went through the pile he said things like "I forgot I had that..." so there are many collectors out there who have material they don't know they have. They don't have written catalogues, let alone ones online! I once did a google.co.nz search on a number of missing Hartnell episode titles to see if I could find a private catalogue on line, but I gave up as there were thousands of pages to plough through... Jon Preddle
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Post by Steven Sigel on Jul 27, 2005 21:11:57 GMT
Unfortunatly most of the older ones with the bigest collections don't, and they are probably the most likely to have something and the least likely to know that its valuable. I'm always amazed about how that could happen. Wouldn't those with the bigger collections have come kind of catalogue system to keep track of their collection. It would seem like film collecting would need a lot of maintenance to preserve the collection, and that would require proper record keeping. Hardly -- Most film collectors have so much stuff that it's nearly impossible to keep track of it all... I constantly find stuff that I completly forgot about - or didn't even know I had (for instance something that came in a big collection I bought)...
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